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April 24, 2009 4:00 AM PDT

RealTime: No YouTube revolution yet

by Stephen Shankland
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YouTube RealTime, a new technology that brings an as-it-happens social aspect to Google's video-sharing site, shows promise but suffers shortcomings.

RealTime has the potential to bring some of the communal aspects of TV to the more solitary phenomenon of online video. With it, a toolbar across the bottom of a YouTube page shows you what your friends are watching and commenting on, shows them what you're up to, and pops up invitations from friends who want you to see something. It's an opt-in service, and you can temporarily go into a private mode, so you can still close the curtains if you want.

YouTube RealTime can show what your friends are watching.

YouTube RealTime can show what your friends are watching.

(Credit: Screenshot by Stephen Shankland/CNET)

RealTime launched publicly on Wednesday through an invitation-only viral marketing campaign, with each invitee getting 25 invitations to dole out. Unfortunately for Google, that's where my first problems arrived.

People love to share amusing videos on YouTube by e-mail, Twitter, blogs, and instant messaging, so it might appear at first blush that YouTube is ripe for an injection of social activity.

The YouTube social network
The YouTube social life largely happens outside YouTube itself today, but RealTime tries to bring that activity into YouTube's domain.

YouTube has its own infrastructure for granting friend status to other YouTube members, sending messages to people, and tracking what they're up to. YouTube RealTime relies on that infrastructure.

So the first thing you're going to have to do to make it useful is figure out how to use it and build yourself a whole new social network. Perhaps you have one already on hand, but nobody I know does, and a lot of people I know already have social-network invitation fatigue.

If you do get a YouTube RealTime invitation from some Net hipster who's already a friend, you'll soon have 25 invitations of your own to extend, but before you can use them, you'll have to send out the necessary friend requests. It's unfortunate that Google couldn't take advantage of social graph information already established at Gmail, Orkut, Picasa, Google profiles, or wherever else Google users already have painstakingly built them up.

A friend's invitation to watch a video looks like this.

A friend's invitation to watch a video looks like this.

(Credit: Screenshot by Stephen Shankland/CNET)

However, once people are your friends, you can invite them to use RealTime; the invitation is actually more of a notification that the feature will be enabled when they next log in to the YouTube. When they do so, the RealTime toolbar will appear on the bottom of their YouTube pages.

Even after I sorted out my confusion about the differences between inviting people to be my YouTube friends vs my RealTime friends, I had some problems Wednesday with the service. At times people I knew to be online at YouTube showed to be otherwise. However, the problem passed as the day wore on.

Not revelatory
This brings me to my second letdown with the service. RealTime didn't really make using YouTube any different for me. It didn't make me realize, "Oh, so that's what I've been missing about YouTube!"

I'm as big a fan of viral videos as anyone, and I'm accustomed to sending the latest finds individually to a few select friends by e-mail or IM or broadly over Twitter or maybe even a blog post. Perhaps if I had dedicated moments of exploring videos collectively with my friends RealTime would be more relevant, but for now, those existing communication channels work fine and don't require that my friends actually be logged into YouTube or included in my social network there.

When you're first signed in, RealTime will require you to enable it.

When you're first signed in, RealTime will require you to enable it.

(Credit: Screenshot by Stephen Shankland/CNET)

But what's next? Google doubtless isn't done with YouTube RealTime, though, and I could see this being different and perhaps more compelling for some YouTube users.

Here's one idea: unify it with Gmail's IM and video chat technology so you could communicate in other ways besides just messages that "Stephen has shared a video with you."

Here's another: a split-screen interface that shows thumbnails of the actual videos your friends are watching. Clicking on one puts it front and center in the YouTube interface.

So despite my lukewarm reaction to the service overall, I could be persuaded to come around if Google makes something more revolutionary out of it.

Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.
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by He_And_Him_Studios April 24, 2009 8:02 AM PDT
I don;t like mte idea, especially if I'm trying to hide what I'm looking at from people like my parents/goood freinds.
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by He_And_Him_Studios April 24, 2009 8:03 AM PDT
I meant "I don't like the idea" had to rush through it, teacher was coming
by ChrisLang April 24, 2009 8:36 AM PDT
Why would Google not allow Google Friend Connect friends in the RealTime loop? My question is did you send people who you were already GFC friends with the invites? In the end it will integrate, I can tell you that.

However there is allot of conjecture here though. And YouTube friends are Google Friend Connect friends, just watch for the Gmail addresses to be added in Gmail just like GFC widgets when new friends become mutuals.

Chris Lang
http://googlingsocial.com
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by ChrisLang April 24, 2009 8:51 AM PDT
What is revolutionary is that YouTube friends ARE Google Friend Connect friends. With my large GFC network I can see that it immediately overlaps. That is way more important than RealTime. Since I am in Internet marketing I have way more friends in GFC that also have YouTube accounts.

Also consider this, think real time collaboration on a video, but more like a NetMetting real time viewing. That is where this is going, not just so you and your buddies can IM each other and LOL back and forth.

Why would Google not allow Google Friend Connect friends in the RealTime loop? My question is did you send people who you were already GFC friends with YouTube channels the invites? In the end it will integrate, I can tell you that. If you don't have a YouTube channel then there is no overlap right now.

You can have all the GFC friends in the world but if they don't have a YouTube channel then you are not going to see them. Right now there is no blanket log in and there is not one on Picassa either, you still have to create a profile and URL, so that statement is inaccurate too.

However there is still allot of conjecture for all of us though. And YouTube friends are Google Friend Connect friends, just watch for the Gmail addresses to be added in Gmail just like GFC widgets when new friends become mutuals.

Chris Lang
http://googlingsocial.com
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by herc9 April 26, 2009 4:27 PM PDT
It's a great idea, but i stil don't think there is a real reason to actually manage a friends list on YouTube, and I'm afraid to say, I personally don't believe this will be any reason to actually start managing a friends list.

Its not a bad feature tho, I'm sure many people will actually use...

I also think Google should make some sort of primary account for all of its sites and one area to manage everything, its just getting too confusing...

Regards everyone,
Hercules
business2press.com
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by herbg3 April 27, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
I invented YouTube!
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