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MSN Zone Gaming
Now I know why there will no longer be lobbies, MPlus's, zone friends, free card/board games,CD_ROM original versions - it's cause the money going to be spent ($2.4 billion even) on advertising online to compete w/Google and Microsofts own search engine. Who heck cares about the zoners? Noone at MS I guess. Well you know what - how many hundreds or thousands will u be losing due to this ugly change?????? Heck most people block pop-up advertising - it's a nuisance except maybe those who dont know how to, LOL.
Posted by mamamia350 (1 comment )
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Google is a verb
as much money as Microsoft has, they still haven't realize that Google is a verb and because of this will continue to grow at their expense.

I routinely tell my children to "google it" when I don't have an answer to a question.

If you have something you don't want any more you "ebay it"

none of this is new, I'm just suprised that MS went with "Live" for new brand...so old school. they need a verb.
Posted by df561 (94 comments )
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Well Let's See
People like to blame Microsoft for the spectacular collapse of Netscape, less we forget that once Microsoft started to compete full tilt, Netscape stopped innovating with their browser. We are talking about the company that gave us SSL for crying out loud, what did they do since then, except cry that Microsoft used it's unfair advantage. Every single company in the world does it when they have the oppurtunity. Apple has a monopoly on digital music with itunes, and does not allow any other player except the ipod to sync music. If Microsoft did that the comments would not cease about how unfair they are. The reality is that as long as Microsoft leads with it's windows OS they will be accused of bullying. Your assertion that Microsofts products do not get better, tells me you just really hate Microsoft as a company. windows, Office, Windows Server 2003 (which by the way is the leading server software by sales volume beating Linux and Unix), SQL Server 2005, Visual Studio 2005 to name a few have all improved over the years. Microsoft has had to learn how to balance development advances and tying that into its applications while learning that in the internet age and the connected era that we live in, software development requires tighter security. They will get it right, but to think that there is a magic bullet that will stop all Malware and Virus writers is a fools arguement. Most windows exploits are highly technical in nature and no matter what happens, there will always be smart people who use their power for evil. As long as Microsoft leads in popularity on the browser and desktop areas they will continue to be a target. Heavy is the head that wears the crown, because whoever leads will have to deal with the same issues. If I am a virus writer, why waste my time writing viruses for macs and linux boxes when everyone on my block is using windows, probably unpatched with no protection. Is that Microsofts fault. That is like driving a recalled car without getting it fixed and blaming the car company when something happens. I want Apple's market share on the desktop to increase, so we can debunk these theories about how safe Macs are. Macs used a different processor and Architecture (power pc) from PC's in the past, which means I must really want to write a virus or exploit for a Mac to do it. What is my financial gain...zip, the world runs on windows my friend, until someone else takes over, the attacks will never stop. By the way, now that Macs use the same architecture as PCs, writing a virus or exploit has just gotten that much easier..... As for competing with Google, it makes perfect sense, everything is moving to the web, and to stay relevant, Microsft has to be a web player. It can't cede control to Google or Yahoo, the web has driven PC sales more than anything else in recent times. I mean, email, ebay, digital music, search, web video, IM, voip, are all web activities, should Microsoft leave Google to rule cyberspace, only a poorly managed company would do that, and yes Microsoft must invest to play catch up it's really that simple. Microsft is spending 2 billion out of a reported near 40 billion cash hoard...i don't see the problem.
Posted by seankirk (31 comments )
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Well, Let's See Now
I mean, email, ebay, digital music, search, web video, IM, voip,", Seankirk, you could go on adding to this list, and it's doubtful that you will find Microsoft linked with any of these innovations. I repeat Microsoft has set up an ecosystem that exploits what others have developed. If someone comes up with a standalone product that is new, innovative, you can be sure that Microsoft will copy and load it on to its desktop package. The lone entrepreneur obviously does not have the wherewithal, or the support system to battle Microsoft, and before you know it, his enterprise has folded up and Microsoft carries on, regardless. And you are left without a choice.

But more pertinently, till a couple of years back, Microsoft was hung up on the Desktop.The doctrine according to Bill Gates was that the Desktop was the centre of computing. And if anything was not connected to Desktop Computing, MS would work to make it so.

The doctrine was nothing but a cover to legitimise a monopoloy that many had started questioning. And Microsoft did make a serious effort to bend applications to fit into their network.
But the web had grown too big for Microsoft to be contained.

Maybe, 5 years down the line, Microsoft will become a genuine web-oriented comapny. But so long as Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer are at the helm, you can discount that. These two are too wedded to their Desktop Monopoly to be really able to see things from a genuine perspective of the user.
Posted by bhushan bhaagii (127 comments )
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Well, Let's See Now
I mean, email, ebay, digital music, search, web video, IM, voip,", Seankirk, you could go on adding to this list, and it's doubtful that you will find Microsoft linked with any of these innovations. I repeat Microsoft has set up an ecosystem that exploits what others have developed. If someone comes up with a standalone product that is new, innovative, you can be sure that Microsoft will copy and load it on to its desktop package. The lone entrepreneur obviously does not have the wherewithal, or the support system to battle Microsoft, and before you know it, his enterprise has folded up and Microsoft carries on, regardless. And you are left without a choice.

But more pertinently, till a couple of years back, Microsoft was hung up on the Desktop.The doctrine according to Bill Gates was that the Desktop was the centre of computing. And if anything was not connected to Desktop Computing, MS would work to make it so.

The doctrine was nothing but a cover to legitimise a monopoloy that many had started questioning. And Microsoft did make a serious effort to bend applications to fit into their network.
But the web had grown too big for Microsoft to be contained.

Maybe, 5 years down the line, Microsoft will become a genuine web-oriented comapny. But so long as Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer are at the helm, you can discount that. These two are too wedded to their Desktop Monopoly to be really able to see things from a genuine perspective of the user.
Posted by bhushan bhaagii (127 comments )
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Well, Let's See Now
I mean, email, ebay, digital music, search, web video, IM, voip,", Seankirk, you could go on adding to this list, and it's doubtful that you will find Microsoft linked with any of these innovations. I repeat Microsoft has set up an ecosystem that exploits what others have developed. If someone comes up with a standalone product that is new, innovative, you can be sure that Microsoft will copy and load it on to its desktop package. The lone entrepreneur obviously does not have the wherewithal, or the support system to battle Microsoft, and before you know it, his enterprise has folded up and Microsoft carries on, regardless. And you are left without a choice.

But more pertinently, till a couple of years back, Microsoft was hung up on the Desktop.The doctrine according to Bill Gates was that the Desktop was the centre of computing. And if anything was not connected to Desktop Computing, MS would work to make it so.

The doctrine was nothing but a cover to legitimise a monopoloy that many had started questioning. And Microsoft did make a serious effort to bend applications to fit into their network.
But the web had grown too big for Microsoft to be contained.

Maybe, 5 years down the line, Microsoft will become a genuine web-oriented comapny. But so long as Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer are at the helm, you can discount that. These two are too wedded to their Desktop Monopoly to be really able to see things from a genuine perspective of the user.
Posted by bhushan bhaagii (127 comments )
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Well, Let's See Now
I mean, email, ebay, digital music, search, web video, IM, voip,", Seankirk, you could go on adding to this list, and it's doubtful that you will find Microsoft linked with any of these innovations. I repeat Microsoft has set up an ecosystem that exploits what others have developed. If someone comes up with a standalone product that is new, innovative, you can be sure that Microsoft will copy and load it on to its desktop package. The lone entrepreneur obviously does not have the wherewithal, or the support system to battle Microsoft, and before you know it, his enterprise has folded up and Microsoft carries on, regardless. And you are left without a choice.

But more pertinently, till a couple of years back, Microsoft was hung up on the Desktop.The doctrine according to Bill Gates was that the Desktop was the centre of computing. And if anything was not connected to Desktop Computing, MS would work to make it so.

The doctrine was nothing but a cover to legitimise a monopoloy that many had started questioning. And Microsoft did make a serious effort to bend applications to fit into their network.
But the web had grown too big for Microsoft to be contained.

Maybe, 5 years down the line, Microsoft will become a genuine web-oriented comapny. But so long as Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer are at the helm, you can discount that. These two are too wedded to their Desktop Monopoly to be really able to see things from a genuine perspective of the user.
Posted by bhushan bhaagii (127 comments )
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Well, Let's See Now
I mean, email, ebay, digital music, search, web video, IM, voip,", Seankirk, you could go on adding to this list, and it's doubtful that you will find Microsoft linked with any of these innovations. I repeat Microsoft has set up an ecosystem that exploits what others have developed. If someone comes up with a standalone product that is new, innovative, you can be sure that Microsoft will copy and load it on to its desktop package. The lone entrepreneur obviously does not have the wherewithal, or the support system to battle Microsoft, and before you know it, his enterprise has folded up and Microsoft carries on, regardless. And you are left without a choice.

But more pertinently, till a couple of years back, Microsoft was hung up on the Desktop.The doctrine according to Bill Gates was that the Desktop was the centre of computing. And if anything was not connected to Desktop Computing, MS would work to make it so.

The doctrine was nothing but a cover to legitimise a monopoloy that many had started questioning. And Microsoft did make a serious effort to bend applications to fit into their network.
But the web had grown too big for Microsoft to be contained.

Maybe, 5 years down the line, Microsoft will become a genuine web-oriented comapny. But so long as Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer are at the helm, you can discount that. These two are too wedded to their Desktop Monopoly to be really able to see things from a genuine perspective of the user.
Posted by bhushan bhaagii (127 comments )
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KY with that View?
"People like to blame Microsoft for the spectacular collapse of
Netscape" .... funny, when is it called blame when Microsoft gets
pulled into court and their own internal documents prove this to
be true?

Apple has a monopoly on iTunes? They made the software to
make their iPods easier to use. And to top it off, they DID NOT
originally make it for windows. They only did so after so many
PC users complained about, they realized they had a far more
marketable product than previously expected.

You try to make it sound as if Microsoft didn't gain their
dominance by bullying. You would have to be insane to believe
that or under the age of 30 and never went to a library, and did
any study in computer science. If you did, then you would
actually know why Microsoft is disliked.

Apparently, since Microsoft can't get it right, you obviously feel
the need to tell us how tough they have it.

And since when, does being a virus writer "PAY"? I mean come
on, unless you work for a company like Symantec, Im pretty
damn sure it does not. Last I heard, you can end up in a federal
penitentiary. By the way, OSX is safer than Windows. This entire
stupid argument about user base, or XP on the same box, or I
might lay a golden egg theory is NUTS. Yet someone still feels
the need to regurgitate the nonsense.

You seem to think that because Macs are Intel based now, that
somehow that majically means they will be affected by the same
viruses.

Of course, you said it best, when talking about Google, the Web,
and Microsoft. "cede control". That's it in a nutshell. Microsoft
wanting control. Well you my friend can continue to bend over
and take in the rear, but the rest of us just can't take it anymore.
Posted by Thomas, David (1947 comments )
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Right - And Terrorists Will Make The World A Safe Place
Um, a convicted criminal monopoly enterprise will keep other companies honest?
Posted by concernedcitizen (14 comments )
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YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH
You WANT me on that wall, you NEED me on that wall

eom
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