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April 19, 2009 12:40 PM PDT

U.S. military enlists iPod Touch for battlefield

by Steven Musil
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The U.S. military has found the iPod Touch to be a valuable battlefield tool for soldiers.

(Credit: Apple)

Updated at 1:25 p.m. PDT to clarify that apps being developed for iPhone as well.

The hottest new battlefield weapon in Baghdad is also a hot item on the home front.

Apple's iPod Touch is proving to be a valuable tool to members of the U.S. military, according to a report in Newsweek.

The report notes that the iPod performs many functions in this time of "networked warfare," enabling soldiers to be linked with other soldiers, as well as intelligence resources, such as aerial images from drones and translation software.

Soldiers can use applications to add translated phrases to maps and photos, as well as show villagers video messages from local leaders. A new program called Vcommunicator translates spoken and written Arabic, Kurdish, as well as two Afghan languages.

Another application developed for the iPhone allows soldiers to take a photo of a street sign, upload it, and immediately receive intelligence on the local area, such as water and sympathizers. Because new recruits are already familiar with how the iPod and iPhone work, it's also easier to train soldiers on loading content, the report notes.

Oh yeah, this rugged device, which retails for less than $230, was developed in the private sector without taxpayer money. Considering the military's history of being charged for $435 hammers, $640 toilet seats, and $7,600 coffeemakers by contractors, this is a great deal.

Steven Musil is the night news editor at CNET News. Before joining CNET News in 2000, Steven spent 10 years at various Bay Area newspapers. E-mail Steven.
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by BogusBasin April 19, 2009 1:20 PM PDT
Yeah, there's an app for that. Amen
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by couricfan4 April 19, 2009 1:20 PM PDT
I wonder how they upload the picture to the ipod touch since it does not have a camera? I think something might be amiss with this article. Sure it isn't an iPhone they are using?
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by cvillelex April 19, 2009 1:36 PM PDT
"Another application developed for the iPhone allows soldiers to take a photo of a street sign, upload it and immediately receive intelligence on the local area, "
by jumpjetta April 19, 2009 2:30 PM PDT
It's been edited now.
by Maccess April 20, 2009 1:22 AM PDT
I can't imagine which telephone company that iPhone is tied into.Is there AT&T service in Iraq? Or is that a low key Iraqi Telecom subscription bundle? Aren't all iPhones tied to a particular carrier? Even the opnline units sold in Hong Kong are tied to a HK cellular company.
by Synthmeister April 20, 2009 8:39 AM PDT
They're probably just using wi-fi.
by jumpjetta April 19, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
<i>Another application allows soldiers to take a photo of a street sign, upload it and immediately receive intelligence on the local area</i>

Not with an iPod Touch. No camera.

Makes me question the validity of CNET "news" when I see things like this... when a simple, checkable fact/feature is misreported. How can I trust more obscure things you report, like military practices?
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by stevenmusil April 19, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
My error for not pointing out that app is for the iPhone. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
by jumpjetta April 19, 2009 2:32 PM PDT
Thanks for the fix. Makes more sense now.
by shishcone April 19, 2009 1:37 PM PDT
Aah they fixed it! :)
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by Angmarr April 19, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
hope they don't have any hacking issues!

Im against the military using commercial products without any modifications! - still cool I guess
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by SlimGem April 19, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
How does this idea of "networked warfare" work in places like the mountains of Afghanistan? Can they get any signal there? Seems like it would only be viable in urban settings in some of the third world countries.
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by SeizeCTRL April 19, 2009 5:15 PM PDT
They could use something like inmarsat for satellite data connection and take that out to wifi for the iPod Touch. granted that would be slow and rather expensive, but it would at least give you sort of network connection in the middle of nowhere
by Harlan879 April 19, 2009 2:14 PM PDT
Incidentally, I think the $425 hammers thing was an accounting trick used to pay for money going to black programs, without having to have a line item saying "secret". They weren't actually paying hundreds of dollars for toilet seats.
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by tehrani625 April 19, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
Its like $200 for me $200 for you and $25 for that guy over their to install the toilet seat, welcome to politics in the middle east.
by Perry_Clease April 19, 2009 3:14 PM PDT
Okay guys my wife was an accountant for the US Navy when both the hammer and toilet seats were made public and I was on active duty with the US Navy.

As to the hammers the contract with manufacturer stipulated that all tools used had to purchased from the manufacturer. This would make sense for special tools for an engine or whatever that you can't order from a hardware store, but not for things like a screwdriver or hammer. The fault goes to the contract oversight folks and the people involved in the pork barrel industry.

The toilets were not the things upon which you sit your butt. They were sheet metal covers/casings/enclosures for the head (toilet for you landlubbers). My ship was in the shipyard at the time and I asked one of the sheet metal shop guys about it. He said yes it would cost that much because a big part of the expensive is the drawings and such work going into making just a few of these things. If they were making hundreds or more of the coverings then the unit cost goes down.
by rapier1 April 19, 2009 3:16 PM PDT
Did you pick this up from Independence Day?
by oassaf April 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT
tehrani625 -

The cost of the hammer, toilet seat, or whatever has nothing to do with middle east politics. It has to do with rd tape and bureaucracy. Yes it is way overblown in terms of cost, you think hammer is bad, think about the Hundreds of millions put in to fighter jet design!
by SeizeCTRL April 19, 2009 5:18 PM PDT
oassaf

I don't think it's fair to compare a hammer to a F-22. one is amazingly simple, the other incredibly complex. Jets and planes in commercial/private sector are incredibly expensive... so you can't blame political red tape for the insane cost of a 747 being sold to Delta or whatnot.
by Commander_Spock April 19, 2009 7:30 PM PDT
Re: "I don't think it's fair to compare a hammer to a F-22. one is amazingly simple, the other incredibly complex..."

Well, one "Concorde Aircraft" is now sitting on the deck of an old Aircraft Carrier in New York's Hudson River after billions of pound sterling were spent on their development; so, how about that for "useful spending" - huh!
by thelemurking April 20, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
****! Mark this day on your calendar folks, Commander Spock made a post without so much as a hint of OS/2!

How long did the Concorde fly before it was retired? It was replaced by something bigger and better. It was a great looking plane, but it wasn't going to be in service forever. I'm amazed that you didn't tell us that the Concorde would live again if they simply upgraded the flight control software to e-comm station or whatever it's called now. There was a reason IBM retired OS/2, much like there was a reason the Concorde is now a tourist attraction.
by thabassman April 19, 2009 2:33 PM PDT
calm down low lifes. It was a mistake or maybe this rugged ipod touch has a camrea built in? I doubt it, but its possible.
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by pwoon April 19, 2009 3:13 PM PDT
Can the iPhone do everything the iPod touch do? I know the iPhone can make phone calls, but I'm thinking of getting a new cell phone and mp3 player. Might as well get the iPhone and kill two birds with one stone.
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by curlytop999 April 19, 2009 3:24 PM PDT
Pwoon,

The iPhone can do almost everything the iPod touch can. The only thing the iPhone can't do is Nike+, but that isn't that big of a deal.

Hope this helps,
curlytop999
by pwoon April 19, 2009 3:51 PM PDT
Great, that plus my new iMac, and i've moved totally over to Apple (not totally, I'm still running Windows in Parallels and doing Windows programming).
by ZetaZeta_ April 20, 2009 1:08 PM PDT
The iPhone does more than the iPod touch, right? Camera, microphone, speakers, which the Touch has not.
by adverteasement April 19, 2009 4:57 PM PDT
bang bang -- your dead
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by kirkules April 19, 2009 6:07 PM PDT
So this data going back and forth can't be intercepted can it?
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by Jack K1 April 19, 2009 6:47 PM PDT
I wonder how the artsy-fartsy folk feel about their precious Apple products being used to facilitate killing people?

Oh, and the these devices run about $2,400. Our dear reporter forgot about the custom camo paint job which had to be done to mil-spec.
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by lkrupp April 19, 2009 7:06 PM PDT
That's a valid question. Most of the Mac users I have run into in real life, online, or otherwise, are raging left-wing screwballs who hate the military and are members of all manner of left leaning organizations. I do wonder what they think about this.
by baconstang April 19, 2009 7:51 PM PDT
Us artsy-fartsies think you guys are immature morons.... no offense.
by dlowe402 April 20, 2009 4:47 AM PDT
I'm a Mac (and have been for the last 20 years) and I spent 10 years serving my country in the military.
by seven7dust April 20, 2009 8:27 AM PDT
@dlowe402
stop with the MS marketing crap
PCs and Macs are tools we use to help make our lives convenient
stop calling yourself one , that is unless you like referring to yourself as a Tool !
by hoocares April 20, 2009 8:29 AM PDT
Yeah lkrupp... like that raging left-wing screwball Mac user Rush Limbaugh. lol
by Vegaman_Dan April 20, 2009 12:55 PM PDT
@Seven7Dust:

Be sure to look in the mirror before you start casting such comments about blatantly. You're quite guilty yourself of exactly the same thing in regards to any and all things Apple. You may not be aware of that, but it is anyone who reads your comments will see it.
by seven7dust April 20, 2009 4:19 PM PDT
@dan
I have no idea wat you taking about
When have I called myself a Mac or a PC in any of my comments
they are computers for gods sake !
how can MS and Fanboys not get that
by pithenumber April 22, 2009 5:10 PM PDT
@seven
how does calling oneself a Mac be considered as MS marketing?
by magichr3 April 19, 2009 7:31 PM PDT
BY the way, on the $435 dollar hammers... Companies that make $435 hammers probably loose money on the deal. PEOPLE PLEASE UNDERSTAND when you sell even a hammer to the military the company has to test the hammer in accordance with Mil-SPEC plus that hammer has to have "a paperwork trail" and just the quotation process for the military can take months to years and MUCH MUCH time and paperwork that a company and employee have to put INTO the price of the $20 hammer. MANY companies simply will NOT quote because the "bean-counters" know that, in the long run, the hammer company will loose money on the $435 hammer. I know, we use to take unabridged book sized MIL RFQ's (military request for quotation) from the envelope to the garbage because to JUST READ the RFQ takes a worker a day minimum to get a handle on what is required, which is usually NOT take your regular hammer and quote us --it's CHANGE your hammer to out specifications.
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by ModerateVoice April 20, 2009 6:40 AM PDT
This is true. I worked at an electronic parts manufacturing company and we refused to deal with the government. By "paper trail", they mean PAPER trail, even to this day. There is no such thing as a digital archive of these documents (even if you digitize them, the paper is still required to be kept). Every document, every design revision, every communication, every notation about the part and every manufacturing test/QA record during the entire life of every part needs to be stored in cabinets (depending on the nature of the item security is necessary too, complete with additional background checks and security access control systems that all cost money for the manufacturer). All of this data needs to be kept for a very long time too, even after you end your relationship with the government. Many manufacturers also need to add real estate (add-ons, or new warehouses) to maintain the files if their relationship has gone on for any substantial length of time or they do a lot of business with the govt (a lot of 1 item sold or a lot of different items sold). All of this goes into the cost of the part. Now, a company that has never done govt business before may not fully realize what they're getting into and (outrageous as it sounds) manufacture a hammer they quote to the govt at $435+, they could still take a loss because they didn't factor in the need for an entirely dedicated storage facility in the next 5 years. Once they have that contract, they're stuck and have to do whatever it takes to keep those hammers going out at $435, even if that means they're now eating a $50 cost/hammer due to the fire-proof, secure, records storage cost.

I personally think it should be the government's responsibility to keep all of that data if they really want it that badly. I think its an unnecessary burden on what is quite often a small business who didn't realize the headache they were getting themselves into when they went after that contract.
by xilonic April 20, 2009 7:52 AM PDT
Indeed, the author should have done the homework before carelessly writing about taxpayers money wasted on "$435 hammers, $640 toilet seats, and $7,600 coffeemakers" - not everything is the way it seems on the surface. Perhaps he should have read Fred Reed column first: http://www.fredoneverything.net/Turse.shtml
by Super2online April 19, 2009 9:39 PM PDT
I really have to take exception to this "rugged" label. Since when are iPods now considered rugged? Can they be fallen on when jumping into a ditch to take cover? Thrown into the bottom of a back pack without getting scratched to hell? Dropped to grab your M16 quickly to defend yourself against incoming fire? The list goes on and on. Rugged, give me a break will ya!
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by Vegaman_Dan April 20, 2009 12:58 PM PDT
Considering that the OEM will void the warranty if the unit is dropped, exposed to dust/dirt/debris, high humidity or water, or exhibits signs of abuse... you know, the very things any solider sees in every day use.

Yeah, that's a good point. The consumer models certainly don't qualify as anything milspec. They might have some sort of ruggedized case for it though.
by hoopesr April 19, 2009 11:22 PM PDT
...."retails for less than $230.00".....yeah sure, because it is made to sell millions of units....that price does not begin to include development costs....had ipods/iphones been made for the military only, the unit cost would have had to reflect/include development costs of much lower production runs....they'd have had to be far far more expensive.
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by David Shorr April 20, 2009 3:47 AM PDT
Hey - my brother worked for the firm selling those expensive hammers. Those prices were completely approved by the government. And when your customer REQUIRES project administration expenses, shipping, packing and storage charges to be included in the price of EVERY item it changes the way things cost.

When a soldier needs a new bullet for his weapon and he's on the front line does it matter how much it cost to get the round in his chamber?

Anyway it was $436 for that hammer:
http://harpers.org/archive/1984/10/0025438
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by Commander_Spock April 20, 2009 7:49 AM PDT
Why should anyone care how much does an "hammer" for the military cost to get to it to them if an recalcitrant nuclear-armed missile from Russia, North Korea, Iran..... headed for U. S. territory cannot be taken out in time.

Ya know, like the cost of preventing those aircrafts that were hijacked on 9/11
by Commander_Spock April 20, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
This should have read: "Ya know, like the cost of preventing those aircrafts that were hijacked on 9/11 from reac
by Commander_Spock April 20, 2009 7:59 AM PDT
Again, This should have read: "Ya know, like the cost of preventing those aircrafts that were hijacked on 9/11 from reaching where they were headed."
by Jonnygthedrummer April 20, 2009 5:49 AM PDT
i guesss all those gun apps will come in handy now lol,,

"k guys lets do some training, remember never put ur finger by the touch until ur ready to fire, ready , aim , fire"
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by Vegaman_Dan April 20, 2009 1:00 PM PDT
Um, Sarge? My gun crashed and went back to the springboard. Tell the enemy to wait while I get this restarted. Rats- an update got pushed through and now it won't power up at all. Where's the unit's Apple Genius again?
by Logic786 April 20, 2009 8:14 AM PDT
The report notes that the <b>iPod</b> performs many functions in this time of<b> "networked warfare,"</b> enabling soldiers to be linked with other soldiers, as well as intelligence resources, such as aerial images from drones and translation software.

I never knew that Afghanistan and Iraq was a wifi hotspot. Ipod touch does not have anywhere internet, it needs wifi. Your working for Cnet Technology, but you do not know anything about a well-known product's functions.
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by sythara April 20, 2009 8:46 AM PDT
"Considering the military's history of being charged for $435 hammers, $640 toilet seats, and $7,600 coffeemakers by contractors, this is a great deal"

Gods, comments like these **** me off. Serisouly, that was back in the 70s and 80s and the aquisition process has chaned so these things don't happen anymore (unless the contract has been done in the 80s and still goes on now, LOGCAP)

And $435 hammers werent even commercial items, they were specially designed hammers for special purposes. Toilet seats on the other hand.... well stainless steel is expensive.
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by Sleep79 April 22, 2009 9:26 AM PDT
Good thing there was a link to the original Newsweek article. All that stuff about taking photos and getting local intel and controlling/communicating with drones is "in development".
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