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Cell companion chip gets hot demo

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PALO ALTO, Calif.--The Cell processor's developers want to make sure you never miss another TV show again.

Toshiba showed off a "super companion chip," or SCC, for the Cell that can record 48 separate MPEG 2 streams at once.

The chip, detailed at the Hot Chips conference taking place at Stanford University this week, is part of an effort by developers of the SCC and the Cell--IBM, Toshiba and Sony--to get the Cell into as many types of devices as possible.

The SCC is essentially a versatile, high-speed input-output port, according to Takayuki Mihara, an engineer with Toshiba. It receives regular and high-definition TV signals, audio and other data from set-top boxes, hard drives and similar items, and then forwards it to the processor.

"The Cell processor needs access windows to communicate with outside modules," Mihara said. "I think the Cell processor will be used in multiprocessor-centric systems such as digital TV. In reality, not many will try to record all that video at once, but it makes for a cool demo."

Cell engineers also emphasized that they designed the Cell processor--and its corresponding helper chips--to ensure smooth audio and video programming.

The Cell, for instance, partitions a single video image into five elements, which then get processed on three separate streams, said Ryuji Sakai of Toshiba. The chip also comes with a bandwidth reservation feature that can allocate bandwidth dynamically to different subcomponents of the chip. Better bandwidth scheduling leads to higher performance.

The SCC sports a wide array of input/output systems. A single chip comes with four USB ports, two serial ATA ports, four PCI slots and a PCI (peripheral component interconnect) express link, and its own memory. The SCC will communicate directly with the Cell chip over a Flex I/O link, designed by Rambus, which can pass 5GB of data per second each way.

Mihara said that the SCC would likely be included in computer systems and audio-visual equipment running Cell, but he did not specifically state which products the SCC would be used in.

Sony has committed to including Cell in the next version of the PlayStation game console. Toshiba, meanwhile, has said it will include the Cell in future TVs.

So far, one company outside the Cell triumvirate--Mercury Computer Systems--has announced that it will put the chip into its computers geared toward oil and gas engineers and other power users. Researchers and executives have said they will promote the chip for a variety of projects, and different versions of the chip will come out for different markets.

"This is not a single-application processor," said Michael Gschwind from IBM. "It will be used in consumer electronics, supercomputers, home servers ...We can span a whole range of devices with multiple flexibility."

Still, spreading the Cell message won't be easy. The chip is just out and a lot of programming work lies ahead, noted Kevin Krewell, editor in chief of the Microprocessor Report. Sakai got a laugh out of the audience when he concluded his presentation with, "Have fun programming on the Cell!"

Nathan Brookwood of Insight 64 also was puzzled by some features of the SCC. It uses DDR (double data rate) 2 memory. The Cell itself connects to XDR (external data representation) memory, a different architecture of memory developed by Rambus. In the end, that means two chips working closely together will use two different types of memory.

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The real truth behind the cell and PS3
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I dont put much faith in what anyone at valve has to say, dont get me wrong i dont hate valve, i just dont like steam and having to be connected to the internet just to play a single player game like you do in halflife 2.

Anyways subject at hand it is difficult for a company to program for next gen consoles at first and i believe most know that almost all next gen console hardware is never really fully utilized even when its life span is almost up, case in point the Sega Saturn system.

Sega's Saturn system was in alot of ways superior to Sony's Playstation because of Saturns parallel processing power, it has 2 hitachi sh1 cpu's but most companies found it very difficult programming a game to use both Hitachi SH1 cpu's, so most wrote code utilizing only one of the cpu's, it wasnt untill later much later that some game companies finally had some games that did use both cpu's and yeah the quality of the game was superior to those on PS1 but by that time it was a little to late as Sony had captured most of the Market.

To add a little more, Epic didnt seem to have a problem running the unreal engine 3 on Sony's PS3 Prototype Hardware and i know that they were working on that code before Sony even ever anounced the PS3... Im guessing that most companies wont be using all the cores in the cell chip to begin with even so as long as the quality of the game is good most people wont care, and i cant see were Valve would make anything of a deal out of this unless they were planning on scrapping HL2 code and rewriting it to use all the cores at once found in the next gen consoles.
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Newell is commenting more in regard to the Xbox 360, not the PS3.

Even so, they both do have the same problems that he describes. It is hard to write a multithreaded program due to syncronisation. The more threads the harder it is. But the bottom line is that it is the future (and not just on consoles) so he should just get over it and get back to coding.
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