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March 9, 2009 2:25 PM PDT

Firefox, too, revamping new-tab behavior

by Stephen Shankland
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Opening a new tab in a Web browser shows a lot of prime but empty real estate, and now the programmers behind Firefox are following their peers at Safari and Chrome in trying to make it more useful.

Mozilla interface guru Aza Raskin posted screenshots of a new way to fill the new-tab screen with something useful but not too taxing for the computer.

Along the right edge is the "quick-access bar," a stack of thumbnail views of your popular pages selected on the basis of how recently and frequently you visited them. In the upper left are buttons that take various actions. For example, if you've selected some text on a Web page before opening the new tab, that text will be presented as a search that can be performed by clicking the button in the new tab.

Those with the latest developer build of Firefox 3.1 can try the new-tab behavior through a Firefox extension. To do so, see Raskin's three-step process described on the Mozilla Labs blog.

Mozilla has been testing new-tab options since January. "From the feedback from the last two rounds of new tab concepts, we know that the page needs to load instantly (even a small wait breaks user experience); that it shouldn't be visually distracting; and that it should be a launch point into your daily activities," Raskin said.

Safari 4, in beta, and Google Chrome both offer an array of popular Web pages when opening a new tab. Google's Toolbar can bring the Chrome behavior to Firefox and Internet Explorer.

Raskin explained Mozilla's thinking about relegating the Web page thumbnails to a right-side strip this way: "It may seem strange that the quick-access strip is along the right of the window. It's there in order to be polite. If you've got your mind on opening a new tab and just entering a url, it's outside your foveal vision."

Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.
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by Meek-29 March 9, 2009 3:13 PM PDT
No one mentions Opera ??!!!!!! It's the first browser to offer speed dial which other browsers 'borrowed' and Opera's speed dial is still unique and better than the others'. This wt gets all Opera users, Opera is the most creative browser and competition allows other browsers to take its ideas but when talking about those features, Opera is sidelinded !!!!!!
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by tipoo_ March 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT
I know, i just got used to having the best browser excluded from everything :)
by infinitely March 9, 2009 4:06 PM PDT
Nobody cares about Opera. It's the worst web browser ever created and it's laughable that its users have to talk about it all the time. It may have a lot of nice features, but who knows? The interface is so bad it's impossible to use them. I'd rather use Internet Explorer than Opera.. and I use a Mac so that would be IE 5.
by saiyan March 9, 2009 4:56 PM PDT
It's obvious that IE fanboys like "infinitely" has never used Opera browser (version 7, 8 and 9) before.
Just look at what he said about Opera:
1) "It may have a lot of nice features, but who knows?"
Hmm? What? You are not certain what features Opera has?
This is hint #1 that you have never used Opera.
2) "The interface is so bad it's impossible to use them."
Examples please.
I find Opera to have the best single-key shortcuts among all major browsers not to mention you can customize them. Also single key search in location bar is a very nice feature and is customiazable to. As for the rest of user interface involving tabs and mouse click and point, it's pretty much the same as all other major browsers.
3) "I'd rather use Internet Explorer than Opera."
Yup. An IE fan boy alright.
by ZetaZeta_ March 9, 2009 6:43 PM PDT
Saiyan, there's no such thing as an IE fanboy. He's obviously trying to bash Opera, not say IE is any good.
Unless you think Opera is so good that anyone who says it's worse than IE is actually praising IE, since there's no way in freezing hell they'd be bashing the "best browser" Opera.
by jabberwockgee March 9, 2009 6:58 PM PDT
@saiyan

Nobody cares about opera. I have it installed on my computer along with Firefox, IE, Safari, Flock, and Chrome. I prefer everything to Opera except for Flock.

Does that make me an IE fanboy since I never explicitly said I prefer IE to Opera? Oh frack, I just said it.
by thetarget March 9, 2009 9:41 PM PDT
Everyone has opinions. Opera is the no.1 browser for me. The beauty of it is that it has everything I need, and nothing more. Like jabberwockgee I've installed every listed browser out there, but I'll always go back to Opera.
by plings March 14, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
"Nobody cares about Opera"?

Then how come it has nearly 40 million users and all other browsers keep ripping off Opera's features? And how come the Opera haters are so keen on bashing Opera. Clearly, the "nobody cares about Opera" trolls do care about Opera. Otherwise they hadn't bothered bashing it :)
by monkeyfun14 March 24, 2009 8:11 PM PDT
@plings

Maybe because Chrome leapfrogged Operas years of marke tshare in a single month.
by Trixie99 March 25, 2009 4:24 PM PDT
Kidddllletz!!!

Opera roxxx .....'tis the best browser ever and don'cha dare 4-get it!!!!
by cisasteelersfan March 9, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
it was Opera that started this whole thing.
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by twolf2919 March 9, 2009 3:31 PM PDT
I've used Firefox since its beginnings and am currently using F3.1b2 and, as always, am mostly a happy customer. But it boggles the mind how thick-/wrong-headed the Firefox developers are with respect to one missing tab feature: ALLOW US TO OPEN A NEW TAB TO A DEFAULT HOME PAGE!!! It's soooo ridiculous that people have to resort to extensions (which currently don't work in 3.1b2!) in order to get this basic capability. I believe it's a long-time feature of most other browsers. Why can't Firefox developers master such "amazing" feats? After all, opening a new window already goes to the selected home page - opening a new tab should simply do the same thing (or there should at least be an option to do the same thing).

Are you listening, Firefox developers??
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by Pete Bardo March 9, 2009 3:52 PM PDT
Personally, I would rather a blank page open. When I first open the browser, a home page may (or may not) be relevant. But when I open a new tab, I just what it empty. I usually know where I'm going and certainly don't want to wait while it opens the Cox or AOL home page! IE 7 has this annoying behavior that when I open a new window, it opens it with the page I'm already looking at? Why would I want that? I'm already looking at the page.

There is a handy little "Home Page" button on the tool bar. How hard is that to use? Does it take that much time?
by twolf2919 March 9, 2009 4:08 PM PDT
Well, to each their own - I have my own home page filled with useful links to most of the pages I visit. When I want to go somewhere, I simply open a new tab and click on the link. Two clicks. With firefox, it's one extra click - i.e. 1/3 more clicks. May not be a lot to you - but to me, that's 1/3 too many clicks.
by Glenn_Reimche March 9, 2009 4:54 PM PDT
I have bookmarks automatically opening in a new tab, so one click on the bookmarks toolbar is all it takes. I don't have to "manually" open a tab first.

Of course, that probably only works with the Tab Mix Plus extension, which already lets you decide to what to Load on new tabs: Blank Page, Home Page, Current Page, Duplicate Page, or a User Location of your choosing.
by rapier1 March 9, 2009 5:05 PM PDT
@twolf2919:

IE8 lets you do that.
by jablankenship March 9, 2009 5:05 PM PDT
Just middle-click on the "Home" button on the tool bar. Doing that opens your home page in a new tab. That's a total of one click for you twolf.
by twolf2919 March 9, 2009 6:59 PM PDT
jablankenship, thanks for the middle-click-home suggestion. I didn't know that - might try that, but I'm not hopeful. I tend to have my hands on the keyboard and use CTRL-T a lot. Is there a keyboard equivalent to the action you gave?

Glenn, I don't use the bookmark toolbar because it doesn't work well for large # of links. My home page has about 60 different links on it (work and otherwise) - all of which I use throughout the day. It's nicely organized across the entire browser page - I can go to most links almost by "muscle memory". The toolbar can't hold many links accessible with a single click. Also, as you said - you need TabMixPlus...which is what I was using until it no longer worked with FF3.1b...thus my comment here.

Anyway, as another poster pointed out IE8 (and even before, I think) has it and I believe Safari might too. Additinally, as a GUI developer, I find the new-tab vs. new-window difference inconsistent. I expect to at least have a *CHOICE* (among prefs) to make it behave consistently.
by flemeister March 10, 2009 5:57 AM PDT
Having that option would be a nice fix, but I use Fast Dial anyway, and it defaults to the about:blank page, showing my 18 bookmarked webpages straight away.
by cz104th March 10, 2009 8:10 AM PDT
@twolf2919:
Tab Mix Plus has a dev build that works with 3.1b2.

http://tmp.garyr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9864
by c|net Reader March 10, 2009 10:10 AM PDT
@twolf2919

<cite>I tend to have my hands on the keyboard and use CTRL-T a lot. Is there a keyboard equivalent to the action you gave?</cite>

I find Tab Mix Plus to offer vastly more useful tab management in Firefox. Among the many wonderful additions it offers is what should appear in new tabs. With that option, you can arrange to have your home page load in new tabs. See Tab Mix Plus here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1122 (home page: http://tmp.garyr.net/).
by LunaticSX March 9, 2009 3:35 PM PDT
I use the OpenNewWindowFromHere and Go To Selected Text extensions in Firefox to pretty much eliminate wasted action when opening a new tab.

OpenNewWindowFromHere gives you a "New tab from here" contextual menu item when you right click, so you can duplicate the current tab.

Go To Selected Text essentially lets you treat any selected text as a link, so you can right-click on it and open it in a new tab.

There's probably one or more "Search for the selected text" extensions out there which will open the results in a new tab, but I don't really have that need so I haven't looked.
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by MadLyb March 9, 2009 4:48 PM PDT
I like opening to a blank page.

Until they implement that mind reading plug-in, don't waste cycles and bandwidth trying to guess.
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by caswell1515 March 9, 2009 4:55 PM PDT
well on my firefox i just have google as my home page and i feel its perfect to open a new tab straight to google if i wanna look something up. its a page with little load time and gives me the option of a search engine or i could just go to my adress bar and choose another site. very simple. especially with the custom igoogle homepages which have my sports and cnet feeds/

oh and my thing with opera is that i cant visit NRL.com because its written in some code not yet recognised (yep top browser that is)
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by freddo1212 March 9, 2009 5:32 PM PDT
You do not need Google as a home page as all browsers now have a search bar in the toolbars, which are generally pointed to Google. Also I have Opera 10.0 alpha build 1285, and did have the same problem with nrl.com, but with the latest versions it does finally load correctly.
by ibelieve01 March 10, 2009 6:07 AM PDT
That's funny, I just tested NRL.com on Opera and it opened fine. Of course, I'm using version 10, so maybe if you're using an old outdated version....
by this1! March 9, 2009 5:26 PM PDT
i really dont care that the new tab is blank page, its faster than loading anything else, but hey, maybe thats just me
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by ZetaZeta_ March 9, 2009 6:44 PM PDT
Some people use about:blank as their homepage. It's all preference.
by quackadilly March 9, 2009 8:55 PM PDT
Middle click the "home" button on Firefox.

Done!


Is it that hard? You want 1 click, there it is.
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by Angmarr March 9, 2009 8:56 PM PDT
This is what addons are for. Firefox improves itself after every so ofter by adding more feature that are most widely used by users, the ones users NEED. if you want to satisfy your WANTS, then find the addon (bet 10 bucks that it'll exist)

same goes for when they add a feature that you don't really need (through NOTHING that they have added to the default thus far can be considered annoying!) just find the addon that works around it.

this is the Firefox way! --- its a Great Browser, but the addoins make it a GOD
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by homercles82 March 10, 2009 5:58 AM PDT
I use firefox and love it btu for crying out loud you are an idiot. There is nothing here that will affect people's browsing preference.

All browser makers steal from each other. It's the same as software and OS's.
by gpasq March 9, 2009 9:57 PM PDT
I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why anyone would waste more than 1 or 2 cycles on considering how tabs work.
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by NPGMBR March 10, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
Ya know, I kinda agree. Honestly though I've never really used any browser other than IE and don't really have any motivation to. All these companies are trying to make Browsing and Search as easy as possible and in doing so they keep adding more and more layers of stuff that im betting a lot of people don't use. One of the many reasons people beat up on IE right.

Idon't know maybe I'll give Firefox a try and see if it lives up to the hype. I am kinda getting curious.
by willdryden March 10, 2009 9:32 PM PDT
I hate tabs. That is why I still use IE6. I had to load F on my win98 machin to open Hotmail, but I hate it.
by dapowell March 10, 2009 6:34 AM PDT
There's already plenty of plugins that take advantage of the empty space when you open a new tab. I've been using speed dial forever. I find Aza Raskin's interface ugly and needless with Firefox's plethora of plugins.

What I'd like is something you can't get through any skin or plugin currently. Give us the ability to (optionally) take advantage of the title bar space for our tabs, ala Chrome and Safari 4.
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by schmidty313 March 10, 2009 7:16 AM PDT
I just hope Firefox 3.1 fixes the application loading time. I know tracemonkey is going to be faster than Chromes engine, but the only reson I am using Chrome right now instead of Firefox 3.0.7 is because of the application loading time and the new tab/home screen. I know I can get extensions and all that jazz, but the only two extensions I use is Ad-block plus and download helper, I dont wanna over load on add-ons. I even use the default theme, I mean its a browser for crying out loud!

All want in firefox 3.1 is faster application loading time, and a stable tracemonkey. Then I will move back to Firefox for my default browser.
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by plbyrd March 10, 2009 7:46 AM PDT
This is very dumb decision for two reasons:

1) Privacy - You cannot have a tab open to something without the other tabs being visible to those around you.

2) Layout - This effectively kills sites designed to take full advantage of 1024 pixel screens as most users are still on 1024x768 and many using 1024x1280 portrait mode. Even if they make it collapsible it's still going to take up 10 pixels for the splitter bar and that's 10 pixels that's going to cause horizontal scrolling.
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by dry_gin March 10, 2009 8:28 AM PDT
who cares about most of users,
i think most of personal computers as now now - still have windows 98 or millennium installed on them, so what.
this technology is for the front line, so forget about 1024x768. and portrait mode 1024x1280?? popular format? common.
same for privacy, let's say the thumbnails of sites could be blured or something, depending on privacy settings - it's all doible.
by dry_gin March 10, 2009 8:19 AM PDT
with firefox becoming slower and slower day by day, i wonder for how long will i continue to use it, to my personal opinion it is slower than IE7 now, and not as stable as IE
still both browsers are far ahead of nearest competition
so if you want full featured internet browsing you will use one of them
and if you want minimalistic stable emulator you may switch to opera or safari - but again, chrome whould be better for such cases
the only good thing about opera to my opinion is it's usage in mobile devices like HTC phones and same goes to safari for iphone.
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by plings March 14, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
Opera is fast and stable on computers as well. And has useful stuff everyone else keeps ripping off. Give it a try. You'll get all the good stuff before all the other browsers manage to catch up :D
by queticomn March 10, 2009 1:23 PM PDT
Typical Bias C-net. Check out FoxTabs add-on for FireFox toy will love it. With C-net being connected with CBS online an all its subsidiaries, i can now trust c-net to be even more bias. I choose softpedia for all my news on technology now.

@dry_gin Your claims are invalid an hold no water.
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by Angmarr March 10, 2009 2:43 PM PDT
all im saying is that you can use addons to improve its features. if you happen to be too Stupid to figure that out.... well sad
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by camurai March 27, 2009 6:29 PM PDT
I have as idea that will solve the problem while keeping both sides happy... but I've already patented it. As twolf2919 said 'It's soooo (sic) ridiculous that people have to resort to extensions (which currently don't work in 3.1b2!) in order to get [firefox to open the homepage in a new tab]'. I agree that it is ridiculous that they haven't at the very least updated the add on that was needed to do this to work in 3.1. But if they want to keep the new tab to open blank (or to do whatever it is they are working on now which I doubt will ever interest me) then why don't they simply add the 'open in new tab' option when you right click on the homepage icon. Problem solved, both sides are happy. Hurry up and fix it cause it's pissing me off. And yes I am too impatient to wait for my blank page to open and then click on the homepage button.
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by tomtomdotcom June 8, 2009 12:37 AM PDT
Why can't FF just make it an option like in IE7+ >>Tools >> Internet Options >> General >> Tabs >> Settings >> "Open home page for new tabs instead of a blank page"...
That way users could choose what work best for them. BTW I hate IE for lack of full CSS 2.1 support but if they can do it then FF should be able to make this work too.
I'm using FF mainly because of Firebug the very best web developer tool ATM.
I tried Opera out as well but somehow it didn't fit in my work flow that well so I don't use it much. I do use it just for a quick browser test and for testing sites with disabled Javascript and Flash plugins because with the Quick Settings (F12) I can turn off/on said features with one click-- Genius!!
Chrome looks pretty good but as long as FF is working for me right now why should I switch?
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by shellyle June 21, 2009 1:29 AM PDT
see how <a href="http://www.newtabking.com">new tab king for Firefox</a> has changed the landscape of new tab navigation - my choice for the time being until Aza the guru bakes it into the Fox.

--shelly
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