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Cassara said that their system begins with a set of predefined places and things that, when encountered by users, offer alternative choices based on their ratings and preferences.
Then, she said, the system asks each user to rate the things he or she comes across, each of which gets added to the database.
"So we quickly get a database with ratings and associations," Cassara said. "All of this is based on crowd-sourcing."
Still, while several projects are aimed at making search better in Second Life, it's hard to know how optimistic to be.
But there's no doubt that Second Life users want a search system that works as well as something like Google.
And now that Linden Lab has made the Second Life client software open-source, a decision that allows anyone to make improvements to the existing system, Walsh thinks that the ultimate solution could come from anywhere.
Regardless, he thinks that a solution is necessary.
"Second Life by its nature is a place where every object is already tracked, so it's a shame not to be able to find exactly what we are looking for," Walsh said. "I don't really want to wander around a virtual mall actually browsing the shelves. I'd rather type in a search query and get a smart list of matches."
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Posted on: February 23, 2007, 1:41 PM PST
The big problem is that SL isn't integrated with the web. If it was, the Search problem would be solved, by Google.
The BIG problem is that SL is new and different and this scares people. All the other problems - like poor search - will be solved by those who preceed the masses. Now shut up and let Daniel do his job.
SL is a private subnet, a server farm using Internet plumbing but not the web. Metadata systems for the web are plentiful, user tagging systems are everywhere, even the laboring semantic web that was the last darling is further along than what the SL entrants are discusssing.
The fact is nothing about SL really is novel and the problems being discussed have already been solved. It is the business model that relies on a closed system that prompts the need to reinvent the wheels such as search systems. The implications of that to the customers, investors and owners should be obvious.
All that said, there are far more interesting possibilities for searching in 3D worlds than are being discussed here or in the contest submissions.
Posted on: February 23, 2007, 1:41 PM PST
The big problem is that SL isn't integrated with the web. If it was, the Search problem would be solved, by Google.
The BIG problem is that SL is new and different and this scares people. All the other problems - like poor search - will be solved by those who preceed the masses. Now shut up and let Daniel do his job.
SL is a private subnet, a server farm using Internet plumbing but not the web. Metadata systems for the web are plentiful, user tagging systems are everywhere, even the laboring semantic web that was the last darling is further along than what the SL entrants are discusssing.
The fact is nothing about SL really is novel and the problems being discussed have already been solved. It is the business model that relies on a closed system that prompts the need to reinvent the wheels such as search systems. The implications of that to the customers, investors and owners should be obvious.
All that said, there are far more interesting possibilities for searching in 3D worlds than are being discussed here or in the contest submissions.
This SL fuffery is getting real old... SL is nothing more than a ad
and marketing moguls wet-dream to get lifeless gamers to feed
them buzz words they can sell to ad clients. THAT SIMPLE.
Any pretense deeper than that is a lie. A REAL ONE.
This SL fuffery is getting real old... SL is nothing more than a ad
and marketing moguls wet-dream to get lifeless gamers to feed
them buzz words they can sell to ad clients. THAT SIMPLE.
Any pretense deeper than that is a lie. A REAL ONE.
2nd life is nothing special or new or hot:
1- Who wants to download a 40MB software package which changes every few weeks requiring another download of the darn thing
2- It is slow, slow & slow
3- Why put up with this download & slowness when all 99% of people want to do is chat in a place like 2nd life. There are plenty of great chat software which offer Avatar chats and movement and are instant to access, as the best example check out SiteSticky:
www.sitesticky.com
which offers Avatar chat with Voice over IP, something that 2nd life still does not offer.
2nd, if one wants a 3d world to enter then one wants to play, one wants action games, and to
see how this is done right check out World of Warcraft:
www.worldofwarcraft.com
3rd, There were many 3D chat worlds before 2nd life, such as BlackSun, OZ, etc. they all
failed because of the reasons listed above. That is after 1 hour of chatting in a 3D world,
it becomes BOARING and certainly not worth the bother of ever downloading the software
again and waiting for it to load and being slow, so if people want to chat they will go to sites
that are powered by instant chat products such as Sitesticky, if they want to play they will
go to World of Warcraft places.
The question then becomes why this continuos non ending Hype of 2nd life by Cnet and the rest of its BigMedia machinery! Answer: They have stock in 2nd life and are hyping it for an IPO so they can dump their stock on the public or have a Google like company buy it. Whatever it is, please stop it with this non-ending almost daily Hype of 2nd life & Web 2.0 :(
2nd life is nothing special or new or hot:
1- Who wants to download a 40MB software package which changes every few weeks requiring another download of the darn thing
2- It is slow, slow & slow
3- Why put up with this download & slowness when all 99% of people want to do is chat in a place like 2nd life. There are plenty of great chat software which offer Avatar chats and movement and are instant to access, as the best example check out SiteSticky:
www.sitesticky.com
which offers Avatar chat with Voice over IP, something that 2nd life still does not offer.
2nd, if one wants a 3d world to enter then one wants to play, one wants action games, and to
see how this is done right check out World of Warcraft:
www.worldofwarcraft.com
3rd, There were many 3D chat worlds before 2nd life, such as BlackSun, OZ, etc. they all
failed because of the reasons listed above. That is after 1 hour of chatting in a 3D world,
it becomes BOARING and certainly not worth the bother of ever downloading the software
again and waiting for it to load and being slow, so if people want to chat they will go to sites
that are powered by instant chat products such as Sitesticky, if they want to play they will
go to World of Warcraft places.
The question then becomes why this continuos non ending Hype of 2nd life by Cnet and the rest of its BigMedia machinery! Answer: They have stock in 2nd life and are hyping it for an IPO so they can dump their stock on the public or have a Google like company buy it. Whatever it is, please stop it with this non-ending almost daily Hype of 2nd life & Web 2.0 :(
Find something else to report rather than these easy news stories you are fed by linden labs.
KieranMullen
Find something else to report rather than these easy news stories you are fed by linden labs.
KieranMullen
Find something else to report rather than these easy news stories you are fed by linden labs.
KieranMullen
Find something else to report rather than these easy news stories you are fed by linden labs.
KieranMullen
I've long doubted it. It's just a business, not a news source, right?
I've long doubted it. It's just a business, not a news source, right?
Let anybody submit anything (bookmarks, content, places, news, photos, videos, Web index feed, RSS feeds, ...). Ala Eurekster, Searchles, Del.icio.us, Jimmy wales future collaborative engine, yoople, Digger, Simpy, eSnip, Shadows, Sproose, Wink,
Let anybody tag, vote, comment, report. Ala Digg, MSN reporter, Reddit,
Add a collaborative ranking algo to surface personalized relevance ala Eurekster.
Select guides to help folks search, find, and discover stuff. Ala StumbleUpon, Flock
Add vertical, community-based engine like Rollyo, Yahoo or Google custom search, Lijit.
-arnaud
- Social search perfect for Second Life
- by arnaudfischer February 28, 2007 5:27 PM PST
- It seems to me that a social search engine would be perfect, including both i) collaborative directory building and ii) Discovery engine.
- Like this Reply to this comment
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (34 Comments)Let anybody submit anything (bookmarks, content, places, news, photos, videos, Web index feed, RSS feeds, ...). Ala Eurekster, Searchles, Del.icio.us, Jimmy wales future collaborative engine, yoople, Digger, Simpy, eSnip, Shadows, Sproose, Wink,
Let anybody tag, vote, comment, report. Ala Digg, MSN reporter, Reddit,
Add a collaborative ranking algo to surface personalized relevance ala Eurekster.
Select guides to help folks search, find, and discover stuff. Ala StumbleUpon, Flock
Add vertical, community-based engine like Rollyo, Yahoo or Google custom search, Lijit.
-arnaud