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April 26, 2009 11:15 AM PDT

Report: First Android Netbook to cost $250

by Steven Musil
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The first Netbook running Google's Android operating system is expected to be available in the next three months and cost about $250, according to a Computerworld report.

The Alpha 680, as the laptop is known as, is going through final testing at Guangzhou Skytone Transmission Technologies, Skytone co-founder Nixon White told the site.

The Netbook uses a 533MHz ARM 11 CPU and sports a 7-inch LCD screen, keyboard, touchpad, and built-in Wi-Fi, according to the report. However, the Alpha 680's 2-cell battery will last only two to four hours while surfing the Internet, much lower than the expected 12 hours.

Android is a Linux-based operating system originally designed for cell phones, but now experts are predicting that the open-source operating system could be used on other devices, such as the emerging low-cost laptops known as Netbooks. In fact, market research firm Ovum recently predicted that Android-powered Netbooks will emerge in 2009, as manufacturers attempt to drive the price of Netbooks to around $200 or less.

Hewlett-Packard is also reportedly considering using Android on its low-cost Netbooks, though an executive declined to say for certain whether HP plans to sell Android devices. Asustek Computer has already said it is considering using Android, and Dell is also considering the software for its upcoming smartphone.

Linux-based software such as Android is attractive because it is free, while Microsoft charges a hefty licensing fee for the Windows operating system. In order to hit super low price points, manufacturers need to cut costs wherever they can and that means ditching Microsoft's Windows software.

Steven Musil is the night news editor at CNET News. Before joining CNET News in 2000, Steven spent 10 years at various Bay Area newspapers. E-mail Steven.
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by tipoo_ April 26, 2009 11:38 AM PDT
Hmm, not bad for the first ARM + Android netbook, but i was looking forward to a cheap ARM based netbook for 100 bucks. Meh, i'm sure it will come eventually.
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by MMC Racing April 26, 2009 11:46 AM PDT
Might be ok if we can format it and put XP on it.
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by SIGHUP April 26, 2009 12:01 PM PDT
I am not real sure you would want to run XP on a 533MHz ARM 11 CPU. Its pretty much a cell phone CPU.
by the_ricochet April 26, 2009 12:03 PM PDT
@MMC Racing

Errr..did you entirely miss the point?
by April 26, 2009 1:05 PM PDT
@SIGHUP & the_ricochet

You're clearly unaware of XP embedded..
by getwired April 26, 2009 1:43 PM PDT
To the poster with no name - you're clearly unaware that XP Embedded ONLY runs on x86 (there is no 64-bit variant either). No other CPU architecture is supported by Embedded.
by rollcage April 26, 2009 3:27 PM PDT
Yeah, Windows CE runs on ARM processors, but it would basically be WinMo anyways. It's not what I'd want running on a cheap netbook (but I repeat myself). Then again, I'm not in the market for a netbook either. ;)
by professionaladventurer April 26, 2009 3:35 PM PDT
I can't believe you guys fell for that....ha ha ha!
by Random_Walk April 27, 2009 9:42 AM PDT
LOL! In all seriousness though, if you're lucky you might get WinCE going on it (bleech!)

One bit that is apparent - if the cost of Netbooks drops to ~$250 or less, the cost of Windows will be frickin' huge in teh margin, and unless Redmond pulls an ARM version out of their backsides, may find themselves excluded entirely.
by La_Mont April 26, 2009 12:03 PM PDT
All the netbook companies are boring me senseless. Although some say they offer linux OS, the retailers are not stocking them. Get the non microsoft OS's on the shelves. I will not buy a netbook with microsoft pre-installed, I absolutely don't want it.
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by ihackmore April 26, 2009 12:04 PM PDT
Hmm ... name reminds me of the Altair 680, MITS' 6800-based followup to the Altair 8800.
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by Grubby-yo April 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
If there is such an effort drop prices why not produce netbooks with Ubuntu and or Fedora? They seem stable enough for mainstream production, or am I missing something?
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by tm_anon April 27, 2009 1:52 AM PDT
They want a big name. Google has the brand name appeal manufacturors want even though Ubuntu has a netbook remix and many other Linux distros would make those machines run extremely well. (puppy Linux anyone?)
by ggruschow April 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
I don't understand the point of even releasing it except to hackers? You can buy a 9" netbook from dell that beats every spec right now - including price.
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by CyR00k April 26, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
This is actually kinda disappointing news. The OS may be great but with only a 7" screen and 2 cell battery for $250, I'm not gonna buy it. The Asus EEE running linux, with an 8.9" screen and 9 cell battery is only $275. Maybe the price will change before it is actually released, but I can't see it selling too well at $250.
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by Papa Chango April 27, 2009 8:42 AM PDT
I have to agree. I bought an EEE and an Acer One for the same price as you did so I was expecting these to be closer to 200$..
Im writing from one right now using Mandriva 2009 with KDE4.2 and its not only stunningly beautiful but its a workhorse on the road. I have FF, OO, Thunderbird, Kopete, Skype, Amarok, Dolphin open right now and will be using later on Digikam to DL/edit photos and Audacity to edit some interviews I did for a science podcast.

Im pretty sure I couldnt do as much with the arm processor but instead of buying a portable DVD player for the kids for 100-150$, I would rather get them each their own netbook for 199$.
My wife uses hers for web-email as well as viewing pictures at her mom's so she would also be a good candidate for one too. (wifey and kids didnt miss a beat when we switched to KDE desktops)

Of course, we all expect these prices to drop eventually, but its just the starting price is too close to what we paid for the.... beefier (!) netbooks .
Still, 250$ this summer could very well be 199$ by Xmas which is what we almost paid for the Wii Board and that snowboard game last Christmas.
by April 26, 2009 1:03 PM PDT
You're clearly unaware of XP embedded..
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by rollcage April 26, 2009 1:10 PM PDT
XP embedded won't run on an ARM processor. Windows CE could work, but you'd basically end up with WinMo that way. I think Android is a better option for this application though.
by Random_Walk April 27, 2009 9:44 AM PDT
ROTFLMAO! XP Embedded has no ARM version - it requires x86 as well.
by Spanwite April 26, 2009 1:25 PM PDT
All Windows OS's need more powerfully CPU's as the new OS coming to market!
By the time Microsoft is ready with a slim OS, the market has moved on already!
Slim and flexible is not in MS's vocabulary!

PS: I have just MS, so relax ;-)
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by ZetaZeta_ April 26, 2009 4:04 PM PDT
NT 4 is pretty slim.
by DarkHawke April 26, 2009 4:59 PM PDT
By ALL reports, Win 7 runs just great on netbooks.
by BGXterra April 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT
yes it does. i have been running win7 on a eeepc 1000ha with 1GB or ram and it runs great. i can only see some lag in some videos but i attribute that to the crappy intel video
by tm_anon April 27, 2009 1:57 AM PDT
@BGXterra

I'm running a desktop with comparable specs to any netbook around (yes it's ancient). Running it with Ubuntu 9.04 and no lag for video. Even have a video card with worse specs than Intel imbedded (NVidia Geforce 4000, wasn't even top of the line 3 years ago when I bought it).

@DarkHawke

Win 7 runs fine on netbooks, won't say it runs great until it can run Aero at the specs provided along with every other bell and whistle the OS has to offer. I'm not saying it has to run high end games but the OS itself should have no trouble, that includes those new little perks that are the reason most people want the newest thing out.
by monkeyfun14 April 26, 2009 2:39 PM PDT
This is nothing more then basically a cell phone.

I doubt it could run a flash game without choking.
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by money-matters April 26, 2009 4:55 PM PDT
why would you want to run a game on a netbook?

A netbook is designed to SURF THE NET, if you want to play games, thats what laptops or computers are for... :)
by DarkHawke April 26, 2009 5:02 PM PDT
Well, he did say a FLASH game, and I should think that anything "designed to SURF THE NET" would be able to handle a Flash game, or your average "casual" game (e.g. Bejeweled). Even if it is virtually a cell phone, you CAN play games on them boys, ya know.
by ikramerica--2008 April 26, 2009 4:56 PM PDT
Why does an Android phone (unsubsidized $400) cost more than the NetBook? Miniaturization and cell phone radio aside, it still shows how overpriced all phone hardware is...
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by TJwithAsadIQ April 26, 2009 5:04 PM PDT
"However, the Alpha 680's 2-cell battery will last only two to four hours while surfing the Internet, much lower than the expected 12 hours."

So...they designed for 12 hours and only got 2-4?!?! Hope they fired their battery designer.
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by jackdaniels08 April 26, 2009 6:06 PM PDT
Wow that's less expensive than an iPhone. And predicting in no time a Netbook running Android OS will go for less than $100. Just like DVD players the price will go real low. This is good news for consumers.
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by ikramerica--2008 April 26, 2009 9:46 PM PDT
All the DVD players under $100 got so unreliable, they became worthless. The quality of electronics when they drop below $100 is frighteningly bad. It's bad for consumers when, to compete, ALL quality is thrown out the window, and everybody loses by having products that barely last a year.
by pwoon April 30, 2009 9:59 PM PDT
all dvd players under $100 are unreliable? Mmm. maybe I lucked out then. All of mine are working, even after 4 years.
by Myshkin57 April 26, 2009 6:40 PM PDT
I have a 10-inch laptop and love it, but I don't understand having anything smaller. I have fairly thin fingers and am an experienced typist and I don't think I could do much with something that small that I couldn't do with a web-enabled cellphone.
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by ikramerica--2008 April 26, 2009 9:47 PM PDT
I had a 12" laptop at first, and when I went to a 14", I couldn't imagine using a smaller one for any length of time. Now with the 15.4" widescreen, it's still about the same size (translated to 4:3 ratio), and I still can't see going smaller.
by jayperk April 26, 2009 6:40 PM PDT
2-4 hour battery life? Major FAIL.
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by tm_anon April 27, 2009 1:59 AM PDT
That's about the same battery life as most new laptops today. I imagine they used the 2-cell battery to keep the price down.
by palex9 April 26, 2009 6:52 PM PDT
why buy a netbook with a lousy 2 cell battery when you can get a Asus or Acer netbook with an 8 cell battery (plus a whole lot more) for about $100 more?
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by jlee888 April 26, 2009 6:59 PM PDT
You are absolutely right. Android runs on the G1 for a full day. I can't believe with a much larger form factor they wouldn't be able to run 10-12 hours on a netbook.

Its a MAJOR disapointment.
by ikramerica--2008 April 26, 2009 9:47 PM PDT
The screen uses a lot of juice...
by April 26, 2009 7:40 PM PDT
Why buy a netbook in the first place? I can buy a fully functional notebook with a dual core processor for $400. Why would I want to buy a crippled box with no future and no capabilities? I'd rather just use my phone if what I want is portability.
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by ikramerica--2008 April 26, 2009 9:49 PM PDT
This is where Apple competes. The iPhone/iPod Touch is what you talk about. Apple competes in this "ultraportable, limited functionality web computer space" with their products just as Palm does with theirs.
by celticbrewer April 27, 2009 9:30 AM PDT
agreed. I was looking at netbooks for quite a while and almost pulled the trigger, but for an extra hundred, I got a much beefier laptop. It all came down to: How many times am I going to be on the road in a wifi location where I'd say, "dang, I wish I brought my laptop so I could surf the net right now." Maybe once or twice a year? This is a niche market between smart phones (which at least could use cell networks if there's no wifi) and a real laptop.
by blafouille April 26, 2009 7:58 PM PDT
Good news,perhaps not perfect for a start but it will improve ..Try window on it will be a waste or some kind of masochism...
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by monkeyfun14 April 26, 2009 9:29 PM PDT
Lmao this was supposed to kill Windows and Intel?

A underpowered netbook that can barely only pull 2 - 4 hours? LMFAO
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by tm_anon April 27, 2009 2:03 AM PDT
it's so sad when you're laughing at the same battery life I've found most new laptops come with until you upgrade the battery.

And who said it was supposed to kill Windows and Intel? It's providing a small form factor and helping to lower the price of the netbook.
by nsmoly April 27, 2009 12:43 AM PDT
I wonder how these netbooks differ from original netbooks that were shipped with Linux flavors on them? When netbooks with Windows XP hit the market all Linux netbooks quickly disappeared because no one wanted them. Android may see the same end (this time Win7 will help though).
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by tm_anon April 27, 2009 2:27 AM PDT
Just in case you haven't realized it yet. Here's a link to disprove your comment that nobody wants Linux on netbooks.'

http://blogs.computerworld.com/ubuntu_accuses_microsoft_of_linux_netbook_fud

"LaBlanc opened by claiming that almost all netbooks sold today are sold with Windows. Well, no, not really. The numbers LaBlanc cites are from NPD's sales survey. NPD focuses on brick-and-mortar U.S. sales, not overall sales. Notice how many Linux systems you see at Best Buy? NPD numbers say a lot more about retail channel sales than it does over-all sales. Besides, as Canonical's director of business development Kenyon wrote, "However here is an interesting fact--when customers are offered choice on equally well-engineered computers around a third will select Ubuntu over XP." "

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/mowi/article.php/3782266/The+Netbook+OS+Question:+Windows+XP+vs.+Linux.htm

Just the fact the second article was written proves at the very least that the author was considering Linux and yes, the author counts against that blanket statement you made.
by celticbrewer April 27, 2009 9:35 AM PDT
"However here is an interesting fact--when customers are offered choice on equally well-engineered computers around a third will select Ubuntu over XP"

Is the price the same? A similar report said that yes, people purchased linux versions in surprisingly high numbers mostly because they were cheaper. And a vast majority of those people then returned the netbooks because they didn't like Linux.

Hey, I'm a Linux fan, so don't get me wrong. But the vast amount of computer users (which is just about everyone these days- including grandma) still haven't figured out Linux. Maybe android will fare better since google is good at dumbing things down.
by gggg sssss April 27, 2009 2:27 PM PDT
why would any sane person buy linux at the same price as XP? or even better, a lite version of XP
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