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December 2, 2008 10:00 AM PST

PS3 firmware update enables full-screen flash video

by Matthew Moskovciak

Sony issued firmware upgrade 2.53 for the PlayStation 3 Tuesday, enabling full-screen flash video playback.

Full-screen flash video for the browser might seem like a minor upgrade, but it's been a highly desired feature for those who use their PS3s for online video services like Hulu and YouTube. We also noticed that the new flash upgrade enabled us to select the "480p" option in Hulu, which provides a significantly better image quality, especially on a big-screen HDTV.

The full-screen and 480p options are nice, but we couldn't help but notice that simply watching full-screen Hulu on our laptop looked better. While the resolution looked pretty close between the two screens, motion on the PS3 looked significantly worse, with dropped frames. For comparison, motion was completely fluid and natural on our laptop in full-screen mode--and that was with a wireless connection (the PS3 was wired).

Once we took Hulu out of full-screen mode on the PS3, motion was handled about as well as on the laptop and we were able to manually zoom the screen to get full-screen playback without the motion issues. We're not sure what's holding back flawless full-screen flash video playback in the browser, but given the PS3's powerful processor, we expect more.

YouTube playback wasn't perfect, either. The first two clips we tried would play back audio, but no video. The third clip worked, and we were able to full-screen it and use the "high definition" option as well. Again, the option to go full screen is great, but we really expect full compatibility at this phase. Lastly, when we went to exit the browser and return to the main PS3 interface, the entire system hung up and we had to reboot.

The bottom line is that for the smoothest playback of full-screen flash video content, we still found that manually zooming offered the best experience, although it's a pain to get videos perfectly centered manually. Hopefully Sony offers another update to further improve flash video performance in full-screen mode. If we could get that, the PS3 would be a more viable option for those looking to ditch the cable box and get their programming via free Internet alternatives.

Covering home audio and video, Matthew Moskovciak helps CNET readers find the best sights and sounds for their home theaters. E-mail Matthew.
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by hafenbrack December 2, 2008 10:32 AM PST
Great news and sounds like they probable worked out a few more of the flash "bugs". I would be curious for this test what size television and laptop were you using? How about testing out how the laptop handles displaying that feed on the TV, wouldn't that be a more comparable test, due to the amount of upscaling?
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by Brett109 December 2, 2008 10:54 AM PST
Hope this gets worked out soon as I open my PS3 "family gift" on Christmas. My wife loves Hulu and this should help keep me out of any hot water. The problem is she'll want to watch Hulu or online episodes and I'll be wanting to play MGS4.
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by PhoenixFiresky December 2, 2008 12:03 PM PST
If they could get the bugs worked out, I'd buy it. Our household relies on streaming video from sites such as Hulu (instead of paying big bucks for cable) but watching on a small screen can be a pain. I've been looking into possible solutions - all the way from throwing out our TV and buying a desktop with a larger monitor and TV card to dedicate to entertainment, to keeping the TV and buying a box that sends video to the television- and I had just about decided to hold out a little longer. But, if the PS3 can provide me with gaming, Blueray, AND streaming video...well, that just pushes it over into the "Buy" column. On the other hand, for us to be happy, the video will have to play well. So while the PS3 is at the top of the list, until they solve that issue, I'll still be keeping my checkbook closed.
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by make_or_break December 2, 2008 1:33 PM PST
I guess I'm not surprised by the PS3's frame rate issues. I've been less than impressed by my own PS3's deficiencies in rendering smoothly whenever the gaming environment gets hot and heavy on the screen. Even a title as simple as GT5P creates significant jitter in the frame rate whenever there's a half dozen or so cars on the screen at one time, particularly when one or two kick up a gravel cloud and the PS3 tries to render it.

While it's for the most part tolerable, it's still not what expected from a machine that supposedly has this uber processing core that's supposed to smoke the pants off of a 360 or even a better-than-average PC. The jerkiness is nowhere as bad as Crysis on my dedicated gaming box, but it still feels just as disappointing and flustering.
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by Lerianis December 2, 2008 2:23 PM PST
All computers have problems with full-screen flash playback for some reason, especially on hulu. I've noticed "jitteriness" when playing Hulu in a full-screen Window at 1920*1200 on the gaming/media laptop my family just got.... doesn't make sense to me, when it can play Crysis on high settings at 1920*1200 with no problems whatsoever.
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by dirty55409 December 2, 2008 2:42 PM PST
How bout we get full support for DivX/AVI formats too Sony! "Format Not Supported" makes me want to throw out my 60gb PS3! Luckily my 360 plays them flawlessly.
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by bballsports December 2, 2008 7:28 PM PST
"dirty55409"
Maybe you have not turned your Playstation 3 on in a while, because Sony has added support for DivX and Avi files. At least check out some facts before you make incorrect assumptions.
by chuchucuhi December 2, 2008 7:40 PM PST
Well they probably will someday but those who developed the tools may not have had access to the best SDK or tools to use the processor the way it was intended based on architecture.
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by dirty55409 December 2, 2008 8:49 PM PST
"bballsports"
I'm afraid like many other PS3 owners, I still get the wonderful "The data type is not supported"(800288BF) error message when I try to stream most of my AVI files. about 1 out of every 50 movies work though. Pretty pathetic. Never had one fail to stream to my Xbox 360 though.
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by bourbonquest December 2, 2008 9:32 PM PST
Problem solved: I use PlayOn to access Hulu and Netflix and have no problems with any of this. PlayOn is great and allows you to access these sites w/o even opening the web browser: No need to worry about dropped frames or that awful resizing you have to do when watching Hulu through the browser. If you want the ultimate multimedia set-up, do what I do: have a NAS device with all your music/photos/videos stored and install TVersity on a PC in your house to access your owned media. Use PlayOn to ditch cable and watch every episode on Hulu and movie on Netflix via the PS3. That is your answer PhoenixFirefly, and yes, Sony could definately do a better job unleashing the PS3 potential as this stuff should be native by now.
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by darthstupid December 2, 2008 10:31 PM PST
Unfortunately PlayOn will cost you $30 to use.
by darthstupid December 2, 2008 10:28 PM PST
Like the author of this article I had a similar experience. Strangeness with audio and video, stuttery dropped frames, and lastly it crashed. I had to shut the system off (fortunately just by hitting the PS button, not a hard reset).
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by Liquidx01 December 3, 2008 1:53 AM PST
Also having the same issues with Youtube. Some play fine, some audio only and many times those that do play fine have annoying sync issues between the audio and video. It's more apparent on the PS3 on videos that I've viewed many times before without issues via my laptop. As with the author, I can't understand why a machine as capable as he PS3 can't get past these annoyances.

The PS3 is a great multimedia tool with a few quirks... too bad the gaming aspect of it is sub par, IMO.
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by checkingout December 3, 2008 4:06 PM PST
Well my PS3 won't play many Divx/AVI videos either - and I have tried. The best format the my PS3 allows me to use is WMV.

Playon is great but is still on Beta and has flaws. Main flaws seem to be related to the way the PS3 gives up on a video stream. But for the most part it does a good job of playing Hulu and Netflix.
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by ohiostfbfan December 3, 2008 7:20 PM PST
Mp4 looks much better on the PS3 than WMV.
by the_amazing_dave December 5, 2008 11:03 AM PST
Has anyone tried streaming Netflix over the PS3 browser? How does it look? I'm looking into different option for an entertainment center and it seems like the PS3 is almost a perfect all-in-one system: video game console, blu-ray player, and some features of the duet squeezebox and netflix roku (stream music from Rhapsody or movies from Netflix using the browser). Any comments?
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by checkingout December 6, 2008 5:53 AM PST
ohiostfbfan,

I can't get MP4's to work for crap! What settings are you using?
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by ThaRide December 6, 2008 12:22 PM PST
Have you guys tried TVersity? I read an article on CNET about using it with the PS3 and I am able to play all of my videos on my computer on my TV. It has worked great so far.
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by hutbay December 7, 2008 11:41 AM PST
How do you go to full screen on HULU, been playing around for about 10 minutes and can't get to fullscreen other than zooming.
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by checkingout December 8, 2008 6:16 AM PST
Try "MediaMall Playon" this works GREAT for Hulu and Netflix, the have a 2 week trial so you can check it out. Before I used PlayOn, I used to just Zoom Hulu and try to center it the best I could. I'm sure others have a better way of doing this.
by BlitzBoy1120 December 7, 2008 4:45 PM PST
PS3 ftw

Still better than the 360 IMO.
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