A new version of Apple's iTunes software released Monday addresses a number of compatibility issues with Microsoft's Windows Vista, but a few problems remain.
The updated version supports the upcoming Apple TV product and includes an improved album-sorting feature, but still does not fully support Windows Vista. The new download, iTunes 7.1, is available on Apple's Web site.
When Vista arrived at the end of January, Apple told Windows users that iTunes was not yet ready for Vista because of compatibility issues. In the most dire scenario outlined by Apple, users could corrupt their iPod simply by plugging it into a Vista PC running iTunes. Problems were also reported with playing back content purchased from the iTunes Store on Vista PCs, Apple said in early February.
The new version fixes several of those issues, but a few outstanding issues remain and Apple is working with Microsoft to finish the job, said Derick Mains, an Apple spokesman.
One problem that needs to be resolved is that ejecting an iPod using the "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the system tray could result in a corrupt iPod; Apple recommends that users always eject their iPods within the iTunes software. Also, iTunes is not supported on the 64-bit versions of Vista, and contacts from the Windows Address Book may not sync properly to iPods.
More information about the remaining problems, as well as tips for getting iTunes to work properly with Vista, can be found in this document on the Apple site. Apple does not have an exact time frame for when the remaining issues will be corrected, Mains said.
Microsoft's deployment of Windows Vista has run into problems with application compatibility and driver availability, frustrating some users who have made the early move to the new operating system. Businesses aren't expected to do so until much later, after they've made sure all of their internal applications will play well with Vista.
There's no excuse for Apple not having this product ready by this point. iTunes runs on more Windows machines than there are computers in the entire installed Mac base. That tells me Apple is ignorant of their priorities. I've got two iPods and Vista x64, not to mention all of my 25,000 songs are encoded in AAC, so this needs to get fixed.
Sorry, but it seems to me the OS manufacturer has at least some responsibility for insuring compatibility with the most widely distributed audio jukebox on its platform. Don't they test this stuff with other applications?
Most beta testers indicated that iTunes worked with Vista. But when the final release came out, everything broke. Vista and IE 7 have been disasters as far as compatibility is concerned -- it's the main reason why so many companies have foresworn upgrading at the moment (along with the onerous hardware requirements).
It's not Apple's fault that MS threw in so many land mines. I suspect they're just as pissed as everyone else at MS's latest "work in progress."
Unlike MS, Apple actually gives a crap about ease of use and the customer experience.
There's no excuse for a competing company to hold out on products so Microsoft doesn't make more money?! OUTRAGEOUS! But really, there are sooo many other things that aren't compatible with Vista.... It's not just iTunes...
A few years back Real went before Congress and testified that the latest Microsoft OS purposely broke their code. A few months later, it was revealed that it was Real's poor code that was at fault. The same is happening here, rather than point the finger at poor Apple code, everybody wants to blame MS. One of the issues is that calendar data does not sync properly. What could MS possibly do to cause music to sync OK, but not calendar data?
Vista has compatibility issues, but the Apple fans, rather than question if iTunes is possibly at fault, they immediately blame MS.
but even Microsoft had programs that wouldn't run on Vista when it was released. For example, Vista wasn't supported on Microsoft SQL server until about 2 weeks ago.
It could be Apple's fault, but odds are it's a Vista problem.
Don't need Apple for nothing, thank you! People ask me and my wife how we are able to listen to music on our phones, and get email and use Outlook and cruise the Web, to name a few. We tell them to go out and get a Windows smartphone or PocketPC phone. And that Microsoft's had this for years, unlike the vaporware called iPhone!
so most people much prefer to have an iPod and a regular cell phone. The handful of overpriced music files you have can't begin to compare with the millions of songs available for an iPod, not to mention videos, tv shows, movies and podcasts. Apparently, you can't miss what you can't measure.
You are always anti-Apple, no matter what it is. You also are not known for responding to people who comment on your posts. You fart in the room and keep on walking.
A question for you. Why do you believe the iPhone is vaporware?
Please bother to look up words you don't know before you use them. In particular, you clearly have no idea what the term "vaporware" means, though this is hardly surprising, seeing as how your past post have clearly evinced you as horribly uninformed, if not simply an idiot.
Lots of folks here are eager to blame Apple or Microsoft based on little more than who they like better. But I haven't seen any actual information on whether Microsoft changed important support late in the development cycle, whether the corruption is due to a Vista driver bug or Apple code, or even what the exact nature of the problem is.
Personally, I suspect most of these are Vista issues, since 1. eject from within iTunes works, so we know Apple can write code that works, 2. iTunes works great on XP, which is theoretically compatible, while Vista is a 1.0 product, 3. Apple has pretty sharp engineers, and they wouldn't jeopardize their iPod market by not fixing this stuff, while 4. Microsoft has every motivation to want to break iTunes and it's been proven (in court) that they're willing to use this kind of tactic.
But I don't have any real information either. So really, it's up to journalists to do a little more than regurgitate PR speak and report on factual information instead of just posting this kind of story.
The first comment to step back from the "holy wars" with a fairly objective opinion. And pretty much sums it up. Never forget that both MS and Apple are Large Corporate Entities, and they pursue their own self interest. It is usually for to the ultimate benefit of customers...
Point 4. doesn't make any sense. MS didn't break iTunes. In fact it sounds like using iTunes is the only safe way to use your iPod. Using the Vista method is what causes the damage. If I owned an iPod (hell no!) I would be leary of using any MS option and would absolutely install and use the iTunes method, so this will actually drive people to iTunes, who might have otherwise not used it. (We know most iPods contain very little iTunes purchased material anyway.)
First I ask this question. Does anyone have any shred of evidence that MS did something with the final build to stop Itunes from working?
We do know that MS has gone out of their way to help software companies make Vista compatible with their applications?..why should they do otherwise. Microsoft has all kinds of FREE support options for software vendors to help them make their applications Vista ready. For Pete?s sake it was out for almost a year to the public. They had so many downloads they had to cut it off.
We also know that Apple has publicly warned people not to upgrade to Vista if they have an Ipod, and so has Symantec?.both companies don?t want Vista to succeed.
I personally think that in the case of some software and hardware vendors they use Vista as a way to exploit users into buying a new piece of hardware/software when they could easily provide a free driver or software patch. This happened to me with Nero. I had to buy a new version to work with Vista. I cant even tell what is different?visually or feature wise. Good thing I bought it off of Ebay for $6. HP is famous for not supporting printers that might be a year old by not coming out with a driver or support software for months?.hoping you will just by another printer.
This all happened with XP as well?.. <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2003p018id78073.htm" target="_newWindow">http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2003p018id78073.htm</a> "In fact, not supporting a new operating system is a tactic used by some manufacturers in order to get you to upgrade your current product. Microsoft released an avalanche of technical details, driver guidelines, and beta software to manufacturers a full year before Windows XP shipped in order to give them as much as lead time as possible. In a random survey of legacy (pre-2001) printer and scanner drivers available for XP, we noticed a definite support trend that favored the higher end (and higher profit) devices and left entry level models (or those commonly given away with Win95/98 PC's) unsupported?
Apple had the time to make Itunes work with Vista, they chose not too. They will fix the problem not MS?but they had to create some FUD for the script of their next lame Mac vs PC commercial. Thank God for DVR?s.
Not a shred of evidence to support this contention
Besides the fact that you do not have a shred of evidence to support this contention, the facts of the matter are that, first, iTunes worked fine with the betas, which obviates your first point, second, Apple does not have similar motivations to Symantec, since they LOSE market by not releasing drivers, and third, the fact that improper device syncing can trash your iPod's directory files makes Apple's advice far from self serving, baseless conspiracy theories aside. As other's have pointed out, without specific information about what is happening, your speculations regarding responsibility are vacuous at best.
Is Vista still around? I believe so. Let me check- ah yes, it's up and running now. Let me check my snow white G3 iMac- damn, unhappy Mac face. I have to reinstall the OS. Sorry, can't check that one currently.
Is Vista still around? I believe so. Let me check- ah yes, it's up and running now. Let me check my snow white G3 iMac- damn, unhappy Mac face. I have to reinstall the OS. Sorry, can't check that one currently.
- Yet another reason (as if we needed one) NOT to upgrade to Vista. - Yet another reason (as if we needed one) NOT to use iTunes. - You could simply count the replacement cost of your damaged iPod in the upgrades required to run Vista. You're likely to bleed money in the upgrade process anyway... - I'm not a Vista user, but I'm guessing that P2P, BitTorrent, et al do not have the same compatibility issues. I bet they just work. I don't care if it's MS or Apple's fault, but this kind of 'screw-the-customer crap' is a huge part of the reason "pirates" still do what they do.
Because most OS X apps did not break due to the change to Intel! Sure, non-universal apps run slower, but I haven't had any problems other than speed.
Also, Microsoft is "helping" Apple to fix a problem that was created by the final version of Vista. So much for Microsoft's famous backwards compatibility!
Is that they are never really happy unless they're engaged in d1ckwaving. Oh my syustem is better than your system. I have more ram! My computer is older than yours and it still beats the panst off what you have! I have a giant monitor. Oh you have that piece of crap? I'm so sorry for you! You think I'm wrong? You must be retarded/a shill/insane/a fanboy. MY OS IS PERFECT! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!?!?!
And the funny thing is that it doesn't even matter what the original reason is for the bickering. It always follows the same boring inane pattern - even this post is just part of that never ending cycle.
Progress happens, compatibilty suffers, compatibility is regained. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Getting upset about it is like getting upset that the wind blows or that the tides rise and fall.
I installed the 7.1 update, and ITunes now consistantly crashes the entire computer anytime it runs. This is even worse than 7.0.2, since it at least didn't cause my computer to crash.
iTunes crashed my Vista Business computer as soon as a video download completed. I accidentally found a temporary solution. Set iTunes to save the downloaded video onto a removable media device (I used a 4 gb SD card plugged into my laptop's card reader). I then downloaded a video, it completed without crashing, played without crashing, and I could close iTunes without any error messages. It seems the problem has to with saving the files to the hard drive. Hopefully a future iTunes version will fix it.
DO NOT USE iTUNES OR QUICKTIME ON YOUR WINDOWS VISTA OR WINDOWS XP COMPUTER
DO NOT download or use APPLE's ITUNES FOR WINDOWS VISTA OR WINDOWS XP!
The saying "There is No Such Thing as a Free Lunch" couldn't be more true in the case of iTunes/Quicktime from Apple Inc.
iTunes& Quicktime for Windows contains Spyware -- software used to track usage of your computer and alter its operation. In addition, running these programs on Windows Vista can often crash your computer.
Personal information is transfered by Quicktime/iTunes, without your knowledge, to Apple computer, and its marketing partners, over the Internet.
IF YOU ALREADY HAVE iTUNES OR QUICKTIME INSTALLED ON YOUR NEW DESKTOP COMPUTER OR LAPTOP YOU CAN REMOVE IT BY GOING TO THE "PROGRAMS AND FEATURES" CONTROL PANEL (in VISTA), OR IF YOU ARE USING XP, BY GOING TO THE "ADD/REMOVE SOFTWARE" CONTROL PANEL.
How Apple's spywhere scheme works: Since at least the year 2000, the Quicktime (and now iTunes) installer from Apple installed several programs, without the user's permission or knowledge, which permanently altered the user's Windows system. In my case, I tried removing some of the components, but still, each time I visit ANY website that has Quicktime support, something installed by iTunes causes a couple of invisible background processes (qttask.exe and ituneshelper.exe) to get installed in my computer's Startup Programs list and launched. The claim for "ituneshelper.exe" is that it "required" for burning CD's, but it does not make sense why you need an INVISIBLE BACKGROUND PROGRAM running on your system 24 hours a day just so you can burn CD's once in a while. No other CD burning software has such a requirement. The other program "qttask.exe" is also spyware with apparently no other purpose. WHEN THESE PROGRAMS AUTOMATICALLY CONNECT TO APPLE'S SERVERS, BEHIND YOUR BACK, APPLE USES YOUR IP ADDERSS, AND OTHER INFORMATION TRANSFERRED TO APPLE FROM YOUR COMPUTER, TO PERSONALLY IDENTIFY AND TRACK YOU ON THE INTERNET FOR MARKETING (AND OTHER) PURPOSES. APPLE INC. HAS A HISTORY OF SUCH ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS CASES WHERE REGULAR EMPLOYEES USED THE INFORMATION GATHERED FROM MILLIONS OF COMPUTER USERS TO STALK PEOPLE.
I have since switched to alternatives (see below), but I was still stuck with Apple's spyware for weeks before I was able to remove it.
ALTERNATIVES TO APPLE'S QUICKTIME/ITUNES SPYWARE ================================= IF YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO PLAY QUICKTIME (AND OTHER TYPES) OF MOVIES, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD "VIDEOLAN" FROM <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.videolan.org/" target="_newWindow">http://www.videolan.org/</a> VIDEOLAN PLAYS QUICKTIME AND MOST OTHER FORMATS IN EXISTANCE INCLUDING DVD, MPEG ETC.
As far as music downloading service goes, there are many many alternatives including MusicMatch.com, Rahpsody.com, etc...
Okay, this is bad for me too. Although I don't have an iPod, I have to use iTunes for my phone. I have a Sony Ericsson W810i and it only accepts AAC and MP3.
However, I use WMP11 for music playback.
This sucks for me because I have the cash to buy a good Vista laptop but I'd still have to use my old one.
But there is no reason you should blame Microsoft. I mean the Realplayer thing was proved to be false.
For all we know, iTunes may be the one at fault here. Come on, iTunes hate Windows Media Player. Windows Media Player has more users than iTunes.
You iPod people really need to get a playsforsure player instead. It's so much cheaper to get legal downloads with WMP11 (URGE subscription) than iTunes.
Come on, Apple hates the fact that Vista is great; it could be a conspiracy or something.
Think of all the possibilities.
If you'd remember, there was a time when there had been reports of tons of iPods that had viruses in them and can only be activated through a PC and not a Mac.
I'm no MS lover, but place blame where blame is due. Steve Jobs continuously blasts MS for not getting products to market fast enough. Well, Steve, look in the mirror my friend. Vista has been available in various test forms for over a year for developers and users. The old Win32 APIs still work and the new ones have been published for months. Apple really has no excuse for itunes not being ready.
iTunes was working on the betas. Something in the final release of Vista broke it. While Apple could be quicker in issuing a fix, it is not entirely their fault.
OK, unlike the rest of you, I have an actual problem
It seems that in the newest refresh of iTunes, they've made it impossible to edit the artist/title/album information for all my MP3 format music. Seems that Apple thinks I'm not the kind of person who would like to edit this information for any sort of reason. If anybody can offer an actual solution to this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Guess I should include the fact I'm running this under Vista.
(It's a good thing I use a dual-boot system... XP sure won't be getting this "upgrade" any time soon, and I thought iTunes 7.0.2 was possibly the worst program I EVER saw. Unstable, horrible sound quality, didn't deliver on ANY front!)
I am using iTunes 7.1 on Intel Mac and I can't edit artist information for MP3 files, although I it seems to be working for AAC files. I agree with you. iTunes 7 is by far the worst iTunes upgrade ever, buggy and bloated.
You might need to make sure the metadata tags are written in the latest version. First, make a backup of everything. Then go to the advanced tab in iTunes and select "Convert ID3 Tags." Now your editing may work again.
As for the problems you are having, be sure to send bug reports to Apple. They actually read them and work on the things that are most serious and/or widespread. These problems you are experiencing may be due to interaction with other programs you have installed, but it will still help to report them.
You can also go to the Apple support forums at apple.com.
itunes 7.1 still not working "audio config" error!
I got my Windows Vista HP laptop over a week ago and installed all my needed software including itunes 7.0.2 and everything worked fine!! (surprisingly) Tonight I downloaded 7.1 after being recommended by apple that it is Vista friendly but now all I get is the "audio config problem"!! I'm rather livid as it was working fine before.... is anyone aware of a fix?
I run Win2k, (for some good reasons) on a standard well spec'd dell laptop. I had Itunes 7.0, and have just upgraded to 7.1 The audio config problem is presented at startup. I cannot seem to fix it. I don'tknow about Vista, .. but there's nothing wrong with the audio on this machine. I have 4 other pro-audio apps which have no problem...
I am having similar problems and it's driving me around the bend. I got a brand new HP Touchsmart PC fully loaded with Vista, downloaded I Tunes 7 and I didnt have any trouble at all and I thought great! Now I downloaded the latest 7.1 and it will not work. I cannot see the video or the movies (the sound plays ok) and when it does play it jumps from frame to frame. I am also having trouble ejecting the ipod now which i did not have before. Strangely enough if you transfer the movie files on to another hard drive they play perfectly. I am wondering whether there is a problem with Quick Time and Vista. I have uninstalled it and reinstalled but still not working. Apple please help us out here, I virtually have a brand new computer which I cannot use to its full capacity, the most annoying thing being it was working well before the latest update.
The bottom line is that both companies--whether or not they're in competition with each other--had a vested interest in iTunes running well on Vista when the public release occurred. It's clear from all the comments that plenty of people are ticked off at the incompatibility, whether or not they blame MS or Apple. Finally, as an iPod lover and a fan of using both OS's depending on the application, it really stinks to not be able to sync my iPod without bluescreening my PC. Fix it, guys!!
iTunes 7.1.1.5 kept on crashing Vista ultimate, until I checked off the box "Manually Manage Music and Videos" - not crashing any more...not the best solution, but it seems to be working now
Tried to use new version of iTunes; still does not run on Vista Home Premium. Always searching for a solution. Have installed/reinstalled, cleaned registry and other left behind garbage. Still no go.
A real disgrace on Apple's part. A 'perfect storm' of Apple blaming the Windows Vista for their problems.
Ex: Just bought a new laptop, working perfect except when I try to sync my iphone to the itunes software that comes with the computer (#8) I believe it is. I still have my old laptop with XP. The sync works perfectly on the XP but not the Vista.
I thank my lucky star to have found this out before I bought a new iphone. Never happen now, I'm looking at the Pre and the Storm and advising friends not to touch any Apple product.
I don't understand why Apple wastes resources playing around with the "look" and extra features of itunes when they can't even make its primary function work in Windows. With this same computer, I used to be able to play songs fine in itunes, but the last 2 versions have been absolute crap.. I am able to access the itunes store, and LOOK at my songs, but can I play them? No, of course not. I really hope itunes soon comes out with a version that actually plays music. :/
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responsibility for insuring compatibility with the most widely
distributed audio jukebox on its platform. Don't they test this
stuff with other applications?
Most beta testers indicated that iTunes worked with Vista. But
when the final release came out, everything broke. Vista and IE 7
have been disasters as far as compatibility is concerned -- it's
the main reason why so many companies have foresworn
upgrading at the moment (along with the onerous hardware
requirements).
It's not Apple's fault that MS threw in so many land mines. I
suspect they're just as pissed as everyone else at MS's latest
"work in progress."
Unlike MS, Apple actually gives a crap about ease of use and the
customer experience.
Vista? It's not just Apple...
But really, there are sooo many other things that aren't compatible with Vista.... It's not just iTunes...
I'm fine with my XP laptop for now,
Vista has compatibility issues, but the Apple fans, rather than question if iTunes is possibly at fault, they immediately blame MS.
It could be Apple's fault, but odds are it's a Vista problem.
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=268" target="_newWindow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=268</a>
known for responding to people who comment on your posts. You
fart in the room and keep on walking.
A question for you. Why do you believe the iPhone is vaporware?
Well, what say you?
them. In particular, you clearly have no idea what the term
"vaporware" means, though this is hardly surprising, seeing as how
your past post have clearly evinced you as horribly uninformed, if
not simply an idiot.
A PocketPC based device that doesn't crash? Now that's what I call vaporware!
Personally, I suspect most of these are Vista issues, since 1. eject from within iTunes works, so we know Apple can write code that works, 2. iTunes works great on XP, which is theoretically compatible, while Vista is a 1.0 product, 3. Apple has pretty sharp engineers, and they wouldn't jeopardize their iPod market by not fixing this stuff, while 4. Microsoft has every motivation to want to break iTunes and it's been proven (in court) that they're willing to use this kind of tactic.
But I don't have any real information either. So really, it's up to journalists to do a little more than regurgitate PR speak and report on factual information instead of just posting this kind of story.
The first comment to step back from the "holy wars" with a fairly
objective opinion. And pretty much sums it up. Never forget that
both MS and Apple are Large Corporate Entities, and they pursue
their own self interest. It is usually for to the ultimate benefit of
customers...
...but not always.
MS didn't break iTunes. In fact it sounds like using iTunes is the only safe way to use your iPod. Using the Vista method is what causes the damage.
If I owned an iPod (hell no!) I would be leary of using any MS option and would absolutely install and use the iTunes method, so this will actually drive people to iTunes, who might have otherwise not used it. (We know most iPods contain very little iTunes purchased material anyway.)
We do know that MS has gone out of their way to help software companies make Vista compatible with their applications?..why should they do otherwise. Microsoft has all kinds of FREE support options for software vendors to help them make their applications Vista ready. For Pete?s sake it was out for almost a year to the public. They had so many downloads they had to cut it off.
We also know that Apple has publicly warned people not to upgrade to Vista if they have an Ipod, and so has Symantec?.both companies don?t want Vista to succeed.
I personally think that in the case of some software and hardware vendors they use Vista as a way to exploit users into buying a new piece of hardware/software when they could easily provide a free driver or software patch. This happened to me with Nero. I had to buy a new version to work with Vista. I cant even tell what is different?visually or feature wise. Good thing I bought it off of Ebay for $6. HP is famous for not supporting printers that might be a year old by not coming out with a driver or support software for months?.hoping you will just by another printer.
This all happened with XP as well?..
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2003p018id78073.htm" target="_newWindow">http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2003p018id78073.htm</a>
"In fact, not supporting a new operating system is a tactic used by some manufacturers in order to get you to upgrade your current product. Microsoft released an avalanche of technical details, driver guidelines, and beta software to manufacturers a full year before Windows XP shipped in order to give them as much as lead time as possible. In a random survey of legacy (pre-2001) printer and scanner drivers available for XP, we noticed a definite support trend that favored the higher end (and higher profit) devices and left entry level models (or those commonly given away with Win95/98 PC's) unsupported?
Apple had the time to make Itunes work with Vista, they chose not too. They will fix the problem not MS?but they had to create some FUD for the script of their next lame Mac vs PC commercial. Thank God for DVR?s.
support this contention, the facts of the matter are that, first,
iTunes worked fine with the betas, which obviates your first
point, second, Apple does not have similar motivations to
Symantec, since they LOSE market by not releasing drivers, and
third, the fact that improper device syncing can trash your iPod's
directory files makes Apple's advice far from self serving,
baseless conspiracy theories aside.
As other's have pointed out, without specific information about
what is happening, your speculations regarding responsibility
are vacuous at best.
- Yet another reason (as if we needed one) NOT to use iTunes.
- You could simply count the replacement cost of your damaged iPod in the upgrades required to run Vista. You're likely to bleed money in the upgrade process anyway...
- I'm not a Vista user, but I'm guessing that P2P, BitTorrent, et al do not have the same compatibility issues. I bet they just work. I don't care if it's MS or Apple's fault, but this kind of 'screw-the-customer crap' is a huge part of the reason "pirates" still do what they do.
iTunes does not cause problems running other software, so I see no reason to not use it.
Microsoft gets slammed because Apple can't work out issues over 3 months... the article states Apple IS WORKING WITH Microsoft to get it all fixed.
So Microsoft IS HELPING Apple, go re-read before you make replies.
Also, Microsoft is "helping" Apple to fix a problem that was created by the final version of Vista. So much for Microsoft's famous backwards compatibility!
From your *Ignorant* rant, I can see you fantasize often.
For the record, ALL Mac apps work fantastically under the new
Intel chips. End of story.
I use them every day on both older Power PC and Intel Chips and
they run great.
Ask my how my PC apps do on my one-month old HP with Intel
Core 2 Duo under Vista -- Now that is another topic all
together.
d1ckwaving. Oh my syustem is better than your system. I have
more ram! My computer is older than yours and it still beats the
panst off what you have! I have a giant monitor. Oh you have
that piece of crap? I'm so sorry for you! You think I'm wrong?
You must be retarded/a shill/insane/a fanboy. MY OS IS
PERFECT! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!?!?!
And the funny thing is that it doesn't even matter what the
original reason is for the bickering. It always follows the same
boring inane pattern - even this post is just part of that never
ending cycle.
Progress happens, compatibilty suffers, compatibility is
regained. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Getting upset about it is like getting upset that the wind blows
or that the tides rise and fall.
They purposely made Vista not work with iTunes.
Apple doesn't everything it can to create the best user experience, but MS does everything it can to prevent people from enjoying computers.
Wake up Microsoft!
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The saying "There is No Such Thing as a Free Lunch" couldn't be more true in the case of iTunes/Quicktime from Apple Inc.
iTunes& Quicktime for Windows contains Spyware -- software used to track usage of your computer and alter its operation. In addition, running these programs on Windows Vista can often crash your computer.
Personal information is transfered by Quicktime/iTunes, without your knowledge, to Apple computer, and its marketing partners, over the Internet.
IF YOU ALREADY HAVE iTUNES OR QUICKTIME INSTALLED ON YOUR NEW DESKTOP COMPUTER OR LAPTOP YOU CAN REMOVE IT BY GOING TO THE "PROGRAMS AND FEATURES" CONTROL PANEL (in VISTA), OR IF YOU ARE USING XP, BY GOING TO THE "ADD/REMOVE SOFTWARE" CONTROL PANEL.
How Apple's spywhere scheme works:
Since at least the year 2000, the Quicktime (and now iTunes) installer from Apple installed several programs, without the user's permission or knowledge, which permanently altered the user's Windows system.
In my case, I tried removing some of the components, but still, each time I visit ANY website that has Quicktime support, something installed by iTunes causes a couple of invisible background processes (qttask.exe and ituneshelper.exe) to get installed in my computer's Startup Programs list and launched. The claim for "ituneshelper.exe" is that it "required" for burning CD's, but it does not make sense why you need an INVISIBLE BACKGROUND PROGRAM running on your system 24 hours a day just so you can burn CD's once in a while. No other CD burning software has such a requirement.
The other program "qttask.exe" is also spyware with apparently no other purpose.
WHEN THESE PROGRAMS AUTOMATICALLY CONNECT TO APPLE'S SERVERS, BEHIND YOUR BACK, APPLE USES YOUR IP ADDERSS, AND OTHER INFORMATION TRANSFERRED TO APPLE FROM YOUR COMPUTER, TO PERSONALLY IDENTIFY AND TRACK YOU ON THE INTERNET FOR MARKETING (AND OTHER) PURPOSES.
APPLE INC. HAS A HISTORY OF SUCH ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS CASES WHERE REGULAR EMPLOYEES USED THE INFORMATION GATHERED FROM MILLIONS OF COMPUTER USERS TO STALK PEOPLE.
I have since switched to alternatives (see below), but I was still stuck with Apple's spyware for weeks before I was able to remove it.
ALTERNATIVES TO APPLE'S QUICKTIME/ITUNES SPYWARE
=================================
IF YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO PLAY QUICKTIME (AND OTHER TYPES) OF MOVIES, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD "VIDEOLAN" FROM <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.videolan.org/" target="_newWindow">http://www.videolan.org/</a>
VIDEOLAN PLAYS QUICKTIME AND MOST OTHER FORMATS IN EXISTANCE INCLUDING DVD, MPEG ETC.
As far as music downloading service goes, there are many many alternatives including MusicMatch.com, Rahpsody.com, etc...
Napster is also back.
However, I use WMP11 for music playback.
This sucks for me because I have the cash to buy a good Vista laptop but I'd still have to use my old one.
But there is no reason you should blame Microsoft. I mean the Realplayer thing was proved to be false.
For all we know, iTunes may be the one at fault here. Come on, iTunes hate Windows Media Player. Windows Media Player has more users than iTunes.
You iPod people really need to get a playsforsure player instead. It's so much cheaper to get legal downloads with WMP11 (URGE subscription) than iTunes.
Come on, Apple hates the fact that Vista is great; it could be a conspiracy or something.
Think of all the possibilities.
If you'd remember, there was a time when there had been reports of tons of iPods that had viruses in them and can only be activated through a PC and not a Mac.
This is soooo an apple thing.
I need a new phone. lol
Vista broke it. While Apple could be quicker in issuing a fix, it is
not entirely their fault.
Have a nice day!
(It's a good thing I use a dual-boot system... XP sure won't be getting this "upgrade" any time soon, and I thought iTunes 7.0.2 was possibly the worst program I EVER saw. Unstable, horrible sound quality, didn't deliver on ANY front!)
the latest version. First, make a backup of everything. Then go
to the advanced tab in iTunes and select "Convert ID3 Tags."
Now your editing may work again.
As for the problems you are having, be sure to send bug reports
to Apple. They actually read them and work on the things that
are most serious and/or widespread. These problems you are
experiencing may be due to interaction with other programs you
have installed, but it will still help to report them.
You can also go to the Apple support forums at apple.com.
Have a nice day!
Tonight I downloaded 7.1 after being recommended by apple that it is Vista friendly but now all I get is the "audio config problem"!! I'm rather livid as it was working fine before.... is anyone aware of a fix?
import your music from the backup folder. Possible fix, yes. Easy
fix, no.
I had Itunes 7.0, and have just upgraded to 7.1
The audio config problem is presented at startup.
I cannot seem to fix it. I don'tknow about Vista, .. but there's nothing wrong with the audio on this machine. I have 4 other pro-audio apps which have no problem...
I use a freeware program for now, but I want to get iTunes to work at some point !
Ex: Just bought a new laptop, working perfect except when I try to sync my iphone to the itunes software that comes with the computer (#8) I believe it is. I still have my old laptop with XP. The sync works perfectly on the XP but not the Vista.
I thank my lucky star to have found this out before I bought a new iphone. Never happen now, I'm looking at the Pre and the Storm and advising friends not to touch any Apple product.
Lesson learned.
Herb Lipton
Crashed my computer nothing is working