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February 4, 2009 9:52 AM PST

Why $100 is the perfect Blu-ray player price

by Don Reisinger
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Lite-On might be releasing a $150 Blu-ray player at some point in 2009, recent rumors suggest. There's not much more information available now, but I don't think it seems out of the question to expect Lite-On or another firm like Memorex to release a player for that price sometime during the year.

But is $150 the sweet spot for Blu-ray players? For those who want Blu-ray anyway they can have it, that might be perfect. But for others, $150 is still a steep price tag for a device that would conceivably offer less quality than other, more expensive Blu-ray players on the market.

And as I consider a $150 Blu-ray player, I find myself in the latter grouping. It's not that a $150 Blu-ray player doesn't appeal to me. But for that price, I'm not getting enough that would make me want to spend the money.

For me, the perfect price tag for a Blu-ray player at this juncture, given the economy and the format's shortcomings, is $100.

$100 is the ideal price for media players that are trying to gain traction in the market. Until DVD players came down to that price, the format wasn't even close to ubiquity. But in just a few short months after the $100 DVD players started hitting store shelves, I remember finding one in almost every home I visited. It was astounding.

My issue with the admittedly low Blu-ray player price of $150 goes far beyond the cash I'd dole out. Blu-ray itself is still a question mark to me. Do I really want to spend $150 on an underwhelming player when the jump from DVD to Blu-ray isn't that great on good players and a high-quality HDTV?

I have a PlayStation 3 and Sony Blu-ray player. I've used both to compare the same films on Blu-ray and DVD. I've evaluated them on my Panasonic 50-inch 1080p calibrated HDTV. From The Dark Knight to Eastern Promises, I've found that Blu-ray provides nominally better picture quality.

Worse, Blu-ray movies still cost about $30 when they're first released and considering the same film is available for $20 or less on DVD, I don't think I'm the only one wondering why I should pay an extra $10 per film just to have slightly better quality.

We also can't forget that DVD is mobile. You can watch a film at home, pop it into your car's DVD player for the kids, and finish watching it when you get to your friend's house. No matter where you go, there's a DVD player waiting for you.

The same isn't true for Blu-ray. At this point, adoption rates are too low and player prices are too high to see Blu-ray everywhere we go.

Taking all these issues into account, I simply don't see any reason to spend $150 on a low-end Blu-ray player that may or may not provide better quality than my DVD player. When I can buy an upconverting DVD player for $100 or less and purchase a DVD for about $10 less than its Blu-ray counterpart, can I really justify buying a Lite-On Blu-ray player?

But if it was priced at $100, I think I'd pick one up. Maybe is a psychological thing, but a $99.99 Blu-ray player is ideal. It's cost-effective in an uncertain economy and it gives me the chance to buy a couple Blu-ray films to go with it for that same $150 price tag. And at $99.99, I know a slew of people who would probably pick one up, too. That would make it an even more compelling buy, since I could bring my Blu-ray films to my friends' houses.

But just because I would rather buy a Blu-ray player for $100, it doesn't mean that no one likes the idea of buying a player for $150. So let's hear it: what is your ideal price tag? Let us know in the comments and in the poll below.

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by technologyRules February 4, 2009 10:14 AM PST
The difference in picture quality and sound seems pretty big to me over upscaled DVD. So I'm surprised when people who own good equipment don't notice much difference.

That said, I'm eagerly awaiting the media prices to drop -- the player prices are reasonable now.
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by Careakith February 4, 2009 10:22 AM PST
I don't care what the price is even if its free I wouldn't care. The movies cost too much!
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by Magicland February 4, 2009 10:23 AM PST
The cost of the player is not the issue, the cost of the media is. Why pay at least a 50% price premium for a format which doesn't bring much to the table? DVD looks great on my 56" HDTV (tv upconverts, so I don't even need an upconverting DVD player), costs less, and plays on everything I own. Heck, most things I own will play mp4 video files, so why pay a premium for a blu-ray format which will be obsolete before it ever meets market saturation? Soon I'll just be ripping all my DVD's and keep the files on a hard drive, as I did years ago with my CD's.
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by xcal78 February 4, 2009 10:26 AM PST
I'm thinking Blue Ray will die just like HD-DVD. Why bother with a physical format other then DVD when you can just stream them in better then Blue Ray quality. On-demand, instant, cheaper, better quality, and no special equipment other then your PC. I guess you may need a special device for $100 or a cable to hook your PC to your TV for $20-30. I like a lot of people I know will stick to DVD's and get HD content from a streaming online source like Netflix. I'd be tempted to grab a Blue Ray for $100 for now until all the movies I want to see are avalible in a streaming format but again the difference isn't really worth the price. I do have a nice new plasma tv and bose's system so I'd prefer the best avalible quality but in this economy price places just as big of a roll.
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by danielwsmithee February 4, 2009 10:26 AM PST
I agree, it's all stored on hard drives in the future. Boxee + Apple TV woot.
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by The 3rd Nipple February 4, 2009 10:26 AM PST
I have a PS3 with BluRay too. There's a large different to me between that and a regular DVD....but only on newer movies. I have a few BluRay versions of older movies and even watching those I just see more graininess of the flim on the screen. Not the razor sharp images that come with new HD movies. So even if the BluRay player price was at $100, I would still recommend buying the DVD version of movies that came out prior to HD and stick to the BluRay of newer movies. And if I didn't even have an HDTV...I wouldn't even consider purchasing BluRay. That's my two cents worth.
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by sting7k February 4, 2009 10:28 AM PST
Blu-ray will likely feel the effects of this economy much more so than DVD. In these times people will just keep doing what they can for as cheap as they can. Right now DVDs are dirt cheap, you can find weekly deals for some great movies for just $5. I don't even think a $100 player is enough when movies are still at least twice as much as they are on DVD if not more. Blu-ray will probably be hit hard the next few months or even few quarters as people pull back and hold off until things improve.
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by BlutoNYC February 4, 2009 10:30 AM PST
I think buying a Blu-Ray player is a waste of money... I'm holding out for true HD downloads and a device with a lot of hard drive space. Besides... all that plastic that is needed for the media and the case is bad for the environment.
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by HlLLARY CLITON February 4, 2009 10:32 AM PST
I'll consider one when they are $49
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by Splashes February 4, 2009 10:35 AM PST
It's a reasonable (and fairly obvious) hypothesis -- $99 is a universal sweet spot. However, in the short term, I'm not sure if it's a reasonable and desirable goal for the manufacturers.

I, like Don, use a PS3 for playing Blu-Ray discs. In fact, I bought it solely for that purpose -- I haven't yet used the PS3 for games. After reading many reviews, it became clear that there were a lot of lame Blu-Ray players out there. Instead of spending $200 on a player that was slow, had less features, and wasn't software-updateable, I paid $400 for the PS3. I haven't regretted it, especially after hearing about some friends' low-end players.

Many years ago, when my regular DVD player pooped out, I bought a cheapo replacement ($80 or so), figuring it would be 'good enough.' I was wrong. In contrast to VCRs, the performance of a DVD player is highly dependent on the computer inside -- slow computer = slow response to remote, slow layer switching, slow track seeking, etc. I returned that piece of junk and bought a mid-range player from the same manufacturer; I was pleased with it.

And there lies my concern with cheapo Blu-Ray players. Blu-Ray is even more demanding of the hardware; a cheapo player will likely mean (for instance) slow-loading discs. Even my PS3 can take ten seconds or so to load the menus for a movie like Wall-E; on a friend's $200 unit, that delay is more like a minute and a half. No big deal in the grand scheme of things, but combined with other inevitable performance deficits, it's unlikely to encourage people to make the leap, especially considering the factors Don pointed out in his article (such as picture quality improvement being minor for most people, and higher movie prices).

Bottom line: well-performing $99 players could (if it performs well) greatly increase Blu-Ray adoption. Poorly-performing $99 players could sink the format entirely. For a software metaphor, one need look no further than Vista.
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by jsl4980 February 4, 2009 10:41 AM PST
Who cares about Bluray? With any luck it won't matter if Bluray or HD-DVD was better, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon through $99 boxes like Roku are so much easier to use. Forget the insanely high priced movies on easy-to-scratch plastic discs.
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by gerrrg February 4, 2009 11:05 AM PST
Over the span of several years, Blu-Ray will simply be incorporated into the average DVD player, so we'll eventually see sub-$50 players in a handful of years.

Blu-Ray as a format will eventually take over SD DVDs in the market place, but the overall market for optical disk content will shrink as we'll gradually move over to content delivery via the internet. Before the end of 2010, much of broadband will be streaming at 50 Mbps or faster, possibly including wireless LTE technology.

The same is true for CD music. As time goes on, even with SACD technology, the market for physical CDs will shrink as more and more people get their content streaming or purchased online.
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by Splashes February 4, 2009 11:09 AM PST
For all the folks saying downloads will obviate physical media, what about all the extras (shorts, featurettes, outtakes, audio commentary, kids' games, etc.) that come on most discs these days? Not worth the hassle of dealing with physical media?

I'm not being snarky; I'm genuinely curious. I really enjoy some of the extra stuff, as do my kids. I'm sure that's why that stuff is included -- to sell the discs. Obviously not all people see value in the extras; the question is what percentage? One could hypothesize that the extras will eventually be downloadable as well, but for some reason that doesn't seem likely to me.
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by Sugith1 February 4, 2009 11:13 AM PST
I got my parents a nice 42 inch plasma this Christmas, but they weren't interested in upgrading their cable box to HD and the higher monthly fee, let alone a blu-ray player.

And the vast majority of HDTV owners do not watch an HD television signal, so why would they bother with blu-ray? Most people bought their sets for the size and shape of the unit, and the general picture quality improvement over what they had but not because they want high definition.

MOST people don't even own many DVD's. (My parents may own two.) They rent and they don't want to have to look for the blu-ray version of something.

Blu-ray will remain a niche market for videophiles, just like SACD and DVD-audio are for audiophiles, regardless of any price drop. (I may be both, but I know that I'm not typical.) The public isn't picky, especially in this economy.
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by dixonpete February 4, 2009 11:24 AM PST
I'd be interested in Blu-Ray purely as a computer storage device. DVD blanks are about $10 for 50 pcs, or $0.20 per pc, or, roughly, $1 for 20GB storage. Blu-Ray needs to beat that cost factor ratio by at least a factor of 5x to be thought of as any kind of worthwhile improvement.
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by brykb February 4, 2009 11:29 AM PST
I just purchased a blu-ray player for $79. It is an internal drive for my computer. Looks really great on my HDTV when I use the HDMI output of my graphics card.
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by brykb February 4, 2009 11:36 AM PST
Oh and by the way, I upgraded my netflix account to Blu-ray for an extra $1 a month. They have lots of blu-ray titles.
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by supergoodnachos February 4, 2009 11:42 AM PST
Well, I would rather pay $150 for a decent Blu-ray player than $100 for one that sucks, if the extra $50 can really make a difference. I admit, I got burned on HD-DVD, and I'm not eager to jump back in with Blu-ray. DVDs up-converted on my HD-DVD player look pretty good, I can notice a difference between the same movie on HD-DVD and up-converted DVD, so I imagine I would see the same thing by going with Blu-ray. If I do eventually get one then I will just get media from Netflix as opposed to buying the disks. I agree with the other comments, even with cheap players the media is too expensive, especially considering the huge catalog of DVDs that can often be had for $5-$10 on sale, and even new releases we are talking about a $10 to even $20 more to get Blu-ray versions, way too much. Consumers are not going to pay $30-40 a movie, unless the Blu-ray camp realizes this and adjusts the prices downward they are not going to go mainstream.
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by aka_tripleB February 4, 2009 11:53 AM PST
I'm not sure if it's the TV or the DVD player (but most likely the latter), but when I watch a DVD it looks almost as good as a 1080i OTA broadcast. With 1080i being the best the TV can do, I see no reason to move to Blu-ray. Plus, I'm weary that when the studios want to move to a new standard they will remotely sabotage Blu-ray players and force everyone to move everything to the new format.
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by jrolin1 February 4, 2009 12:07 PM PST
The biggest problem I have with Blu-Ray players is the need for updating to be able to play the latest discs and other playback glitches. BD will not take off as long as the regular person has to have it updated manually or have it connected to a home network to be able to play discs without problems. The price drop will help but everyone will not be ready to jump to a format where you have to do updates regularly to play a movie.
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