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March 12, 2002 3:55 PM PST

Feds: PayPal not a bank

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February 11, 2002
Federal regulators' position that PayPal is not a bank boosts the company's contention that it shouldn't be regulated as one, but officials caution that theirs isn't the final word in the matter.

In an advisory letter sent last month to PayPal concerning its use of customers' funds, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation said it does not consider the company to be a bank or savings association because it does not accept deposits as defined by federal law, which requires institutions to have a banking charter. PayPal doesn't have a charter, thus it is not a bank, the FDIC said.

"PayPal does not physically handle or hold funds placed into the PayPal service," the FDIC said in its letter.

PayPal representatives said the FDIC opinion should help the company stave off attempts by state and federal officials to regulate its business.

"As long as we continue doing what we are doing today, we won't be subject to Federal banking laws," said PayPal Chief Executive Peter Thiel.

But an FDIC official said state officials may still conclude that the company is acting as an unauthorized bank.

"It's really a state issue," said the FDIC official. "I've been on the phone with several state regulators. I've indicated that federal law is not going to help them. They are going to have to come to their own determination under state law" about whether PayPal is acting as a bank.

PayPal has come under increasing scrutiny from states such as New York and California, which have raised questions about whether the Palo Alto, Calif.-based company is operating an illegal banking service.

State regulators have also begun to question whether PayPal is operating an unauthorized money transmitting service. Last month, Louisiana asked PayPal to cease offering its service to state residents until it secured a license from the state to transmit money. PayPal is in the process of applying for such a license, Thiel said.

PayPal acknowledged that the FDIC opinion is not binding on state regulators, but argued that it could have a positive effect.

The opinion "could be considered relevant by some state authorities in their review of whether PayPal is engaged in the business of banking under state law. Notwithstanding the opinion, PayPal will continue its applications for state money services licenses where appropriate," the company said in a statement.

The FDIC's decision on PayPal's banking status came as part of an advisory opinion on balances left in PayPal customer accounts.

As of this quarter, PayPal began depositing customer balances into FDIC-insured bank accounts. The company had asked for an opinion from the FDIC on whether it could pass the insurance protection on to its customers. In its advisory letter, the FDIC said the insurance protections--up to $100,000 per customer per bank--would extend to PayPal customers, even when PayPal deposited the funds for them, PayPal said.

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paypal is a banking facility
by September 8, 2005 8:43 PM PDT
My sales go directly into this account. It can be accessed by a debit/bank card. Only funds deposited are accessible. This is my money in there they are holding, untill which time I choose to withdraw it. Paypal is definantly engaged in banking activities, and should be covered under the FDIC.
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paypal is a banking facility
by September 8, 2005 8:43 PM PDT
My sales go directly into this account. It can be accessed by a debit/bank card. Only funds deposited are accessible. This is my money in there they are holding, untill which time I choose to withdraw it. Paypal is definantly engaged in banking activities, and should be covered under the FDIC.
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paypal is a banking facility
by September 8, 2005 8:43 PM PDT
My sales go directly into this account. It can be accessed by a debit/bank card. Only funds deposited are accessible. This is my money in there they are holding, untill which time I choose to withdraw it. Paypal is definantly engaged in banking activities, and should be covered under the FDIC.
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by apaypalvictim November 3, 2008 9:00 AM PST
PAYPAL acts as a Bank and Should be regulated as Bank! Our Federal Government Must Close the Loophole's, that allow an Unsavory Company like Paypal to operate unregulated and checked. If Paypal Inc. doesn't want to be regulated as a Bank, then Shut it down.
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by moroeder November 14, 2008 2:10 PM PST
The "Feds" don't think Paypal is a bank? They didn't see any problems with Freddie or Fanny either! It's getting to the point where we the people can't trust our government for anything. Anarchy is probably closer than we want to believe!
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by Indianafloors September 9, 2009 8:59 PM PDT
I found this in a forum they banned to guy but I see his point.

hold by ebay is illegal....
It is time to file a class action suit !!
Lets get the ball rolling !!
Let me explain.

Paypal has everyright to hold funds as a banking center I concur with this.
however..... it is not Paypal holding the funds, it is Ebay.

Paypal is following directives imposed by Ebay the hold is being intitiated on the Ebay side I know this to be fact after arguing exstensivly with both parties.
It started when I opened a new account under a new name for an expanded business last month.
I have been current with ebay since 2004 I am a powerseller with 100% feedback rating and lauded by Paypal for having a steller record.

When I open the new account the first 2 order no problem, the next all in a row have been held by ebay.Ebay say this is random hold and that Paypal is doing it. This is false
It is not random either!! and ebay is doing it, ebay does not have the authority to hold funds as they are not a banking center.
They are illegally hold funds and are telling Paypal to hold funds for them, this is illegal.

I tell what they are doing...... Ebay has lost many sellers due to thier backward policies that protect buyers and leave sellers flapping in the wind....
Paypal processes 1000 transactions per minute....now.... the longer they hold it the more money they can make on interest...

Interest......ing eh?

Since Paypal is owned ebay, ebay is making money on the interest for the orders they are telling paypal to hold.
Not only is this illegal it is "Theft by Deception"
They are stealing yours and my money for up to 21 days while they draw interest...while forcing us to pay for product without the funds we have earned with our selling prowness......

Does anybody here get a free ride from Ebay???
I don't and there are many times ebay makes more than I do because they take value on the whole amount instead a percentage of just the profit like.... we all get....

Do you feel Offended.
I do!!
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