Ep. 26: Our Required Android App List

A phone with -- soul of the tablet Google TV while. And my required applicants all that more -- up on this week's edition of Internet analyst weekly for Thursday December 2 twenty and I'm just Mac cast alongside senior editor senior associate editor. Nicole Lee and of course -- It is welcome everybody experts -- -- All right well let's talk about. The biggest tech flops -- -- Her. Just getting ready until it yes well -- equal and I mean we're we're talking before the show about there are predictions but this is actually kind of look back at it and and it you know. The -- up first and won't be the last the only actor here or every where in the media -- -- game business insider apparently put -- -- list their fifth top fifteen biggest pet swaps 2010. Because there are waiting and then you know that as those from time left for flopped. The not -- Google. Got two of them at the -- through Google TV. Which you know. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It's like what you like to products and -- -- -- for me the amount is enough I Mi B a month mounted via its Q do you before content while today fit -- -- -- He has been taken a lot of -- -- -- I mean from you know certainly networks blocking content. You know a lot of pundits out there I think have been. Knocking -- TV. You know it will be -- -- and see what happens that I think certainly. There's there's some concern. Among -- myself and I -- For Google TV in the standalone box world you know I think if they do stuff like they -- with Sony -- its integrated into an existing device like a Blu-ray player. Or -- TV. And has some potential. It's so exciting space I need to competing against group is it is Boxee box is all of the console. -- console that -- -- -- The video playing features in them. So it's still early days and you know -- be more apps probably demo Google TV specific coming out in the future who would loosen. In -- act is too early. Yeah I personally it's really young it's like a whole new paradigm it's a brand new paradigm. -- -- -- Well -- -- -- early reviews of Google TV market. Nets that's pretty much -- But you know it's been a couple months it's -- Because a plan. But it's there just isn't there yet says very -- well actually has a lot of different things on here. You know Google TV I think is number eight. Google Buzz is on here. Gave blood -- saying -- designers and I needed that sanction. It does to -- hundreds who are really talk about that -- but the number one flop. Is the Nexus One. It -- go it alone I mean so. I think you -- look at this 12 ways. And I think the way business insider's look -- at -- -- while the phone was nice -- sales were not who will kill the project a few months after it was released. So the phone -- -- -- is widely considered a really good phone we have a couple of years that you know we play a lot of notes that. On its she still has on that you know and she is an -- -- -- -- -- as are -- and she really loves that found. So I don't think the phone can be -- -- but the sales model. I think many blog where -- said hey you're gonna shake up the way phones are sold. Sells direct. It into your credit can we agree on yet. It did -- at the same time I don't think it shouldn't be tried again. You know I I do agree that that -- -- you know what was probably because he couldn't find exploit could play around with it. -- that's the number one reason people buy all of the going to -- -- plan within anyway in the buys those. You do that the Nexus One on Google didn't prevent customers or end of the customers citizens that I have an oral -- -- -- -- post on this forum. Yet from other user and literature. Yet that's not exactly is the best -- -- services -- But the full it's simple. Thing with the -- -- and I hope it doesn't it's a nice on it and people I know bought an Andy liked it and I think. You make a really good point about the in store purchase experience I think that's really important to cellphone. And I we've heard rumors about the nexus two would that it would be sold by best buy exclusively. Or -- the -- -- -- good news. He had definitely 'cause then you have really nice phone and you haven't best buy -- -- -- at least all over the US right. So. He would be great thing to try again. But certainly the way they tried this you -- customer service to use to -- one and only online where people could never touch it -- And you know work -- and attend amended complaint that it was very successful in the geek circles that he was ready. Hot topic in notre it was when you don't developers developers knew about it but. -- -- -- have a praise him it wasn't subsidence. Mean how many people don't let us some idea yeah yeah for the most part -- the most part if you wanted to get it unlocked whenever urging me eakins. You can't get it unlocked and with. All right well let's talk about another area Google's failing. You can't but she -- there's of the survey. If it would love them I just like to point out their failures. I'm sorry I hope -- -- -- -- analysts. Gene Munster with piper Jaffe. Revealed the results of a survey in his team recently conducted -- -- -- -- Compared to galaxy tablet says start out strong -- -- 600000. Units worldwide in its first month of availability. So -- -- that against the iPad to sort of see what users. Would prefer and how much they -- each tablet. Should cost. And I think they're preparing the iPad three G versus the -- and there isn't suitable weapon or -- from -- to be fair. By a margin of 85% to 15%. People prefer it three G over the -- It out but to hear -- can in this article by month or its -- -- its effect on you outside. Well I expect people -- threw open maybe -- to test statistically. Significant. Sample size for the market. But I did -- it doesn't I'm not I would be surprised. You know -- -- they're pretty well known well expected. There -- few points -- I do think. Acting CEE keeps it. I think people just expect Apple to -- month. It doesn't just generally geeky -- they're okay outlet to be more expensive and no candidate because no they've been -- at Avalon -- if it has a hundred has it that way. Let's add this pattern the pricing difference here is that we didn't cover that it took people the perceived value of -- iPad three G came out of 417 daughters of the galaxy tab it 283 dollars and in reality. The iPad three G. Cost would. The six. Started stinging. -- -- I think it's 629. Type had. The Wi-Fi only version as porn and united and that -- galaxy tab. Fairness of the iPad three G six the galaxy -- 59. So it's it's actually sort of reverse so what people perceive. If a candidate into the physical size but it's physically got the tab is -- the side -- -- -- -- -- It is one more warranted anymore for that but -- smaller it -- -- At this new Oprah Winfrey behind it. -- lubricate the things. You just doesn't know about it. Like if you'll never had a chance to Mueller and an accident that over and over -- it. -- -- I think if you do want to beat Apple in this scheme -- you have to go a little bit cheaper like -- if I think. The tablet space and computing speeds to typically. The who. The cheaper making to be okay. But no I I did think and send her order -- -- on parliament tomorrow sadly this is this. Green is not the same size which may -- some people may light can. You know I think. Power must have -- integrated the UI's still lots -- -- as nice and easy especially in tablet form has that. And -- -- better honeycomb is gonna fix all that but it's not and I. I today -- -- a good point. It's also name recognition an iPad is so much my name recognition and color -- it is not a -- now. Dennis Tito relatively new not as much -- share. Mind share in -- market it you don't just take some time at the -- right. By. Phones. Correct exactly let's talk about that now okay to -- Here is the point of this show by the way restock particular grew. We'll pick on rim this time everybody's favorite. Committed -- on these days passed so. A couple things Nielsen in survey came out -- of the total US. Mobile phone market. And couple things feature phones still represents 70% of the market compared to Smartphones with nine point 7% market. Of those people who have a Smartphones of that 29%. 22 point 7% of those are running injury and that is up from. But is it I think 9% to the beginning of the year that is a huge increase. In -- however many months that was in eleven months at this point. Blackberry. Buyers very rim is that 27%. And iPhone is at least 10% as well and but -- rim has sort of lost a large portion of their Merck and I think this. As as more and more companies. Move to -- -- and today. The -- -- more more I key people I T departments in large companies he sector adopt and I live in wanted to be more friendly to the Android operating system. I think and definitely see a move away from ram. Margaret who would ever -- I mean so these -- 35% the beginning of the year and now it's down to -- companies have percent per room. And then unity can even extrapolate that a little more as they servitude of -- People who already own Smartphone would you wanna buy next only 15% of those people wanted to buy a Blackberry now. Verses 35% for Apple devised stands 20% for an injured today. That's that's this strikes me that that sounds about right about -- -- but where people live the moment. And you you begin to remember that there is this large untapped 70% market -- -- minutes of each of. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Next year they -- -- and they do Nielsen survey indicated that when it 5% of them would buy an Apple. Device and 28% would buy hundreds and it's preaching to you and I don't have a device it's it's about split between those two. And it didn't like anyone actually there are a lot of entry level and iphones now -- Almost are basically that the feature phone but there have been more functional brake so I think it's -- bit. A little bit AT&T. Brain and Def players I mean -- seems like prepaid -- yeah that that mole lol and I'll mention. So some -- numbers fun to think about we'll have to have to wait and see what happens. So here we're gonna talk about Apple app store app actually. Kind of weird for this show -- -- But the app in question is actually a magazine out from -- is company called the media provider. It was rejected from Apple's app store. -- -- because it -- featured exclusive content about Android. And so that you know there's no quote from Apple here but -- to the guy who submitted it. That it. Apple rejected it because of the content. And -- sort of goes off to -- -- out censorship. You know they won't allow any nudity apps that feature nudity even if they're like you know. Apt -- key to about the human body your science -- you know Sports Illustrated permanent yes. -- Com. So if it's you know the timing here is obviously standards. The coal. Earth before his shows that -- -- fine whatever why would you wanna handrail that. This is that you you know putting an Android magazine in the Apple app store. And skiing. Ever. Some kind of beat back and something I don't understand. -- -- I say hey guess what -- Alice's in the iTunes. Podcast and -- actually load does pretty well. It does pretty well but it's it doesn't get it isn't that an RSS feed -- you -- -- digging begin on any. -- -- It's true artist is saying you know just you have your iPhone or your -- I -- and I'm happy that I. You know have -- phone. And that might be like evangelical thing they're trying to convert iPhone users and Android users -- And there you go and that's when Apple says. Get away nowhere near. You get like schematic of the patient and -- and I haven't. Little box safari right that -- -- -- go to any getting the contents within IRA arms. It's on and you are right the moon on. So Android two to. For audio it's some of us know and love. Approximately 43 point. 4% of us at this point com so it's taken seven months since -- -- it was released according. Two. New stats from -- old but it is now. Has become the most used version of standard operating system. Yeah I it is well I don't know -- that looks good. I mean I don't think we have any specific stats on Iowa last but I would guess that that's probably higher. Well yeah and it's an -- the only reason not to upgrade. The trial last version is because you -- really old -- -- Vietnamese flow feature. Though it is actually a lot harder to upgrade your your version of violence that it is standard because most of the hundred -- if not all do over the air update. But then we need to remember that some phones the long -- to upgrade and others and around -- island and delay has repair ship. If they pushed out the two to update to every phone as soon as. They released it then these numbers would be you know ninety some hi -- I mean you know also 2.2 has some -- Lerner and restrictions for older food and sin. All these other things but I do think if you think if you -- -- -- shopping for an end iphones and you just you should just get let -- two point. Added the I agree that that area -- you don't really -- and upgrade yet if you if you shopping traveling in and get one B two point that's just me. So the good news for Android developers here I think is that over 80% of phones at this point are running injury to one or 22 with. Considered be considered the modern era offender -- Let's not forget two point -- economy and you know though and an -- or seven months. Will that 40% of them. And three point oh will be coming out then -- -- it. That some updates were rolled out last week to use theater marketplace. Com and one of these Hughes. -- -- -- this is it been existed another app stores like the iPhone store. -- Apple app store for awhile. But now it's gonna be -- -- marketplace -- required that all developers actually rate their apps you can. -- -- all preteen teen or mature. And presumably although there's nothing currently in the -- under an operating system that I know of to. Limit to users' ability or your kids' ability to downloads amateur app. I would guess maybe that's going to be released in 23. There may be found so why else would they be -- this right now. -- -- we do have ratings unless he can use it somehow he feel to it some you can. Block some some. Right yeah diamond -- I think though that we probably do that -- -- who doesn't rate their app. You know in a timely manner. Will have their app automatically rated mature. Just cover -- -- -- and there is trying to be safe I think it's an acrylic and an unrated category for those. You know. I don't -- singer added saying that references to alcohol tobacco and drugs will -- -- a teen but. Need to focus on consumption. Are still of those -- thinks we should carry a mature rating. I just they can what -- can -- -- from the consumption. Drug alcohol and well you never know -- There's the -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I -- yes no way they did not like third party are rarely -- go literally -- you bleed into. Share it and you could just take a picture retiring in -- I'm a -- your -- -- the -- All right well coming up after the break we take -- visors. Hands Motorola took the -- on what the four -- devices are going to be introduced scene in 2011. All -- more coming up after this. Molly -- and practically inviting you to join us for the 2010 edition of cnet's holiday help desk that happens every Monday at 1 PM Pacific 4 PM eastern starting November 22. It's where we make you look like a brilliant tech gift giver as we take your live calls and we feel your emails and -- Send us an email right now to holiday help desk at cnet.com and along with the rest of cnet's editors will point you to the right product at the right -- Holiday help desk Mondays at 1 PM Pacific time starting November 20 seconds at cnet.com slash life. Aren't welcome back. So. Earlier this week -- at. The addicts -- -- twenty and then technology conference. Everybody's favorite -- CEO Sanjay job. Motorola said com. That there -- definitely have four G devices ready in the marketplace by early 2011. Almonds is sort of -- is as before or after there should -- he rollout announcements. -- the same time seemed to me. Which if you -- that -- are rolling out. Though he -- Verizon is running on Nokia and now markets are some great and you know you're there are only gonna have the USB data -- Right there it there did Verizon -- -- that ruling goes out the same data that. -- -- markets flies. But for GOP although ninety cent I didn't get it any phone that the Catholic USB -- -- So Motorola have four G devices. In a matter and early 2011 N additionally said that they're gonna have a seven inch and a ten inch tablet. In the pipeline. -- -- -- Definitely of a more tablets is -- is good. He says that Motorola's looking to customize its operators to differentiate their tablets for the rest. You know it is no surprise is something -- -- groan about. -- So you know we'll see what happens there. Tom in that. It's an interesting idea to have -- dissemination attendance. At their Booth sizes. Available. Yeah I mean I think weeks. Samsung has been rumored to come -- with. Maybe ten interest in a tab often non print that rumor. I think that would definitely out -- because in the galaxy tapper as the minutes. Hard time we give it is actually it's a pretty good device. -- complained personally is that it's not. Big enough because they're really liked the -- at stream. So I could tenants could solve. And are based on a president of -- thousand dollars but -- they actually Unix -- With the -- -- -- I thought -- got -- -- often you like the action if we'll hit and yet you have certainly. I -- so. We'll see what happens here com but we actually. You know related to this there has been some image -- that have come out -- Motorola. Android powered. Device called the so we saw some images last week and -- -- -- bespoke confirmation where this them. I posted a message to the AT&T team -- me. You know I want to upgrade my phone but -- wait until the Motorola -- comes out and AT&T wrapped. Basically confirmed that the Motorola. Olympus for AT&T. Will be coming out. Some time in. January says Motorola -- should -- sometime. In December or January. Is perhaps at he has yet. It sounds like and looks like kind of a cool device. You know it has a front facing camera. Will be running -- -- tegra two processor which can processor of choice for. -- new phones at least 2011 phones -- say. In the big screen has Bluetooth 21 -- You know it looks like an iPhone killer. And -- -- clearly got there and they're aiming them. In -- enough time and really a big fan of wanna learn that they have -- the it's certainly not one of the most popular. Operating system voters should have customization. And I do me it's definitely good for -- he did -- a few more of pedantic and -- as an Avalon now there's suited up at and I don't yes -- agreement -- media. -- -- -- But beyond that it you know not admin super -- on Mandarin that may be that prepared person the Verizon iPhone they really wanna double down. Somewhere where Verizon has strong which is Sandra address. So. -- sells the also -- -- of hardware news Acer has unveiled a four point he -- its Android. Phone. With the quote so little -- tablet. And McCain so so of -- -- it. The really big phone. We're talking about before so where's the -- -- -- How bullet he writes that he -- -- owners -- we -- -- the of those four was really big. And it's only four point three inches this is four point eight inches but then we also have dragged on the Dell's streak. For being like -- that tablet that's only five inches. But if you don't have on Ninan. I I wouldn't put pictures -- -- -- -- -- to a phone has to be something they can comfortably hold up next -- year. I just don't see it happen. -- a large -- while the district has done them. I -- -- and so this is so by that logic anyway. The the point the line is I guess five inches. Five inches here -- under five year. A phone with the sold out. Her -- -- his soul of the town Redmond. This serious -- didn't talk about what version. -- dread this phone. Will be running that it will. Even Nina -- suspect it device that their. Proposed that are well developed doesn't want to get pictures and -- don't -- -- it is this needs. Eastern -- his or whatever. Running class and one that's gonna have that gigahertz processor eight megapixel camera with fidelity flash and a front -- to make pixel camera. For video call -- Wi-Fi Bluetooth and GSM phone in the senate narrowly going to be on band GTE mobile -- -- rated. Anti -- -- -- main content the name of this means that whether it's a picture Easter blank. They're trying to Loma Linda's gonna call it the soul of the solo without -- online and then there -- just gonna. All right well we've got a lot of -- lately firm Moore talked about apps and this is our -- talked more about apps. And -- started out with -- -- favorite. Winamp. For Android. Has been has come out of beta anti it is supposedly pretty good. Winamp -- -- it down. I think what they're trying to do it trying to become the iTunes. Of the Android world because there's nothing that -- -- that area now there's things like double -- You know I wouldn't say it is and -- of clear leader there. And Winamp which is still pretty popular. They say there's sixty million users most of them internationally at this point only -- of them US. This could create his. The Winamp resurgent. Surgeons and US maybe I does a lot of cool things it does like wireless sync. Com. I guess both your music -- shouldn't shout cast stations. Chet casts -- exits and old old school in exactly the -- Caster -- personalized. You know. We need allows Winamp so -- when he gets -- new Android phone early next year. -- -- -- -- downloading. Winamp transparent. Probably will probably. -- This happen is see no maybe not. Popular. -- -- super fun out it is popular. But I think it's pretty cool chase introduced a mobile banking app for intraday -- -- -- for awhile and they say in the first week it's already gotten two in 2000 downloads. And the coolest feature -- -- can pay bills and take -- balances and but you can take a picture hundred -- To deposit it and I know there's other apps that have us live now but. I think this is really competitive compelling and any bank -- doesn't have this feature should be worried because I have seriously considered switching banks just -- I thought is that yanks music -- and the iPhone there was teeth -- -- yes he has had one. -- people will be at PayPal and -- net. So it's good to see this come to -- and thank. Exactly I hate going to if him isn't the -- and -- and all that. General community -- saudis are now on ATMs -- In this -- why do that when you can lighting and leave your house office. It is good -- your mailbox and take pictures whose tech comes in. Ways enemy attack refers played exactly into. And finally. In the app -- -- -- Google Reader. So an app from -- direct and there's hope clear -- their Google Reader this site they released an -- an app that looks pretty cool. You know obviously. We'll -- all the content from your Google Reader you know web. Set up there and -- to read our assess feeds and you know has also took pretty -- -- -- display is and -- -- news keywords and filter -- Clearly music volume keys to navigate. And it supports plug -- to see -- Eight -- -- video quality and maybe use is as a podcast client now with the podcast. I like him there and -- gas in their -- About sort of support from audiences is prequel idea -- this. It looks like a good app. The only concern I would have not about the sap specifically bad about you know fire as a developer. Another -- of competing RSS app and others a lot of in the under marketplace. Now. And are actually pay. That you know has Google -- -- your revenue stream here. And they get it just -- to provide a little bit Mars and the extra equipment better interface may be in May be more support for. The third party plug -- thank you said it may be -- Itamar. Limit more than what the standard -- the Wii numbers it is the -- is the same. It's the same conundrum that tutor app developers -- brightness to -- happened and there's in a third party -- and a terrific development -- so. Just -- it off. There recruiters are legitimate and Europe and the yet managed -- a step up being a man that haulers to -- -- the all right so before we get team now. We get a bunch of email actually asking him like me it's gonna new phone let accidents. All. Would -- best apps. Not to answer any of those -- necessarily I'm gonna tell you. My. Sort of required out you know when I just got a new phone actually it's a new -- phone outages -- off the -- Incredible to upgrade its TC incredible upgrade from my original Droid which is you know this phone is nice and fast and will hold me over until all the tegra two front facing camera LT TE phones come out next year and atomic contracts -- So these are the first apps that I went and installed them. Granted the first one -- actually is not from the installed authority there are baptized Gmail. So -- -- that team now please email for work email from a personal account. You know -- some that. Tying it backs -- your settings it. Hasn't your calendar. I did actually one -- first things even -- installed Gmail and -- and it got the upgrade for Gmail because under. Sorry Google is releasing. -- apps individually now and into. Gmail app has about it cool features like irony in box. So Gmail. Are -- next -- pandora. Nam. You know I love pandora both on handwritten -- -- because music is kind of hard to manage on. -- com. Pandora is great as they consider ignited worry about it -- really put that music but music on my phone directly edges and -- pandora and in the gym. Have only definitely give -- an envelope storage. Unit read exactly. -- space you have an unlimited data plan yes that's important. A -- so next. And this this is intra team because this goes to what we're site -- -- reader. So for podcast apps there is be free Google listen. Which I don't use. I tried it I know a lot better now I try to like a year ago and it just couldn't do it wants to do so I bought an app called dog catcher. But -- it was about six -- and have been using ever since then I'm pretty happy then as a nice widget. And -- worked really well handles that actually does our tests as well as for the video and audio podcasts. So they're you know -- capture. I -- might -- a little biased Alamo. I think it is definitely. You know one of best that's out there that. CNET news for -- If -- -- pay the latest tech is this only as part that it's -- -- -- You can even read everything about Android apps right there. And there's gonna be new update to CNET news coming out pretty soon. -- let's see what else Google navigation so this is and avoid Google Maps or Google navigation are sort of one of these days ethnic and you know I got -- AKA my GPS was stolen out of my car Lego moments ago and rather than replace it. You know my standalone GPS -- easement on. And it's awesome it's the most part better than it -- -- standalone GPS does that work. So big -- -- that. See what we -- here audible. You know I've been using an audible the audiobook service for years and years and their app for infrared. Can map I don't know multitude and adds it to create out. -- can download and buy books and correctly on the app. It has some built in sleep timer can access -- past library. It has really -- you buy. So addicted to really conversions but through the first person -- -- for indirect. Rounded out the list here we have drop box which again is not -- many -- -- specific thing. But drop boxes -- to have a file storage location that is shared among -- devices that drop box for iPhone and Android and windows and Mac. So actually when I was migrating phones at Starbucks -- my old phone and a popular bunch of files to that I want my new phone and copy them to my new phone. -- And so it through that really cool thing. And finally and sent is -- NASA mass replacement. France's built in this mess out. It has nice U Angela different schemes you can use. One thing that I really like -- has sort of pop up SMS -- So little. Box will pop up with the message communities can actually reply from that pop up box with out actually loading the program itself. And it's free. As the villain we don't have to Peta may texts that charges nominee just uses years standard. You know as a mass. Right down to the but it just as an icu -- -- a couple of nice features like through the pop up. Text. For responding so there's my list I would love to hear your list if you have them sent -- two and -- -- at CNET -- com. And Mabel readers in futures -- -- anything that that was to call. And I say the Kindle app is pretty nice if you're into an is on the of the grid when he had in those -- for me. -- I do like -- -- where it's. Although I do notice them and write on them. Though and the -- on it -- they're gonna come out the lower -- year ahead AM bad for the new islands being neat it's institutes TC. Smaller screen is my I loving your -- but on the iPad I had by the utility to Allentown -- There's a -- -- yet I think -- think -- amusement at. The idea that is a great point and something it probably should there hit it. Com -- Here is actually one more apathy may want to check out -- -- got an email from Joey says hey teams to -- and -- it could really use some good handwriting recognition software for Android tablets. Can you timely if you know which one is best the best software available for under today and do expect Google to come out. But Fannie and if so when the two I've seen so far and reader and mobile rate picture -- -- -- handwriting recognition is confident. It really is it is. At least these -- that tablets they're not phone and. Com -- even remember last time I use hand writing is like at this -- used to keep by. Yeah exactly -- amendment by testing. The adding tablets. Its. I'd still can't I can't imagine being fast I mean I'm not a fan of like any of the tablet he boards. You know especially -- -- ones because it's kind of why an awkward and I actually. Bring around a Bluetooth keyboard a lot instead but I can't imagine handwriting recognition being as fast that -- -- ever. It's. -- -- -- -- He if you are if you insist on doing this let me direct you. Ten. Fifteen years back in time. To little app called. Graffiti if ET your fee yes so -- who has. You know when we all -- our original palm pilots. There where you know as big as the Dell streak. And have their covers and you're no we're just ridiculous little devices that awesome for the time. We used to use upon a back in the -- -- if -- on menu phone -- should -- them. Com is meant -- -- there -- -- The graffiti -- graffiti is its handwriting recognition but. They sort of said hey. People trying to figure out how to do -- greater recognition rate. Huge -- -- computers and fast and smart enough and powerful enough to. Recognize everyone's variation inheriting so we're gonna reinvent the out that. How -- -- and we're gonna defined enough of it based on the sort of the existing alphabet. That. It's gonna be very standard and a specific. Way out to dry each letter city hadn't -- the graffiti alphabet. The two wasn't that hard. -- -- -- yeah stickers stuck to our palm pilots -- -- But went to learned -- the accuracy was. Phenomenal then you get an idea is great. In comparison to all other -- like Windows Mobile or will whatever was one analyst around that he had which was you know like 70% accuracy news is that -- -- -- the leading -- -- this had really good accuracy in the have a map for. Android that you know -- hero I haven't tried it is actually pretty good. So diet it was so you and then go back -- time a little bit acting that's. -- via video check it out of the really. Aren't that is our show for its day. We are at the end of the year going to be doing me -- 2011 predictions shipments have you have predictions for next -- send us your list. It'll read the best ones on our final so of the year which I think is December 23. In the meantime if you wanna send is that or anything else in emails that -- -- at cnet.com. Follow us on Twitter Android atlas. Or watch a live show every week cnet.com. 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