May 8, 2006 8:55 PM PDT

Sony unveils PS3 pricing, release dates

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LOS ANGELES--Sony Computer Entertainment announced PlayStation 3 pricing and specific availability information while showing off the final version of the console's controller at a glitzy press conference Monday at Sony Pictures Studios here.

The PS3 will come in two configurations: one version with a 60GB hard drive that will cost $599, and a second with a 20GB hard drive that will come in at $499, SCE President Kaz Hirai said.

Those prices are significantly higher than Microsoft's Xbox 360, which has two versions, one with a 20GB hard drive that costs $399 and another with no hard drive that retails for $299.

The announcement came on the eve of the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3)--an annual gaming industry trade show taking place in Los Angeles this week.

In an interview with CNET News.com on Friday, SCE Executive Vice President and co-Chief Operating Officer Jack Tretton said, effectively, that the company believes consumers will pay whatever the next-generation console costs.

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"People are going to perceive enough value" with the PS3, Tretton said, "that they're not going to consider the price to be a barrier to entry."

The PS3 is certainly a big technological leap over its best-selling PlayStation 2, which Sony said Monday had recently topped 103 million units sold.

The PS3, which is based on the Cell processor, will play CDs, DVDs and include a Blu-ray drive. It also includes built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connectivity, as well as Ethernet compatibility. Further, it includes Dolby digital surround sound functionality and supports high-definition video up to 1080p.

The console also can run up to seven wireless controllers at once, and all PS3s will come with a built-in hard drive, either 60GB or 20GB.

Finally, it supports USB, Sony Memory Sticks, Secure Digital (SD) and CompactFlash.

In addition to announcing pricing, Sony also said the PS3 will hit store shelves in North America on Nov. 17, six days after its Japanese launch on Nov. 11.

Hirai noted that Sony is committed to shipping 4 million PS3s by Dec. 31 and another 2 million by March 31, 2007. That means--if customers are not put off by the console's high price--Sony could be in position to avoid the criticism Microsoft took for not being able to meet initial customer demand for the Xbox 360.

Meanwhile, Sony also showed off for the first time the PS3's controller--which looks much like that of the PS2, though it is silver rather than black.

How it differs substantially is that it includes technology that ties character movement on screen to that of players' hands. That is, as players move their hands around, the controller automatically senses the movement and translates it to character movement on screen.

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That is a significant innovation that the Xbox 360 does not have. Nintendo, by contrast, has long said that the controller for its own forthcoming next-generation console, the Wii, would have built-in motion-sensitive technology.

Tuesday morning, Nintendo hosts its own gala press conference in Hollywood. Microsoft's press conference follows immediately afterward, also in Hollywood.

It is expected that, among other things, Microsoft will formally announce development of "Halo 3," the follow-up to its best-selling "Halo 2." It is also thought that Microsoft will  

Correction: This story incorrectly described the expected capabilities of the controller for Nintendo's impending Wii game console. Nintendo has said that the controller would have built-in motion-sensitive technology.

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Sony is a deceptive cheat...
"Where it differs substantially is in the fact that it includes
technology that ties character movement on screen to that of
players' hands. That is, as players move their hands around, the
controller automatically senses the movement and translates it
to character movement on screen.

That is a significant innovation that the Xbox 360 does not have,
and it is not known if Nintendo's own forthcoming next-
generation console, the Wii, will have similar functionality."

*****

You are a complete waste of a journalist. The Wii brought about
motion sensing controls into the home console market this past
fall. Sony mearly copied the idea to steal Nintendo's thunder.

Sony has lost all of my respect. And the launch of this
technological beast is going to be plagued with so many bugs, it
will be far worse than the 3% or whatever 360 is.
Posted by bwanac-20838752356067768479670 (18 comments )
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sad
This message is to all the jerks...you know who you are. You have a x-box or a dodge or a fancy pair of pants. We all can look down on someone some where. We can slam something. I could go on about this and my experience in gaming and in life forever...but I won't. I could guess how good or bad anything could be or will be...but I don't know yet. Maybe the ps3 will have big problems...maybe it won't sell...maybe it doesn't really matter...but unless you have a crystal ball...shut up
Posted by witchwolfgoul (1 comment )
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Sony is a deceptive cheat...
"Where it differs substantially is in the fact that it includes
technology that ties character movement on screen to that of
players' hands. That is, as players move their hands around, the
controller automatically senses the movement and translates it
to character movement on screen.

That is a significant innovation that the Xbox 360 does not have,
and it is not known if Nintendo's own forthcoming next-
generation console, the Wii, will have similar functionality."

*****

You are a complete waste of a journalist. The Wii brought about
motion sensing controls into the home console market this past
fall. Sony mearly copied the idea to steal Nintendo's thunder.

Sony has lost all of my respect. And the launch of this
technological beast is going to be plagued with so many bugs, it
will be far worse than the 3% or whatever 360 is.
Posted by bwanac-20838752356067768479670 (18 comments )
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$499 is a rip off?? I think so... Anyone else?
The $499 model does not include HDMI 1080p support, no memory stick reader and no WIFI. I thought this was going to blow the socks off Msft. There are a few "DIE HARDS" who will buy this but 6 months into launch I see these sitting around on store shelves collecting dust.
Please do not try to justify this with the blu-Ray thing because $30-$40 for a movie and no backwards compatibally with current generation DVDs really shoots that one in the foot.
Posted by Hotdogah (6 comments )
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Serious garbage
The only difference between the two units is the size of the hard drive...thats it. As for not being backward compatable with dvd...How in the world would it play ps2 games without being able to read dvds??? Both next gen disk formats are backwards compatable, so quit spreading your garbage.
Posted by Rolndubbs (194 comments )
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Just another example of Sony trying to impose a new media format on us
Not only is the price offensive, but Sony's insistance on the stupid BluRay in every system is another perfect example of Sony trying to impose a new media format on the market. Just a little tip, BluRay is not going to make it just the same way that Sony's media stick, AIT, and multiple other media formats have failed. BluRay is what will kill the Play Station line. Microsoft could not have planned a better way to take over this industry.
Posted by duke442games (3 comments )
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so SAD!!
what is sad is the fact they will still sell in spite of the insane prices.... i would love to see this stupid move hurt their sales the way it should but i fear this will put only a minor dent in the sales they will enjoy. it's wrong!!! buy a computer for that price!! yeeesh
Posted by jeffhesser (102 comments )
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PS3 is cheaper than gaming PC, but many of us have to factor in an HDTV set
Sure, it IS optional, but it seems to be a real lose to buy such a beefy gaming console and not use the HD graphics. Going with that, that'll easily run you another $1000+ righ there
Posted by ackmondual (199 comments )
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Sony Must Be Completely Mad.
Sony must be completely mad to charge such a price for a damn
high-tech toy. Playing cd/dvd's/ are for home systems which
most people have if they can afford a game console.
I know there are some serious gaming nerds with money out
there.
But to the rest. It's just way too much for a stupid machine that
plays kids games. $600.00 to play games and lets not forget
the video games them selves which are going to cost more or
less the same thing. Anybody spending that much money to
play kids games are completely lost in a virtual world of
unreality.
Proberly 20 to 35 years old, living with their parents and doing
nothing with their lives.

Sony knows what their doing.

Later.

Nino Nice.
The real world is much better.
Posted by Nino Nice (22 comments )
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what a worthless post...
OMG....you are such an imbesol. Why exactly are you so angry at Sony for making something so expensive that you apparently wouldn't buy anyway? lol I agree that the price point is extremely high. You are getting what you pay for but most people simply don't want all that in a game console. Big mistake by Sony. You rip gamers and state they live with their parents and yet your post is about as immature as they come. lol I'll give you this though....you made me laugh and I thank you for that. :)
Posted by badflounder (6 comments )
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Or...
maybe instead of playing games they post on C:net instead.
Posted by KsprayDad (375 comments )
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hmm since we're all 20-35 year old losers...
why exactly are you posting here? need to feel justified somehow? its ok if your life sucks.. mines pretty great right at the moment, because i don't live at home, i have a life outside of the internet, and i have a job. those are 3 things that posting troll messages on c:net will never get you.
Posted by thatxbxtchxnicoll (46 comments )
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Sony etc....
I just wanted to comment briefly on the sentiment in Nino Nice's post. I am not opposed to what was said, I merely want to convey a different perspective. I am a "gamer mom". There are many reasons for this. The primary reason is to become a part of what is important to my children. This is the world they live in. It is their culture, if you will. We do many things together - some are my favorites (library,and gardening)others are their's (baseball and gaming) I play with them, and for them. What I mean by the last part of that sentence is that I feel the best way to make a decision that is in their best interest is to understand first hand what the issue is. I rely on CNET for reviews, OPM for demos, etc. I feel that is the best way to parent this aspect of their development. Why do I play games with them? (and they are not stupid, in my humble opinion) The answer to that is simple... I love being with my boys. The games are fun, the graphics are wonderful, and our conversations flow like water from a fountain! At this time I cannot afford the cost of a PS3. If I were to put a price on the time spent with my boys, well... now we are talking priceless! My children are 10 and 13, I am 40 and have not lived with my parents in 20 years and work as an executive secretary. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, Nino, I just wanted to share mine.
Posted by rmrecchia (3 comments )
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The JournalistThat Lived Under A Rock
"That is a significant innovation that the Xbox 360 does not have, and it is not known if Nintendo's own forthcoming next-generation console, the Wii, will have similar functionality"

Mr. Terdiman, are you daft?

C|Net, fire this Terd. ...Sorry, couldn't resist.
Posted by Bob_Barker (167 comments )
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The JournalistThat Lived Under A Rock
"That is a significant innovation that the Xbox 360 does not have, and it is not known if Nintendo's own forthcoming next-generation console, the Wii, will have similar functionality"

Mr. Terdiman, are you daft?

C|Net, fire this Terd. ...Sorry, couldn't resist.
Posted by Bob_Barker (167 comments )
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This is a very unprofessional article. Get your facts right.
Theres something called RESEARCH! I would think this would be a given to any journalist out there. Their innovation was first revealed by Nintendo with their controller last fall. Though relying on somewhat different technology Nintendos own controller on the Nintendo Wii can do exactly what the PS3 controller does and MORE.
I wont go into if they stole the idea or not from Nintendo. However I do hope that the writer of this article avoids further embarrassment by getting the facts straight next time.
Posted by PlayBoxCube (1 comment )
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Mr. Terdiman got it right
There isn't enough information about the Wii controller. What I've seen so far little remote control thingy can register orientation. It's not clear if it detects motions. The two are different technology: one involves gyroscopes, then other involves accelometers.
Posted by Chung Leong (111 comments )
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Mr. Terdiman got it right
There isn't enough information about the Wii controller. From what I've seen so far little remote control thing can register orientation. It's not clear if it detects motions. The two are different technology: one involves gyroscopes, then other involves accelometers.
Posted by Chung Leong (111 comments )
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Wha!?!
Dude, you live in a gray world!
Sony laughed at Nintendo's controller at GDC.
Now they're the ones being laughed at.
They stole the idea plain and simple for everyone to see who is over the mental age of 12.
Stories like this will be, and have been, echoed throughout market.
This was predicted by every major game magazine as it is. Sony stole the idea of Nintendo's SNES controller, the analog stick, rumble feedback, and tons of software rip offs.
This is piracy of the worst kind.
Posted by judowaza (2 comments )
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Controller reference fixed
The story has been corrected to show that Nintendo has been working on the motion-sensing technology for some time now.
Posted by Jon Skillings (249 comments )
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LOL Where the hell have you been?
Its been known for over a year that the Wii will have motion sensors....



YOU NOOB LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Posted by kenlac--2008 (1 comment )
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600 bucks?! That's completely nuts!
With that kind of pricing, Sony is basically ceding the US market to Microsoft. People here are not going to pay this much for a video game console. Those who could afford it and care about 3D graphics would rather sink their dollars into their computers.

Microsoft can knock the legs from under the PS3 and they have the cash to do it. I can see a couple possible responses: (A) a substantial price cut, something like $30 or $40, or (B) replace the Core System with a new low-cost model that has a harddrive.
Posted by Chung Leong (111 comments )
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You're completely nuts!!!
People will pay $600 for this system. I will guarantee it. I commend Sony for making a leap in gaming and not just settling like Xbox did. What format are the games going to be in?? My bet would be BluRay. That would mean that the games would be longer and/or more detailed than an Xbox game could be. Also means that if the format doesn't catch on, Sony will STILL have a format for their games. The Xbox is proposing an ADD-ON drive to try to counter Sony. Do you think Sony is going to sell this HD-DVD add-on player for $200 or less? Will this Add-on player be used for Xbox games? I think not. You people should think before posting nonsense.
Posted by P_S_J (10 comments )
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controller not a ripoff
I just want to let everyone know that Sony's controller is not a rip-off of the Wii. Not only do both controllers use completely different technology (Wii with motion sensors set up next to the tv, and Sony with internal gyroscopes) but the purposes of the controllers are completely different. For the Wii, the motion sensing (senseing.... sensieing...) is a vital part of the whole console, whereas for the PS3, its simply a nice addition.
People were complaining that the demonstrator looked like he was having a really hard time working it, but reviewers that got hands on time with the controller said it felt very intuitive. The controllers will also be used differently because the Wii controller operates in 3d space, not simply motion. So the PS3 will not be able to be used for sword fights and the such
Most importantly to shut up the "Sony is such a copycat LOL OMG" jerks, Sony started developing the technology for a motion sensing (doesn't look right still) way back in 2003. To say that they coppied Nintendo, which revealed its controller in late 2005 I think (I have a bad memory) is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

No, you're probably right, Sony came up with a whole technology of gyroscopes, built a bunch of working prototypes, and implemented it into an incredibly advanced game in a few weeks in desperation.

Even if they did copy Nintendo, which they didn't, So what? That's what advancement is, taking other people's ideas an improving upon them. And if you're gunna cry about it, don't use it, I won't mind. Would you have rather just had a PS2 controller with nothing different? It seems stupid to complain when all they did was add in a pretty cool feature.
Posted by thick.as.a.brick (5 comments )
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well someone supports sony
I've been reading a few websites/forums/blogs since this announcement and you are the first and only person I have seen that is defending sony.

I just thought that was interesting.
Posted by (14 comments )
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Warioware Twisted
You're right, it's not a rip-off of the Wii controller. It's much simpler like Warioware Twisted for the gameboy advance.

They've been working on tilt monitoring since 2003? It's a pretty simple technology. Any hobbist electronics guy can get a system running in a few days.
Posted by databyss (20 comments )
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Wii did it first.
If anything, then Sony ripped off Nintendo for the motion sensitivity idea. Granted, Sony's controller has nowhere near the same functionality of the Wii controller; it only detects tilt where as the Wii-mote detects 3d movement.
Posted by aznboilee (1 comment )
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Nintendo's innovation....Sony followed suit
Nintendo was first to announce motion sensing technology for their new controller. It's common knowledge among those who keep up with video game news that Nintendo announced it in September 2005.

Their announcement that their controller would have motion-sensing technology sparked quite a lot of interest in the gaming community. Personally, I don't think that Sony would have bothered with it if Nintendo had not first "tested the waters" with their announcement.

Sony shouldn't be credited with this innovation.
Posted by underivy (3 comments )
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Nintendo's innovation???
You've got to be kidding me.

My MS Freestyle controller from *1998* does this, and I'm not even saying MS was first.

They just beat Nintendo and Sony to it by years and years.
Posted by KTLA_knew (385 comments )
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Tardiman. Get your facts straight.
Fact of the matter is that Nintendo implemented the motion sensing tech into it's controllers first. It's been know for over 6 months!! lol. Where do you get your info bro?
Posted by Andross_88 (11 comments )
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Controller reference fixed
The reference to Nintendo's work on the motion-sensing technology has been corrected.
Posted by Jon Skillings (249 comments )
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Backlash ucomin!
So true....
Sony copied every bit of their controllers from Nintendo.
I watched the press conference. Sony even had the gall to refer to this as an original innovation. Thier faces told a different story though. It's as if they were expecting the crowd to laugh or something.

With such a high price point, underwhelming graphics, and a cheap ripoff of Nintendo ingenuity, I do believe this is the beginning of the end for Sony as the giant of this market.

Hopefully ppl won't buy it on principle alone!
I hate nasty business ppl!
Posted by judowaza (2 comments )
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So no 360 either?
Or is it ok to support Microsoft who has ripped off billions from their customers year after year?

I'm not saying Sony hasn't srewed up alot lately, but they are nowhere near as bad as MS.

I don't see Sony doing anything wrong here. The tech for the controller belongs to the ones who patented it. If it's different tech, it's a different patent. One or both may even be licensing from a third party. Is every computer that has a keyboard ripping off the first typewriter company? Sheesh!

The controller is not a major part of the system anyways, that's the Cell, 1080p and BD drive. It may seem pricey, but that along with the Wifi, HDD, RAM and graphics chips is a lot of hardware to pay for.

I will reserve judgement until these are actually shipping and I see an in-depth review.
Posted by freemarket--2008 (5058 comments )
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hi sony, my name is tlite and i'm your worst nightmare
why? because i will buy a PS3 and never buy one game to play on it. Not one. Why would I do such a thing, you ask? Well, I am so glad that I won't have to pay $1000+ for a Bluray DVD player and that you are undercutting all of your DVD player partners out there just for folks like me. You hope that no one figures this out besides me either, I'd guess. My guess is that they will. And if HD-DVD wins, I'll be able to ebay my PS3 to some pasty skinned kid who has never seen daylight and recoup some of my costs...nice! hope you don't lose your shirt on this deal...
Posted by tlite722 (160 comments )
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You have to think past Step One....
Sony does not care. It is counting on getting the Blu-ray into as many homes as possible via the PS3. Sony will make a fortune in licensing revenue if people start buying movies in Blu-ray format.

However, if what I'm hearing about the PS3 not having an HDMI output is true, it ultimately won't work with protected media for high-definition playback. Be careful it really has what you're looking for before you lay down the cash for it.....
Posted by underivy (3 comments )
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You have to think past Step One....
Sony does not care. It is counting on getting Blu-ray into as many homes as possible via the PS3. Sony will make a fortune in licensing revenue if people start buying movies in Blu-ray format.

However, if what I'm hearing about the PS3 not having an HDMI output is true, it ultimately won't work with protected media for high-definition playback. Be careful to make sure that it really has what you're looking for before you lay down the cash for it.....
Posted by underivy (3 comments )
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You have to think past Step One....
Sony does not care. It is counting on getting Blu-ray into as many homes as possible via the PS3. Sony will make a fortune in licensing revenue if people start buying movies in Blu-ray format.

However, if what I'm hearing about the PS3 not having an HDMI output is true, it ultimately won't work with protected media for high-definition playback. Be careful to make sure that it really has what you're looking for before you lay down the cash for it.....
Posted by belialle (2 comments )
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journalist doesnt know Wii has motion sensing & more? who does cnet hire?
what a lie. you know very well he knows that Wii has the same functionality and A LOT MORE.

this is corporate favoring and its totally obvious. CNET has just lost a long time user
Posted by heyheyhohoho (1 comment )
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Wii reference fixed
The story has been corrected to say that Nintendo has long been planning motion-sensing for its controller.
Posted by Jon Skillings (249 comments )
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Blatant misinformation, CNET. CNN covered this story better (link within)
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/08/technology/ps3_pricing/index.htm" target="_newWindow">http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/08/technology/ps3_pricing/index.htm</a>

Title of CNN article:

PlayStation 3 prices: $499 and $599

New gaming system will go on sale in U.S. on Nov. 17 with two hard-drive sizes, mimics Nintendo controller
Posted by belialle (2 comments )
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It's over.
Nobody will spend $499.99 on a console, regardless.

Sony neve went about $299.99 for a launch, and there's a good
reason for that in the past.

Xbox 360 is struggling, with a high price and Dreamcast-type
games on it (not content, marketing style), people are looking at
it (the common man that Nintendo keeps talking about) and are
saying, "Nope, I don't care." Strangely, they'll come into my
GameStop and buy four or five ten dollar PS2 or GameCube titles
on a whim.

Like in comics, fanboys don't count. The don't make any money.
They are 1% of 1% of 1% of 1% of the gaming dollar and
audience. Many of them troll GameSpot, CNET, and other such
websites, to quickly crap on anybody bashing them and their
religion.

Get a life, boys.

$500 or $600 is stupid. There's a war on, and despite reporting
on the economy, it's not so great where I stand. Many people are
either jobless or working jobs that don't really pay too great,
just get the ends to meet.

Besides, look at some terrible failure of consoles that came in at
such a high price: 3DO ($800), Jaguar ($400), Saturn ($400),
LaserActive ($1200), CD-i ($500), Neo-Geo CD ($400), and a
TurboGrafx-1 with the CD ($500+). In Saturn's case, the Sega
fanboys could not save it, no matter what. Mainly because they
didn't shell out the big money.

And who remembers talks about PS2 and Xbox being failures
throughout 2002? I heard it all, especially from gamers and the
common man who came into the GameStop (newly renamed
back them). Even at $300, both consoles didn't sell too well till
the price game down to $200, then took off. During 2002, and
our SKU/UPC scans back us up as a company, we sold mostly
GameCubes and what was left of the Dreamcast. We had to warn
most people that the Dreamcast was cancelled and to not expect
too many games to be released, if any at all. Most people were
like, "What's the difference?"

I posted in another PS3 story Sony needs to get in cheap.
Consoles, traditionally, have always been cheap, $300 being the
make-or-break point. Nobody is saying you need to see a billion
units, and nobody has (59 million total consoles sold spread-out
between Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox and GameCube, not the false
numbers claimed only by the companies).

Good luck to Cocky, I meant, Sony. Thanks for pulling a Saturn
on themselves.
Posted by fakespam (239 comments )
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Market Determines
Your comments are good but you make the big assumption that there is a "static" price point. Not only has there been a number of years that have passed since the PS2 came out, and thus the "real" value of the dollar been changed, but the market doesn't buy only according to a "fixed" price. It buys also according to value. I have no doubt that the PS3 will sell very well simply because of the Blu-Ray player. People spend thousands of dollars on gaming PCs and those people alone drive demand for the newest graphic cards which, by themselves cost as much and more than the PS3. In fact the SLI feature of drving two video cards makes it even more expensive than that.
For me personally, this machine is a much better value than the XBOX 360. The market for the PS3 will be smaller initially for the PS2 just because of the requirements to utilize it (there are not 70M households that have HDTVs -- the PS2 sold 70M+ consoles), but it will gain traction as prices for those products come down as well.
Posted by Awesomebase (134 comments )
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OK everybody take a deep breath and relax!
OK OK i know this is gonna cos me trouble so think beforre you
write back. Yes Sony stole the idea of the motion snesitive
controller from the Big N (but frankly who doesn't turn their
controller as you try to get that car round that damn hairpin?).
I digress, all people are whinging about is the price. £410 for
the 60GB and £350 for the 20GB (I'm from the UK OK?). Now
could somebody do be a favour and look at the price of a
Toshiba HD-DVD player just on it's own! I bet it costs something
similar if not more and it only outputs at 1080i. My point is this:
Sony is not just supplying a games console, it is supplying a
multimedia hub for the home. You get a games console, the
most powerful one ever produced, a blu ray DVD player, capable
of 1080p output (games are also capable of this i believe), a free
online service if we are to believe current stories, numerous
connectivity options for additional hardware and hardware types,
and additional items such as wifi, ethernet connections, USB
etc...In short be grateful for what you are getting. Sony didn't
have to do this, they're the worlds leading console manufacturer
with 103 million PS2 consoles sold to date, and they have future
proofed their new box to within an inch of it's life! Don't think
about it short term think long run...you'll never have to buy
another box for under the TV for years to come.
My final point is this at least Sony put everything together for
one big push. They have to if blu ray is to succeed and the price
is largly due to the cost of blu ray technology. Would you have
been any happier if they had done what Microsoft did with the
360 and charge you an additional extortional rate for addon's
that they didn't put into their console in the first place (wi fi
antenna, HD-DVD player?). Quit throwing your controller down
in a hissy fit and look forward to some spectacular tech like
most ppl do
Posted by Angelfire1982 (6 comments )
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Maybe I should pass
I was going to get one of these, but the $100 price diff between the 20G version and the 60G version is a bit much considering you can buy 250G drives now for only $90

The biggest turnoff though was the plug for EA with: "new version of "Madden NFL," "NBA" and "Tiger Woods PGA.""

/please/ tell me for $600 I can do something more interesting than play next years version of the same games that have been out since Sega Genisis?

A lack of original games is the reason I didn't buy an Xbox 360.

PS. The reviewer did short change Nintendo in this review.
Posted by Dachi (797 comments )
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Not just the 60G HDD
As stated several times above, the low-end (kinda) version will not have HDMI output, WiFi or be able to read memory cards. So if you want all of those, it's probably worth the extra 100 bucks.
Posted by freemarket--2008 (5058 comments )
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600 is cheap
Most of you must have e-machine computers. I paid 600 for the graphics card in my computer, 800 for the processor, 600 for memory, 220 for the raptor hard drive, 200 for the sound card - on and on, and you think the ps3 is expensive? The newest graphics card by nvidia for a computer runs about 500 and the nvidia graphics sub-system in the ps3 is the equivalent of two of those cards and that's just the graphics system. For the technology they have included in this box, the price is a steal. A similar gaming experience on a full computer would run well into the thousands.
Now, you'll go back to your original nintendos and leave the serious gaming to us big boys.
Posted by rick7069 (27 comments )
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WHAM! ...and he hits the nail on the head!
I totally agree with this guys comment. If you want a PS3, don't complain and groan about the price tag, start saving now.
Posted by SolarisGuru (1 comment )
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Another view
I'm won't aruge that PS3 isn't a bargain in some respects. You can argue that it's got Blu-Ray, it's got a 60GB hard drive, it's got wifi, and it's got the most powerful graphics processing available to home consumers. All for $600? You're right, rick, that's not too bad.

But I don't think like that. I think, "A new video game system for $600!? Outrageous!" You could tell me that the system can drive me to work at it costs less than a car, but I don't really care--I just want to play games. $600 to play some games is a lot of money. At least with a computer you can do a lot more than just play some games.

Oh and what is Sony thinking by not including HDMI in the $500 version... $500 PS3 = No wifi, no HDMI, and no memory stick... but still 500 bones...haha....anyone that buys the $500 version will be a sucker.
Posted by *Porter* (14 comments )
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Not really
Not after you consider that all the games start at $55 and most of them are just new version of old stuff.

PS3 + 10 games = $1150 + tax

That is expensive when you consider you are playing mostly the same games that were out for the original Play Station but with better graphics.

I think I would rather spend the extra money to beef up my next PC.
Posted by Dachi (797 comments )
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sucker born every day
the fact that you dropped that much on those parts for your computer says two things; you have too much money, and you don't do the research before you buy. so the fact that you call that a bargain just proves there's a sucker born every day. and i have some snake oil i'll sell you for a steal! it cures everything and makes you smarter.
Posted by jeffhesser (102 comments )
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You my sir...
are completely daft. First off, you spent way too much on your parts, and I feel bad for you. Second, you're comparing a computer to the PS3, which has so so much more functionality... I can't even register the comparison. I'm not like you, and only play games on my PC... I sure hope you don't.

Lastly... Big boys like you? Right. Real video gamers play the classics, respecting them for thier gameplay, rather than being a graphics ***** and only playing the state of the art games. Being wealthy, and being a big time gamer, are completely different, don't you dare look down on people who will have a hard time swallowing the cost for this system. I myself, plan to buy this system regardless, but some people can't just be throwing 600$ around, have consideration.

Mistuh Chi
Posted by Rawnchie14 (125 comments )
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Money isnt a thing to you, is it?
Just because the PS3 is less than the cost of its parts, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS AT A GREAT PRICE POINT. Every console is sold this way. Sure it's a steal, but at $600, they're banking on a few things, like hype.

All the kiddies got to come out and post as soon as console stories bust out.
Posted by dewalt25 (57 comments )
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Couldn't agree more
I see a lot of ranting and raving because Xbox will become obsolete once this hits the shelves. The technology in this thing is a quantum leap forward in console gaming. If games are being developed in BluRay, it will blow Xbox away. I am certainly buying one.
Posted by P_S_J (10 comments )
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Hard Drive Upgrade Pricing
Hmmm. Is there more difference between the 20-GB and the 60-GB models than price? I ask because a new Seagate SATA notebook 60-GB hard drive costs less than $84 retail at buy.com. And that's without the "trade-in" value of the 20-GB drive.

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.buy.com/prod/Hitachi_TravelStar_5K100_hard_drive_60_GB_SATA_150_0A26923/q/loc/58952/201668792.html" target="_newWindow">http://www.buy.com/prod/Hitachi_TravelStar_5K100_hard_drive_60_GB_SATA_150_0A26923/q/loc/58952/201668792.html</a>

mark d.
Posted by markdoiron (1138 comments )
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Pricing is in line with Xbox 360 pricing, Same price in the end....
the top Xbox 360 lacks a HD DVD / Blueray player for that price as well as some of the other features. Microsoft is reportedly going to offer a add-on HD DVD player for the 360 but they haven't released a price for it yet. Industry experts estimate that even taking a good loss on the drive that MS will have to sell it for around the $200 US range. So there will really be no difference in the end for an equal set-up between the two systems.
Posted by dheadley (18 comments )
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Well, In A Twisted Sort of Way, Yes ...
In a twisted sort of way you may be right. But it's twisted because game consoles that provide movie playing have never done very well at that--the user interface is always poor. And since it should be obvious that Sony is having to cut corners to get this product to market, one of the most obvious places is in movie playback. I suspect that it's capability will be about as mediocre as the PS2's.

That's just a guess, of course. I could be wrong. But one thing I'm certain I'm not wrong about is the impact of user experience on sales: Just ask Apple as they laugh all the way to the bank with their iPod sales profits! :-)

mark d.
Posted by markdoiron (1138 comments )
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Not really...
I'm not being forced to buy HD-DVD in the case of Microsoft's xbox 360. Sony is forcing Playstation 3 customers to finance their BLUE RAY licensing campaign. If Microsoft releases an HD-DVD player I won't need it to play games only for watching Movies. There is no guarantee that Developers are going to produce GAME content that will require the storage capacity of either BluRay or HD-DVD. As far as movies are concerned You will always be better off with a dedicated Movie player than some type of hybrid. The PS3 like the PS2 will be a compromise between it's primary function "GAMING" and the secondary function "Watching Movies". The Movie experience will suffer when compared to dedicated Bluray and HD-DVD players. In the end it's all about the games and while Sony will attempt to win the HD Format war by counting PS3 sales it may not matter if HD-DVD moves the same amount of movies with possibly fewer players. Hard core gamers play TV more than they watch it and in the end BLURAY may still lose out if most of it's audience are PS3 customers who would rather spend 60$ on FinalFantasy ??? than spoend $30 the BLURAY release of a movie they already have on DVD.
Posted by Captain-Atari (80 comments )
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Not True...
The HD-DVD is not necessary to play games and will only be used for Movies on the 360, so you cannot include this in the price against the PS3. Most gamers will not want a HD-DVD drive. However, you MUST have the expensive Blu-Ray drive included in the PS3 to play games. You will also see the cost of Blu-Ray leak into the cost of game media as well. Although, Sony will soak most of those costs for at least a year.
Posted by umbrae (1073 comments )
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not true - not true
By the time the ps3 is released, hi-def dvd's will be spreading rapidly on the market and with the samsung blue-ray player hitting at 1400, the ps3 will not only be a great video game machine, but it will also be a logical choice for any home entertainment system. The proliferation of hi-def tv's is also rapidly spreading and many, many people can't wait for the opportunity to take more advantage of their high-dollar investments and will buy the ps3 just for the cheap blue-ray player alone. And, now that they own a cheap blue-ray player, why not take advantage of the game system that came with it for free.
You under-estimate the value of the new player in driving sales in the future and also in making blue-ray the new hd-dvd of choice, winning the new standard war.
Posted by rick7069 (27 comments )
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PS2 history lessons
I remember reading about the PS2 before it came out. The review from a technological standpoint was that the hardware blew everything else out of the water but was a nightmare to program. I'm assuming we'll see the same thing with the PS3. If history is any lesson, Tretton is right about the long-term and the PS3 is not going to be priced too high. Remember, people said the same thing about the iPod: no one would pay such a high price for an MP3 player. I admit it's not the greatest comparison because there weren't any good MP3 players at the time and the Xbox is a decent system. Still, it shows that consumers will swallow the cost if the value justifies it. If the tech advance in the Playstation 3 is anything like the advance from the Playstation 2, then Sony is absolutely doing the right thing.
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