March 23, 2006 8:58 PM PST

Microsoft: Office 2007 to be late, too

Fresh on the heels of a delay in broad availability of Windows Vista, Microsoft confirmed late Thursday that it is also pushing the mainstream launch of Office 2007 to next year.

As with Vista, Microsoft hopes to finish the code for Office 2007 this year. The company said work will be completed by October, when it will make Office 2007 available to business customers that have signed up for Microsoft's volume-licensing program.

And, again like Vista, Microsoft plans to ship retail and original equipment manufacturer versions of the product in January.

"We believe this will provide an easier experience for consumers and retailers alike," a Microsoft representative said in an e-mail to CNET News.com.

Microsoft announced the Vista delay Tuesday. With the twin postponements, the PC industry's holiday season is shaping up to be quite different than the one originally expected. Microsoft has said it doesn't expect the Vista delay to dent PC sales in the fourth quarter, but analysts have largely disagreed.

Microsoft is making major changes to Office, which will feature all-new XML-based file formats, as well as a completely overhauled user interface, among other changes.

By pushing out the Office launch date, however, Microsoft will regain the ability to launch the two products in tandem. Microsoft had been planning a massive fourth-quarter launch for the products.

Earlier on Thursday, Microsoft announced that it would make Office head honcho Steven Sinofsky the leader of a new Windows and Windows Live development group. Microsoft said Sinofsky will work with Microsoft Business Division President Jeff Raikes in the coming weeks to help determine who will lead the Office business after his move.

The change in launch timing for Office 2007 was noted earlier Thursday by JupiterResearch analyst Joe Wilcox on his Microsoft Monitor blog.

Microsoft in November had released an initial test version of Office 2007, then known by its Office 12 code name. A broader test version is planned for this spring.

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What a surprise!
Ha, doesn't surprise me one bit. I can't believe that the richest man
in the world makes money of this crap. Not only does Microsoft
make faulty software, but they take a LONG time in making it.
Microsoft is trully one of a kind. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple
gets a big lead this year, being that I dont think alot of people want
to buy new PCs with a 5 year old OS
Posted by mcobian (14 comments )
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To be fair...
Apple won't take a big lead but might take a bite. You're right
though about people not wanting to buy a new PC with a 5 year old
OS...but they will.

I don't think the average consumer knows or even cares about
Vista. They'll snap up the latest POS from Dell and think they got a
good deal completely oblivious to the fact that it's "Windows
Performance Rating" is a 3.
Posted by egarc--2008 (28 comments )
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Compatibility
It's because, unlike Apple, they try not to break things with every
release. Apple leaves old software by the side of the road (want
to run an OS 9 program on an Intel Mac).

And of course it will be 2007 before Adobe updates CS to Intel -
which is an incredibly important program in the Mac market.

The real question is which stance benefits the consumer. I think
it might actually be Apple's. There are few PC programs that
make use of XP, but a substantial number of Mac programs
make use of Tiger. MS is better for developers.

Whether it will cause anyone to switch : It's applications like iLife
that do that, rather than the Dashboard.
Posted by JulesLt (110 comments )
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Makes Sense
I really can't think of a major version of Windows that didn't ship with a new version of Office as well. The only one that comes to mind is 98, which was accompanied with Office 97. Other than that, every Windows came with an Office, even going back to 3.1.
Posted by sanenazok (3449 comments )
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Do people still upgrade Office? Office 97 works fine for me!
I still see no reason to upgrade, unless Microsoft can make Word type automatically.
Posted by bobby_brady (765 comments )
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Done.
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA010565111033.aspx" target="_newWindow">http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA010565111033.aspx</a>
Posted by nhandler (79 comments )
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For the typical Office user.....
... MS hasn't improved a thing since Office 97.
Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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I still use Office 97 too.
I still use Office 97 too. I've seen newer versions of Excel and see no reason to upgrade.
Posted by lingsun (482 comments )
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Office 97/98 for me too
I use Office 97 and 98(for Mac). I see no reason to upgrade. That would make me one of the Dinosaurs in the Office ads.

The upgrades we're doing is to OpenOffice as we get more PCs.

Now that's an upgrade! Opens corrupted Word documents, creates .pdf etc. and its free. Get it at <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.openoffice.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.openoffice.org</a> and guess what? there's even a new version 2.0.2. There will most likely be several new versions again before Office 2007 really ships.

Those who really need Excel get our remaining Office licenses and we give Open Office to everyone (even those with MS Office). Open Office is now in our standard configuration
Posted by Maccess (610 comments )
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Apple!
Why should Apple be the one to make a byte? They don't have anything compeling to sell. They sell nice boxes with a nice GUI and that's about all.
Posted by orfeu_niko (104 comments )
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Re: Apple!
Hmmm, well that depends. In terms of Office, you're right. iWork
has a (long) way to go - though it is nice for its intended purpose
and I perfer Keynote to PowerPoint (as do many others). In terms
of Vista, however, a *very* different story. As had been stated
several times before, no where does there exist a better multi-
media suite of applications than iLife. Since that appears to be
about the only thing left in Vista (besides the fancy new GUI and
security that should have been there to begin with) I'd say Apple is
quite compelling.
Posted by sd1004 (6 comments )
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re Apple!
"They don't have anything compeling to sell. They sell nice
boxes with a nice GUI and that's about all."

Exactly! Nothing but a nice GUI and a pretty box. Well, OS X
already has all the features that Vista supposedly will have
(whenever it actually shows up)...but that's it!

A nice GUI, a pretty box, and all the features of Vista...and better
security. No need for anti-virus/trojan/malware software...but
that's it!

A nice GUI, a pretty box, all the Vista features, better
security...and iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, iWeb, and Garageband free
with a new computer purchase...but that's all!

A nice GUI, a pretty box, all the Vista features, better security,
iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, iWeb, Garageband...and Automator (which
puts a GUI on script writing so mere mortals can write complex
scripts for automating tasks), a 3d graphing calculator for
students, Frontrow media center software with remote...but
thats it!

A nice GUI, a pretty box, all the Vista features, better security,
iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, iWeb, Garageband, Automator, a 3d
graphing calculator, Frontrow media center with remote...and
Bonjour automatic network discovery, Apple Mail for email,
Safari for safe secure internet browsing with built-in RSS
detection, searchable summaries and organization, a dictionary,
thesaurus and address book integrated throughout the OS,
expose for window management, Dashboard for widgets, iChat
with video teleconferencing capability for up to 3 additional
people, parental controls, UNIX architecture with X11...but thats
it!

At least off the top of my head lol.
Posted by Terry Murphy (82 comments )
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Your name is I O Nut?
Seems appropriate.
Posted by J.G. (837 comments )
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Ignorance is Bliss
XCode, ever look at it? The run-time system is far more advanced than .NETs CLR. The IDE, is well, different, but guess what, it supports distributed builds. Can you say that about the .NET IDE, or Microsoft studio IDE?

XGrid, grid computing. Something everything is trying to get into. Apple just made it easy for anyone to create there own clusters, locally and remotely.

IChatAV ... gee, can't think of a single piece of Microsoft software that competes. By itself, I guess it's not a barnstormer. Oh but wait, every single part of OSX (iChat, SpotLight, Quartz, Core, Speech [recognition and synthesis], are available via the run-time system.

MSDN Universal Subscription app. 3k, Apple OSX Developer kit ... free.

Yeah, they have nothing compelling to sell if you know nothing about them. By the way, I am speaking from a grass-roots point of view.

From a consumers point, Parental Controls for Safari, iChat, iTunes, etc. Seamless integration for iTunes, GarageBand, iDVD, iMovie, Pages, KeyNote, Mail, iChat. Ever seen Automator? I created a scheduled backup, for project files, without typing a single line of code, not one.

You HAVE to be ignorant of the facts, if you even REMOTELY think that Apple has nothing compelling to sell.

Fricking incredible, or is it incredulous.
Posted by Thomas, David (1947 comments )
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Microsoft should learn to embrace and extend Open Source
The battle today is between Microsoft and the Open Source community. This is a battle between proprietary, license based software, and community, service based software. Innovation and cost advantages are definitely in the Open Source community. Microsoft needs to change its business model to embrace and extend open source and offer services. IBM is already successfully pursing this strategy with system software. Who will be first in desktop and consumer software?
Posted by (31 comments )
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Open source is worth what you pay for it.
Open source is worth what you pay for it. It's embraced by Microsoft haters and leftists who think don't believe in intellectual property rights. There really isn't any comparison between the two and there never will. People who work for free aren't going to be as good as those who get paid.
Posted by lingsun (482 comments )
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OpenOffice is Free
This just proves another reason to use a free package like OpenOffice. I get the software free, new versions are free, and it just works better. I have been running OO for approx 4 months now with no problems. No annoying assistants popping up. Also, the main reason I switched is the fact that I do not have to have Adobe Acrobat to create a PDF file anymore.
Some people say that OO just cannot be that good. Well, look at this way. MS delivers a product late and still expects you to pay $300 or $400 for it. Then you have to purchase Adobe Acrobat at a a cost of about $300 to create a PDF file. So those 2 programs cost about $700 total. OO costs nothing.
Posted by gnotellaluvr (16 comments )
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From what I have seen....
.... it is also worth nothing. Office blows it away, and Office sucks.
Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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Open office really sucks
Open office really sucks. It is very slow.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Microsoft Needs To Take More Time With Vista
When Windows XP SP1 came out, Microsoft talked over and over again about how much beta testing the operating system had gone through before it was released. Shortly after its release, Microsoft began receiving the first of what have become almost "weekly at least" and "daily at most" at times vulnerability issues or threats to the operating system. Thus, there have been a continuous litany of patches and updates to an operating system that had originally and supposedly been "thoroughly tested" prior to its release to the general public.

After the initial release of Windows XP (soon to be known as Windows XP SP1, the SP1 meaning Service Pack 1) there were finally so many patches and updates that an entire new CD had to be created and released called Windows XP "SP2." If anyone looks at the series of patches and updates released now, you will see that almost every one of them since the relase of SP2 has now been grouped into a list within the Installed Updates on Windows XP computers as "SP3!" And that list of patches and updates continues to grow monthly.

It does not ultimately surprise me (and I suspect many others who work on computers) that Windows Vista has been delayed until January 2007 (at least!) In the interim, I would hope that Microsoft would realize that unless they want Windows Vista SP2 through whatever someday, they need to update, patch, and test the operating system right up to the morning that they burn the CD or DVD. That way, we won't all be downloading 10 to 15 patches and updates as soon as we install the CD from the Windows Vista packaging. Microsoft needs to release a "final" version of Vista (operating system or office) that is as really up to date as possible!
Posted by kmat0015 (1 comment )
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60% of Vista to be rewritten
Figures office is going to be delayed. According to this article.. the
can't even get the OS right..

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computing/Platforms?Article=/" target="_newWindow">http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computing/Platforms?Article=/</a>
Computing/Platforms/R7G5G6U4

It's worth a read.
Posted by Jesus#2 (127 comments )
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SIXTY Percent!
They've already stripped out most new features originally promised when vista/longhorn was announced. I wouldn't have thought Vista could be 60% difference than XP.

So, let's see. Vista is now scheduled to be about three years late. Let's take a SWAG and say they have only been working on it for 36 months, and now need 60% more time to produce something they can call Vista. That's about 22 months, but they say they will have it ready by January.

Forget about the rule of waiting on SP1 to upgrade. IMO, that will be way too soon for this puppy.
Posted by rcrusoe (1305 comments )
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Gullible people swallow anything
That article is worthless and the author ought to be fired for using ridiculous figures. His "60%" quote utterly fails the "smell test".

Think about it for a second, how many lines of code are there in Vista? How much of that code is already established good code (eg: from the NT 3.1/NT 3.5/NT 3.51/NT 4.9/W2K/Server 2003 lineage)? A claim of needing to rewrite 60% of the code just doesn't ring true at all.
Posted by aabcdefghij987654321 (1721 comments )
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Witness the result of an unchecked monopoly
What incentive is there to get new products out in a timely manner, when MS squeezes money out of you regardless?
Posted by booboo1243 (328 comments )
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My Thoughts Exactly.
My Thoughts Exactly.

Where is the incentive for them to really improve their products?
Not only in a timely manner but quality wise as well?? They really
have no competition. Linux has less than 5% marketshare same
with Apple.

Microsoft knows they've locked up most of its customers. So
they could take their sweet time between product
announcements. Throwing us a bone occasionally to satisfy the
critics. Unfortunately those bones are just hype and hot air.

I mean the only reason they released XP was to have something
out to compete with Apple's OS X.. To hold public mindshare..
not because it actually was secure or great as it was being
touted.. cause it wasn't, when it was first released... actually I
never understood why they called XP, either..

Point is..

If we continue to reward MS by buying its products we will
continue to give them the power to dictate how this industry
moves (which is at a snails pace for them) and that doesn't bode
well for true innovation..

Could you imagine if they would have succeeded at buying
Google. We would have been in very big trouble folks cause they
would have messed that up too..

Well I say no more... as responsible pc consumers there is no
better time to start boycotting their products.. we have to start
somewhere.. or this industry will be standing still and not
moving forward..
Posted by ServedUp (413 comments )
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They're not a monopoly and you don't have to buy their products
They're not a monopoly and you don't have to buy their products. Aren't you aware that there are other office software suites and other operating systems out there? Anyone who thinks Microsoft is a monopoly is just ignorant.
Posted by lingsun (482 comments )
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Re: Witness the result of an unchecked monopoly
Do you have any idea how rediculous your post sounds? Only 'unchecked monopolies' have projects that take longer to finish up than expected? Jeesh, if thats the case then every company I've worked for was a monopoly. LOL.

The FACT is MS has no monopoly in office software, as the Open Office people will proudly remind you over and over and over and over again. If the delivery date is slipping, its because things are just taking them longer than expected. Development is not like stuffing envelopes where you know you can do X per hour. Release dates are just best guesses as to when you'll be able to release the product.
Posted by (402 comments )
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Try the new AjaxWrite
So far, I think it does everything MS Office does except spread viruses. <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.ajaxwrite.com/" target="_newWindow">http://www.ajaxwrite.com/</a>
Posted by booboo1243 (328 comments )
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I *tried* it
but ran into 2 major problems:

1 - It fell on it's ass due to capacity problems
2 - It only helps 10% of the world's internet population as it only works in Firefox
Posted by J_Day (2 comments )
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I *tried* it....
It DOES only run in FireFox, but even with FireFox, it didn't run.
Tried to open two MS WOrd documents. Runs sloweer than
molasses in December. Got some sort of Java error once.The other
times, it just stalled out.

Thus, it is no good at all. Might be a good idea for some, but I'll
pass on this one.

MS Office at least works.
Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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Re: Try the new AjaxWrite
I'd love to but... according to you MS is a monopoly, so in theory AjaxWrite shouldnt exist.

btw, it's rude to SPAM CNET's forums.
Posted by (402 comments )
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AjaxWrite very limited, try OpenOffice or StarOffice
If you actually bothered to do anything with it, you would see AjaxWrite by it's very nature is limited.

Say your internet goes out, now you lost your word processor. Some things are just not meant to work that way. Now if it hosted an applet or somethign that was pushed to the local machine and cached but then it wouldn't be AJAX now would it....
Posted by (2 comments )
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Real Artists Ship
Mac OS X is five (FIVE!) years old *today*. When Vista finally arrives
it is going to be nearly six years late cf to its nearest competitor.
SIX YEARS. Microsoft ought to be thoroughly ashamed of
themselves for such appalling tardiness in getting modern day
computing technology out.

Looking at how terrible they are making the Office interface, maybe
it isn't such a bad thing that it too is going to be late. 12 versions
and the UI it is still going to be utter rubbish. *12* versions.
Posted by No invasion of privacy (52 comments )
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Real Artists Ship
"Mac OS X is five (FIVE!) years old *today*. When Vista finally arrives it is going to be nearly six years late cf to its nearest competitor.
SIX YEARS."

It's nearest competitor? To me, it's nearest competitor would have more than 5% of the market. 5% is more like an "also ran." I'm sure MS is worried that Apple will get another percentage point or two during this lapse. &lt;rolls eyes&gt;
Posted by cptmcnair (66 comments )
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Real artists ship
Real artists ship when the program is ready.

If MS released office early, all the SAME PEOPLE ranting up a storm over the release date being postponed would instead be ranting up a storm about all the 'bugs' in the system and saying MS should have waited.

And anyone who's been on these boards for a while KNOWS I'm right.
Posted by (402 comments )
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The rest of the world surpasses US, UK as we wait on MS
India, China, Korea...So many other countries are moving forward with tech advances at blazing speeds embracing open source, while we wither technically as a country waiting on new Microsoft products. We are shooting ourselves in the foot people. It is time to wake up and assume resposibility for retaking our lead in the technical marketplace. For every MS product there is an alternative. Get off your lazy butt and at least try one and see if it fits you. OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, Word Perfect, AjaxWrite, the list goes on. You have no right to complain about tech jobs going overseas while you drive up the cost of business at home sponsering "tech terrorism" from Microsoft.
Posted by booboo1243 (328 comments )
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Try One?
How about writing them again!
Posted by Thomas, David (1947 comments )
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These products are great
for home users but they just don't cut it yet for corporate use. No matter how much you hate MS they still offer the best value for the money. For most corporations Office provides tight integration with other products as well as team collaboration. When you get out into the real world you will learn these things.
Posted by Charleston Charge (362 comments )
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Others are lame posers
The other 'office suites' are lame posers for MS office, at best. I use Open Office 1.x during the day. Its passible for me as I only need it to do very basic things. But in an environment that really relies on office software (say, a legal office), OpenOffice is nothing but a toy. I did install Open Office 2.x, but it was so slow and bloated that I just uninstalled it and went back OO1.

If the rest of the world wants to rely on a slow, cumbersome Open Office by choice or because of stupid laws - well good for them. Those that don't will have a nice small competive edge using MS office.
Posted by (402 comments )
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OpenOffice, StarOffice
There ARE alternatives. and they are improving.
Posted by technewsjunkie (1265 comments )
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Maybe,....
... but the last time I checked, neither were even minimal
competition to Office. Maybe in another year or so....
Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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I think that it might...
... be a very "nice" thing if some of the folks posting here to just step outside occasionally and breathe in some "fresh air" rather than choosing to bash MS since it is believe that nothing (nil, nada) that most of you have written or can say will influence the GA of the two delayed MS products in question; more so, what are your views doing for your own bottomline in that you are spending so much of your time bashing the company whose programmers have been in the "trenches" over the years since Gates bought "DOS" and improved upon it, he did not invent the "thing".

Here is someone shooting crap about "XCode, ever look at it? The run-time system is far more advanced than .NETs CLR. The IDE, is well, different, but guess what, it supports distributed builds. Can you say that about the .NET IDE, or Microsoft studio IDE?

XGrid, grid computing. Something everything is trying to get into. Apple just made it easy for anyone to create there own clusters, locally and remotely.

IChatAV ... gee, can't think of a single piece of Microsoft software that competes. By itself, I guess it's not a barnstormer. Oh but wait, every single part of OSX (iChat, SpotLight, Quartz, Core, Speech [recognition and synthesis], are available via the run-time system.

MSDN Universal Subscription app. 3k, Apple OSX Developer kit ... free.

Yeah, they have nothing compelling to sell if you know nothing about them. By the way, I am speaking from a grass-roots point of view.

From a consumers point, Parental Controls for Safari, iChat, iTunes, etc. Seamless integration for iTunes, GarageBand, iDVD, iMovie, Pages, KeyNote, Mail, iChat. Ever seen Automator? I created a scheduled backup, for project files, without typing a single line of code, not one." and yet with all of this 90% plus marketshare is reportedly using these MS "crap"; what is the explanation for this. Now; from the standpoint of certain international business interests... what can "iTunes, GarageBand, iDVD, iMovie, Pages, KeyNote, Mail, iChat..." do for those that are looking for functionalities that would address ERR, DCFROR et cetera, et cetera (if you do know what these are about), Why not stop bashing and develop your "own" products and have a significant percentage of the 90% plus market share start using your products! Why not explain to the thousands of GM workers who may be looking for "new jobs" soon how they can use your products beneficially. You can bet your bottom dollar that I may just be using and selling the products if they have got what I need. Get real folks!
Posted by Captain_Spock (894 comments )
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Lame posers are usually due to the loose nut behind the keyboard.
Try this...

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27292" target="_newWindow">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27292</a>

And stop complaining about a good thing. Or, try AjaxWrite. Maybe Word Perfect? I'm tired of getting my e-mail servers bombarded with viruses from Microsoft Office using losers.
Posted by booboo1243 (328 comments )
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MS tisk tisk time to start from scratch
The reason windows has had such problems with vista is the MS philosophy which is either "program less, charge more" or "troubleshoot less, charge more." Either is sufficient for microsoft. Not only is windows way overdue for an overhaul the whole DOS thing is retarded. Its like a severed, infected appendage just hanging there, i really wish they would just cut it off at least. I played around with some vista betas a few months ago, and all i can tell in a nutshell from it is that microsoft vista is just microsoft xp with a 3d desktop. Someone please correct me if im wrong. Moreso i think microsoft would like to retire from programming and just continue to charge people subscription fees. Not only does it charge people lots of money, it then uses them to beta test for free, and not only that they really didnt change anything beside the gui to begin with or they just stole the software from another company anyway, all of which under the pretense of caring and trying to "produce" great software. I say give me a break! I realize im exaggerating a bit, and i do mean only a bit, but seriously when the richest software company in the world produces relatively the most crappy software theres a problem. I think based on the plethera of money that microsoft has they could at least utilize it...maybe at half the efficiency of google, or would that be too much to ask?
Posted by aperson123456 (2 comments )
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MS tisk tisk time to start from scratch
The reason windows has had such problems with vista is the MS philosophy which is either "program less, charge more" or "troubleshoot less, charge more." Either is sufficient for microsoft. Not only is windows way overdue for an overhaul the whole DOS thing is retarded. Its like a severed, infected appendage just hanging there, i really wish they would just cut it off at least. I played around with some vista betas a few months ago, and all i can tell in a nutshell from it is that microsoft vista is just microsoft xp with a 3d desktop. Someone please correct me if im wrong. Moreso i think microsoft would like to retire from programming and just continue to charge people subscription fees. Not only does it charge people lots of money, it then uses them to beta test for free, and not only that they really didnt change anything beside the gui to begin with or they just stole the software from another company anyway, all of which under the pretense of caring and trying to "produce" great software. I say give me a break! I realize im exaggerating a bit, and i do mean only a bit, but seriously when the richest software company in the world produces relatively the most crappy software theres a problem. I think based on the plethera of money that microsoft has they could at least utilize it...maybe at half the efficiency of google, or would that be too much to ask?
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