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March 13, 2009 7:17 AM PDT

Sirius XM tuning in to iPhone application

by Dawn Kawamoto
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Update at 8:19 a.m. PDT, with comment from Sirius XM.

Sirius XM is planning to launch an iPhone application by June in a move to expand its market, the satellite service provider said Thursday during an analyst conference call.

The iPhone application will be available to Apple's U.S. iPhone users and Sirius XM customers, as well as to iPod Touch Wi-Fi users.

Sirius XM charges $12.95 per month for its Internet radio service. It is not immediately clear whether iPhone and iPod users will incur the same service fees.

A Sirius XM representative declined comment, other than to refer to the statement made by President Jim Meyer during the fourth-quarter conference call with analysts. In it, Meyer said:

On another exciting front we have been testing a number of initiatives to make the Sirius XM content and experience more ubiquitous. As noted during our shareholders' meeting in December, Sirius XM has been working on an application that will allow subscribers to stream our Internet content to their iPhones and iPod Touch devices. When released, this application will permit an estimated 7 million U.S. iPhone users and additional iTouch users to access Sirius and XM Internet content.

This will allow existing subscribers with a paid streaming subscription to access our content. This will also allow new customers to subscribe to our service without having to buy a radio. This is a large and interesting opportunity that will maintain our subscription-based economics while providing customers easier access to our content through means other than our traditional satellite-based platform. We are currently in rigorous applications testing and plan to launch in the second quarter."

For Sirius, the Apple deal is something its been working toward for at least four years. Back in 2005, Sirius expressed interest in partnering with Apple to put its satellite service on the iPod. But Apple CEO Steve Jobs didn't reciprocate.

In securing a deal with Apple, Sirius may be able to expand its market by riding on the popularity of the iPhone and iPod.

The company completed its long-sought mega-merger with XM Satellite Radio last year, a deal that executives of the companies had said was necessary as they faced increased competition from Internet music services, such as Apple's iTunes.

Dawn Kawamoto covers enterprise security and financial news relating to technology for CNET News. E-mail Dawn.
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by scaught78 March 13, 2009 7:36 AM PDT
Nice!!
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by QuetzalcoatlUSA March 13, 2009 8:06 AM PDT
Actually, they charge $12.95 for Internet-only radio service. For subscribers who already have receivers, the service is free.
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by skycorgan March 13, 2009 10:02 AM PDT
Since the merger of XM & Sirius, that policy was altered; XM and Sirius listeners must now "upgrade" to listen to online radio at $2.99 per month. Despite the additional charge, however, many content options available on the devices are not available within the online interface.

The satellite radio service is great for vehicles where you do not have to worry about cell phone signals or finding a terrestrial radio station you like. However, when it comes to in-home listening, the online options from other providers are far superior for music-based content; talk based content, however, does not seem to have a comparable online equivalent to what Sirius XM offers. I personally listen to more music because the talk stations have too many commercials; they are just feeds from the content providers, such as CNN, Fox News, etc., and nothing more than that. Due the music leanings, I find utilizing services such as Slacker, Pandora, etc. a far more pleasurable experience than Sirius XM's clunky online player and additional costs for preprogramed content, as opposed to customizable content.
by paulimusmaximus March 13, 2009 6:19 PM PDT
Yeah, Sirius just sent me a letter in the mail that I would need to upgrade to listen online. The only thing is I haven't been a customer for 4 months. I think the charge is total crap though. A while ago when internet radio wasn't so great, I would listen to Sirius all the time online. That is the only thing that kept me as a customer because I wasn't driving very much then. But now that internet radio is great (I listen to slacker.com nonstop, and I don't drive much anymore again, I dropped Sirius. You only basically get music stations, and Howard Stern online anyway. So why would any smart iPhone user pay to listen to just music on Sirius (unless they already have it) when they can get Pandora for free.
by pase121 March 13, 2009 10:57 PM PDT
skycorgan & paulimusmaximus thats interesting because Ive had XM for a while and I still listen to it online without an additional charge. Do you know if older customer are grandfathered maybe?
by timster799 May 2, 2009 5:37 PM PDT
Actually, the internet radio service is NOT free to current subscribers, not unless you pay your satellite subscription fee by the year. All other current Sirius subscribers will pay a small price in addition per month, probably less than $4 per month in addition to your current subscription price.
by badvox July 22, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Actually it is NOT free for current subscribers. I have been a Sirius customer for over 3 years now and I cannot use the app. You have to have a premium subscription in order to use it. Since I am grandfathered into internet service I do not qualify for use of the iPhone App.

Which IMHO blows!!
by tenshoes March 13, 2009 8:06 AM PDT
Cool idea. I was wondering when they would do this. Given their recent addition of a fee for subscribers to use the online player, I would assume there will be a fee for this as well. But I wonder about how competitive they will be with free radio iphone apps like Pandora? I have XM in one of my cars and like the selection and service. In my other car, I stream Pandora through my iphone (using the Kensington LiquidAux - works great). I don't see myself paying more to have XM on the iphone as well.
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by ibeetle March 13, 2009 8:47 AM PDT
I suspect it will be free for a very brief period (90 days?) just to try and get you hooked then they will start with the fees.
by shetaan819 March 13, 2009 8:09 AM PDT
Will the sound quality be any better than its 'slightly better than FM' sound quality on its devices ?
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by ibeetle March 13, 2009 8:49 AM PDT
God! You are 100% right. In fact, because of signal compression and other variables there is chance it will actually be worse than "slightly better..."
by Cajunfit March 13, 2009 9:28 AM PDT
I haven't listened to my XM Radio since I purchased my iPhone. Free services like Pandora, Flycast Radio, Slacker and SHOUTcast are all on my phone, and I am actually much happier setting up channels to play what I want to hear. I am sure that there are special programs/services that some people might want to keep, but I can't justify XM Radio pricing while owning the iPhone. It has been 4 months, and nothing has called me back to XM. Unfortunately, I paid for a year in advance.
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by skinman March 13, 2009 10:09 AM PDT
Sirius was great. Sirius XM has been a steady degradation of product (eliminated best stations) , quality (dropped from CD quality to FM quality signal), price (Up, up, and away), and customer service. I cancelled all receivers on my charter account, and although they claim they will refund the remaining balance, they insist I call them, wait on hold for 20 minutes, get transferred, hold another 20 minutes, then get disconnected. Pathetic.

Check their stock - they're about to belly up, so don't be surprised oif you service gets interrupted with no refund!
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by iBuzz March 13, 2009 12:36 PM PDT
Sirius XM is streaming radio, right? That means you can't skip a song that you don't like. Why would I want that, especially, like someone else mentioned, there are great Internet radio apps for the iPhone like Slacker and Pandora that do let you skip songs.
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by lil-yankee March 15, 2009 7:34 AM PDT
This would have been nicer if they would have fallowed to the initial plan and developed for the ps3 instead; The iphone already has many internet streaming radio applications and seriously, i don't think that we would like to drain our battery listening to the radio over the internet. I'm just thinking how quick a data application sucks my iphone battery, something like Google maps, which constantly updates over the internet to determine my exact location, using constant buffer like I would think Sirius will require, unless of course, you buffer each song as a whole and only once per song. If this last is true then expect at&t's services to be bloated by bits downloaded.
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by dadaa006 March 15, 2009 9:09 AM PDT
How long, in this day and age, do we expect any service to remain free? Good things do come to an end.
Why wouldn't a company start charging some sort of fee in order to raise its profits. Its a financial jungle out there. The survival of the fittest. Slacker and Pandora are good features, even still, how long do we think they'll remain free? One thing about Apple, even if they have to make changes, they always look out for their customers. Its only fair that we understand their position, and continue to support them. Trust them.
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by santakrooz March 15, 2009 7:11 PM PDT
I would go for XM on iPhone. thought it's not a feaure requested on iphonewishlist.com

http://www.iphonewishlist.com
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by IphoneGeek March 16, 2009 5:46 AM PDT
now its June...good grief. I thought I heard the last week that the release was happening soon esp after the defeat of Starplayrs version. This waiting game is insane!
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by scaught78 March 16, 2009 9:06 AM PDT
Tell me about it. I just want it already!! They block Internet music streaming at my work. I want my Sirius back and was hoping my iPhone would be just the ticket.
by IphoneGeek March 16, 2009 5:48 AM PDT
this smart iphone user likes talk radio and cannot stream the same talk shows on pandora. =P
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by mojomotiv8ergr8one4eva March 18, 2009 2:00 AM PDT
Does anyone know if you will be able to purchase the song sir/xm is streaming while or after its playing to your iphone/touch?
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by lilmissrocky March 20, 2009 9:00 AM PDT
I currently use Pandora and absolutely love it, but if I do not alternate stations everyday, I hear repetitive songs. I am tempted to get the Sirius XM application when it debuts, but I probably won't.
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by JWILLI44 March 31, 2009 3:39 PM PDT
This app will be great for attracting new customers. Most people that try sirius xm love the service. People that try the service usually end up keeping it. The alternative of free radio, downloaded music is not comparable as far as variety and content quality. The problem I have seen is that to introduce someone to satelite radio, they had to buy a new car to get exposed to it. Sure, I know people can go to a retail store and buy it for their car or even portable. However, has anyone ever gone to Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc and tried to find the Sirius XM section? It is out of site lately. Then, you would have to buy a radio to try it out. You could buy one affordable for your car, then pay to have it installed. You could spend a few hundred dollars for a portable radio such as the XMP3. This forces you to make a choice, your IPOD or try a satelite service? If you already have an IPOD, chances are you won't spend another few hundred dollars for a portable satelite player. Or have one installed in your car if you already have an IPOD. With this app, those that have been curious about the service can give it a try. They dont need to buy new equipment or a new car. And they can try it for a limited time, to see if they like it. most likey they can try for free for a few months. If they can get 20% of IPhone users to sign up, how big is that? Then think other smartphones like windows mobile, blackberry etc. This app and others like it may eventually overtake sirius xm's hardware and allow people to enjoy without the upfront cost that i think kept people away from the service. The service is great, but few people I know, besides me, have spent hundreds for equipment then pay monthly for service. This can help solve that issue.
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by valvalg April 10, 2009 1:39 PM PDT
I am a Sirius subscriber and am buying the next iPhone.
This may sound stupid, but would I be able to listen to sirius stream while driving in car or do you have to be in a Wi Fi hot spot?
I'm new to using cell phone for internet... Thanks : )
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by iphoneapps April 27, 2009 5:50 PM PDT
If I already subscribe to XM Sirius for my car radio, will I still have to pay for their iPhone app? The app should be free to people who already have subscriptions. On another note, I would rather have a standalone app with only one favorite radio station on it than have an aggregation of hundreds or thousands of stations. At the Toy Lounge - http://thetoylounge.com/radio-stations - we create iPhone apps for radio stations, both terrestrial and internet only.
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