Drone aircraft may prowl U.S. skies

Unmanned aerial vehicles have soared the skies of Afghanistan and Iraq for years, spotting enemy encampments, protecting military bases, and even launching missile attacks against suspected terrorists.

Now UAVs may be landing in the United States.

A House of Representatives panel on Wednesday heard testimony from police agencies that envision using UAVs for everything from border security to domestic surveillance high above American cities. Private companies also hope to use UAVs for tasks such as aerial photography and pipeline monitoring.

"We need additional technology to supplement manned aircraft surveillance and current ground assets to ensure more effective monitoring of United States territory," Michael Kostelnik, assistant commissioner at Homeland Security's Customs and Border Protection Bureau, told the House Transportation subcommittee.

Kostelnik was talking about patrolling U.S. borders and ports from altitudes around 12,000 feet, an automated operation that's currently under way in Arizona. But that's only the beginning of the potential of surveillance from the sky.

In a scene that could have been inspired by the movie "Minority Report," one North Carolina county is using a UAV equipped with low-light and infrared cameras to keep watch on its citizens. The aircraft has been dispatched to monitor gatherings of motorcycle riders at the Gaston County fairgrounds from just a few hundred feet in the air--close enough to identify faces--and many more uses, such as the aerial detection of marijuana fields, are planned.

That raises not just privacy concerns, but also safety concerns because of the possibility of collisions with commercial and general aviation aircraft.

"They're a legitimate user of the airspace and they need to play by the same rules as everyone else," Melissa Rudinger, vice president of regulatory affairs at the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, said in a telephone interview.

Pilots undergo extensive training on collision detection and avoidance. Planes that fly at night are required to have certain types of lights, for instance. Operating an aircraft near busy airports (in government parlance, "Class B" airports) requires a transponder that broadcasts its altitude. And during all flights that take place in poor weather or higher than 18,000 feet above sea level, the pilot must be in radio contact with controllers.

No such anti-collision rules apply to UAVs. Rudinger is concerned that UAVs--either remote-controlled or autonomous drones--will pose a safety threat to pilots and their passengers. She's not that worried about larger UAVs operated by the military that have sophisticated radar systems, but about smaller ones that have limited equipment and potentially inexperienced ground controllers.

"The FAA needs to define what is a UAV," Rudinger said. "And they need to regulate it just like they do any other aircraft, and integrate it into the system. The problem is the technology has advanced, and there are no regulations that talk about how to certify these aircraft, how to certify the operator, and how to operate in the national airspace system."

For its part, the FAA says it's created a UAV "program office" to come up with new rules of the sky. Preliminary standards for "sense and avoid" UAV avionics are expected in three to four years.

"Currently there is no recognized technology solution that could make these aircraft capable of meeting regulatory requirements for 'see and avoid,' and 'command and control,'" said Nick Sabatini, associate FAA administrator for aviation safety. "Further, some unmanned aircraft will likely never receive unrestricted access to (U.S. airspace) due to the limited amount of avionics it can carry because of weight, such as transponders, that can be installed in a vehicle itself weighing just a few ounces."

Complicating the question of how to deal with UAVs is the fact that there are so many different varieties of them. Some are essentially large model aircraft and weigh only a few ounces or pounds, while some military models are the size of a Boeing 737. Most are designed to sip fuel slowly, so they have long flight times and low airspeeds--meaning that they could be flying at the same altitude as a jet aircraft but at half the speed.

Egging on Congress and the FAA are manufacturers of UAVs, who see a lucrative market in domestic surveillance and aerial photography.

"It is quite easy to envision a future in which (UAVs), unaffected by pilot fatigue, provide 24-7 border and port surveillance to protect against terrorist intrusion," said Mike Heintz on behalf of the UNITE Alliance which represents Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman. "Other examples are limited only by our imagination."

[sayhi-gripnchic]

Times are getting crazy!

I don't know for certon if athoritys have thought about this much.I wont to leave my childern with a better land than I have and that my father had.The problem today is that WE THE PEOPLE OF THESE UNITED STATES have been to lazy, or to frusterated with our gov.to get involved.As a resalt,we have given to much power to the gov. as a hole!!!DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN!!!!!!I don't wont anyone,esp. the police,to be watching my every move.I would love to ask someone responable"Who do you think you are!?What gives you the right to serv.all inorder to catchy the few?"The problem with that is that noone in paticuler is responsable.There for noone is held accuntable if these aircraft are used for the rough resons.America,ARE YOU BLIND!?

[Average-Joe]

My reasons for concern...

1. Citizen's won't know they are being surveiled, so citizen oversight cannot exist. Who will report the impact of this program to LAC citizens?

I can see and hear a manned helicopter, so I know it is up there above my house. A LAC resident will have no idea that the government is above their house zooming in on them, and this could be for a sustained period of time. So, a citizen has no idea they are being surveilled. If a helicopter is shinning its bright light on my home for a sustained period of time, then I'll know about it and have the opportunity to petitition my government for redress of gievances).

2. Not currently feasible to monitor citizens unless probably cause is established. However, that will change.

It is extremely expensive and difficult to patrol the city 24/7 with a manned helicopter. These drones currently cost $30K a piece, and that price will go down. Within a few years it will not be out of the question to have dozens, or perhaps, hundreds of these things circling the sky watching all aspects of daily life. So, it will be feasible to surveil entire areas of the city on a 24/7 basis. With no one even knowing about it. This is not possible now. Helicopters are prohibitively expensive, so they are utilized in a limited fashion - say, for chasing suspects. But with these drones, the budgetary constraints are lifted and therefore probable cause will not necessarily be a limiting factor any longer.

3. Will inter-department checks and balances be implemented?

How is a county legislative body going to monitor the Sheriff's use of these drones? How will local legislators know that they are being used AFTER probable cause has been established. Will the Sheriff be required to obtain a warrant before they can fly surveillance missions over the homes of "suspects," where search warrants were not obtained or obtainable? Who will oversee the use of these devices? What standards will the Sheriff have to meet before they can fly a drone over a given area of the city? Who will create these standards? Where are the checks and balances?

4. This can be used to monitor local gov't officials as well.

What if someone other than the current Sheriff comes to power. Let's say George Bush III becomes the next Sheriff in town and he decides to use these silent, always pervasive flying eyes to "get dirt" on the local gov't officials. Who will be there to stop this activity? Will the folks that oversee the program have the power to curtail it?

If gov't officials are going to seriously evaluate implementing these new technologies, they need to make sure they can closely limit their use and manage their downside risk. If they are going to use them to help law enforcement catch bad guys, where a warrant exists or probable cause has been established, then great. But this technology is incredibly enticing, and it will be easy to justify expanding its use. What gov't officials have to do is make sure that any expansion of its use is publicly discussed and decided upon within the appropriate governmental body, because it will be very easy for law enforcement to use this technology however they see fit.

[joshxdavis]

What are you talking about? What could we have done to avoid this? Vote?

hahahhahhahahha!!!!!!!!!!

[tree_man]

A MAJOR HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION!

Please little white crackers, stop pushing big brother

[tree_man]

SHOOT THEM DOWN OR LOOSE FREEDOM

even if they do have practical use for natonal security, they dont have business flying in the aspect of everyones lives, i dont give a hoot how religious and forgiving you are.....

[Alan Sinsel]

aerial refueling of unmanned aerial systems

The article by Ms. McCullagh is spot on but late to the party. A look overseas will show that Europe is taking the lead to get Unmanned Aerial "Systems" (the use of "Vehicles" is old school today in this industry) into airspace over the countries of the European Union. As usual the control of U.S. airspace by manned aviation is being fought for by FAA and Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association who both are so set in there old ways could mean that the unmanned aviation world will pass us by. Unless we in this new industry of unmanned aviation take the offense and fight them for our piece of the sky the new lucrative markets will be lost for years to this very new industry. Soon aerial refueling will be taking place over the skies of the world to keep such unmanned cost competitive systems air-born days or weeks at a time due to the new technologies of engine bearings soon coming to market. I have been working on this aerial refueling technology for the past couple of years that will allow the refueling of even the smallest unmanned aviation systems to be refueled in mid-air at airspeeds below 150 knots. There's money to be made in this industry a lot of it by flying such systems, this industry is moving at light speed. AOPA and FAA will try to hold back this technology while the rest of the world flies past us it is ingrained to there old ways of thinking and who they serve. I only hope that the unmanned industry gets it's lobbyist ready to do battle against these two monoliths of aviation past who will try again to control of people's airspace. How aviation business by unmanned aviation "systems" will be done in this country and the world is now being fought out on capital hill. There's a new kid on the block. Game On.

[Mark Sudela]

aerial drones over Texas

I've been observing moving objects over southeast Texas for quite some time. Only recently did learn they were drones. After some research, I realized how extensively they've been used. For instance, back in 1995, Ellington Airbase, which is about 5 to 10 miles east of my residence, replaced an entire squadron of F-18's with a dozen UAV's. Recently, one that looks remarkably like one mentioned on the internet shows up every morning, not only very huge in size, but at the exact time each time. It also leaves at the exact time each day. I have observed commercial airliners comeing quite close to this one. Until a friend told me about drones, I really did think I was observing UFO's. My family thought I had lost my mind or the ability to see properly. Sincerely, Mark Sudela

[Carnel Renner]

Drones over Stockton, CA.

Dear Mark Sudela, i think I notice what you notice night and early mornings. Mt Drone, can read your thoughts, it can understand and you can have a communication with these Drones. Since 1993, I have had drones tracking me. I can't stand them I also complain to George Busg, and it created our national serveillence awareness, of the complaint of the domestice serveillence, and president Bush claims no problems, well i need all of your help, for over 14 years I have been tortured with these drones, these people get away with murder. They even have a unmanded system, that has a ringing ever two, day, and teo days, off and 4 days on, that have a high pitch ringing into my skull, and hearing, it drives me crazy. The US. General of our nations health said to go to mental health, they will help you, I thought they would help remove this problem, and I bet if a doctor hear this they wil loose their mind about the noise, but the mental health said it was just my thinking, and gave me some pills, but I can not get no help, Mark. Mark I tell you I was in Lubock Texas in 1995, I bet the same drone was the one you saw, now it over here on top of Stockton, CA. Mark do you think you can help me to get help to remove this problem because I want my life back, and you are the only person I have ever talked to in 14 years that goes through what I am going through. This Drone, is connected to the Birth of the internet, and i know if I ever find out or the law who ever is on the other end they will go to prison for life, also a huge governmental law suit. I need help and I need the public to help me, I hope the American people can help me. Please email me back MarK. My, email address is [e-mail] please email me back who ever reads this, i fill like I am in a deep dark hole, and nobody can get to me and the people with this aircrafts of the military, does so much torturing daily around the clock, for over 14 years. Can anybody help me please, contact me so we can work together. thank you, HELP........Help.......Carnel Renner

[42volcan]

I live in the drone capital of the US Southern Arizona is the training area for the loudest drones on the planet. The constantly fly during the day for 8 hours and the training drones are very noisy. My neighbors say that it is the priced of freedom and I should accept the loss of peace and quiet. I moved to remote area to get away from the city noise. The real estate agent made no mention of the noisy planes. I hate drones and want to move to the Texas coast. I heard that there are drones in that part of the US too. What is going on

[sbsesq]

Twinkling hovering laser cloaked objects in the sky. Bright white with little flashes of color. Others blue-green. Adjusting binocular focus at one end expands them to what looks like the riffling of a gun barrell that pulses. Bringing into sharper focus looks like a ball of static electricity, again pulsing, and with some color; however, inside the ball is the shadow at a certain focal point of a strange looking helicopter or other arial vehicle that seems to move on a horizontal axis. . IIn the middle of the range the image can be concentrated to a laser hot pulsing light too bright to watch but momentarily. These things can remain stationary for long periods of time but do seem to drift somewhat while they appear to be fairly stationary. Some nights there is an entire constellation of them seemingly a mile or so apart in a grid over the city. What are they, what are they doing? Any technical information and photographs would be appreciated. post a link

[joshxdavis]

We do not need this. This is so scary. This scares the **** out of me. There is NO REASON to have this type of technology. What happened to privacy? It has infared/thermal/whatever vision that can see inside your little houses. This is like Fahrenheit 451.

[Shadow6900]

This is no longer America, it has become Amerika.

There is no privacy, it is the nightmare of George Orwell's 1984 and when I can I will leave this country
and find some South pacific to live on.