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The U.S. economy generated 1,900 manufacturing jobs in computer and electronic products last month, reaching a total of 1.34 million in that category, the U.S. Labor Department reported Friday. In addition, 1,000 jobs were added in the area of computer systems design and related services, to 1.19 million. Each of these categories gained at least 1,700 jobs in July as well.
Overall, the U.S. economy added a lower-than-expected 169,000 nonfarm payroll jobs in August, to 134 million. The unemployment rate fell slightly to 4.9 percent.
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Industry isn't talking about this. Industry won't hire these people using these h-1b visas because these emmigrant job candidates have been in the U.S. for a while and they know what they are worth in dollars.
These h-1b visas have been available for several months now, and are only being used very slowly by the industry.
Isn't a Master's degree better than a bachelor's, why has industry exhausted all the bachelor level H-1b's before the Master's?
It's because they want cheap, loyal labor. Loyal to the green card and candidates that haven't been in the U.S. before. People who are new to the U.S. have no idea how expensive (in dollars) it is to actually live here, so they don't ask for enough. And even if they grumble, they won't leave because they need that Green card.
It's not about skills, it never has been, it's about cheap virgin h-1b labor, that's it pure and simple.
The General Accounting Office of the United States has reported that h-1ber's are making 20-30% less than there U.S. Citizen counterparts.
The head of Wipro (an outsourcing firm based in India) has said he needs more h-1b slots so he can steal more jobs from U.S. citizens.
Keep the cap where it is. Because industry still have h-1b Visas they can use.
the press release from USCIS. They put it out
when hardly any of the 6800 set aside for workers
from Chile and Singapore had been used.
Then, as you note, they've submitted LCAs for
less than half of the 20K visas for those with
advanced degrees from US colleges and
universities (kind of gives the lie to the "best
and brightest" propaganda line).
And then there are 10,500 E-3 visas for guest-
workers from Australia for the same kinds of
work/skills as H-1B visas.
And then there is no limit on H-1Bs for
governments (federal, state, county/parish,
local), colleges, universities, and non-profits.
And it is interesting that the US Department of
Labor still hasn't made those LCAs accessible via
the web so that US workers could have a shot at
applying to those companies for those jobs.
Industry isn't talking about this. Industry won't hire these people using these h-1b visas because these emmigrant job candidates have been in the U.S. for a while and they know what they are worth in dollars.
These h-1b visas have been available for several months now, and are only being used very slowly by the industry.
Isn't a Master's degree better than a bachelor's, why has industry exhausted all the bachelor level H-1b's before the Master's?
It's because they want cheap, loyal labor. Loyal to the green card and candidates that haven't been in the U.S. before. People who are new to the U.S. have no idea how expensive (in dollars) it is to actually live here, so they don't ask for enough. And even if they grumble, they won't leave because they need that Green card.
It's not about skills, it never has been, it's about cheap virgin h-1b labor, that's it pure and simple.
The General Accounting Office of the United States has reported that h-1ber's are making 20-30% less than there U.S. Citizen counterparts.
The head of Wipro (an outsourcing firm based in India) has said he needs more h-1b slots so he can steal more jobs from U.S. citizens.
Keep the cap where it is. Because industry still have h-1b Visas they can use.
the press release from USCIS. They put it out
when hardly any of the 6800 set aside for workers
from Chile and Singapore had been used.
Then, as you note, they've submitted LCAs for
less than half of the 20K visas for those with
advanced degrees from US colleges and
universities (kind of gives the lie to the "best
and brightest" propaganda line).
And then there are 10,500 E-3 visas for guest-
workers from Australia for the same kinds of
work/skills as H-1B visas.
And then there is no limit on H-1Bs for
governments (federal, state, county/parish,
local), colleges, universities, and non-profits.
And it is interesting that the US Department of
Labor still hasn't made those LCAs accessible via
the web so that US workers could have a shot at
applying to those companies for those jobs.
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- Americans and Permanent Residents are being discriminated by the use of these visas. Companies only target those the have an H1-B visa for jobs.
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(7 Comments)Equally disturbing is the unwillingness of Indian IT outsourcing companies to give U.S. citizens a chance to compete for jobs on U.S. soil. This massive open discrimination, practiced by WIPRO, TATA, and Satyam where fully 90% of their U.S. based workforce are Indian citizens. These same
companies are now complaining that their current growth, is affected by U.S. immigration policies:
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/006200905241114.htm.
How can this be possible at a time when IBM, Microsoft, Oracle... and many others are laying off skilled hi-tech workers? How can their growth within the United States be affected when there are hundreds of thousands of unemployed hi-tech workers? It could only be the case, if these companies never intend to hire U.S. workers for U.S. jobs. It's about time that these Indian companies gave up their old-world discrimination, and started to hire fairly, without bigotry, in the U.S. labor marker. No indeed these companies are using the H-1b and L-1 visa to remove millions of U.S. jobs, at all levels, to India.