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March 6, 2009 10:37 PM PST

Pluto is a planet again! (in Illinois)

by Chris Matyszczyk
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Some people who spend their nights staring up at the stars still have black bands around their telescopes.

This is to commemorate the heinous day in 2006 when the International Astronomical Union demoted Pluto to dwarf planet status.

Now, the bountifully deep and forward-thinking state of Illinois is showing its Illinoyance. It has decided that the IAU is comprised of downright plonkers and that Pluto will, on March 13, 2009, be reinstated as a full, mature rockstar planet.

In fact, March 13 will be Pluto Day in Illinois.

It appears that Clyde Tombaugh, the fine citizen who discovered Pluto, was born on a farm in Illinois--and that only 4 percent of the IAU actually cast votes when the body excommunicated Pluto from the planetary major leagues.

Cue the theme from 'Rocky.'

(Credit: CC Chris Meller)

However, many who have been Americans for a long period of time know that Illinois residents can find self-control a little daunting. And I am not merely referring to the mortifying impulsiveness of one-time Chicago Cubs fan and now probably Missouri mortician, Steve Bartman.

You see, these words appear in the state's plutonic proclamation:

"WHEREAS, Dr. Tombaugh is so far the only Illinoisan and only American to ever discover a planet..."

Well, perhaps former Gov. Rod Blagojevich penned that minor but irrelevant inaccuracy. The main thing is that Illinois is yet again standing up for what is good and right and forward-thinking.

I trust that everyone who cares about truth, justice, and plutonic relations will make a pilgrimage on March 13 to some part of Illinois. (May I recommend one restaurant in Champaign? Yes, just one: Bacaro. And a couple in Chicago: Spiaggia and L2O).

I will call Oprah now and check that she will devoting a whole show to this wondrous occurrence.

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by laurele861 March 6, 2009 11:50 PM PST
The Illinois legislature has way more sense than the International Astronomical Union has shown in two-and-a-half years. It?s the IAU who have acted like idiots, with one tiny group forcing a nonsensical planet definition on everyone. The truth is there is NO scientific consensus that Pluto is not a planet. The criterion requiring that a planet ?clear the neighborhood of its orbit? is not only controversial; it?s so vague as to be meaningless. Only four percent of the IAU even voted on this, and the vote was driven by internal politics. A small group, most of whom are not planetary scientists, wanted to arbitrarily limit the number of planets to only the largest bodies in the solar system. They held their vote on the last day of a two-week conference with no absentee voting allowed. Their decision was immediately opposed by hundreds of professional astronomers in a formal petition led by Dr. Alan Stern, Principal Investigator of NASA?s New Horizons mission to Pluto.

Stern and like-minded scientists favor a broader definition of planet that includes any non-self-luminous spheroidal body orbiting a star. The spherical part is key because when objects become large enough, they are shaped by gravity, which pulls them into a round shape, rather than by chemical bonds. This is true of planets and not of shapeless asteroids and comets. And yes, it does make Ceres, Eris, Haumea, and Makemake planets as well, for a total of 13 planets in our solar system.

Even now, many astronomers and lay people are working to overturn the IAU demotion or are ignoring it altogether. Kudos to the Illinois Senate for standing up to this closed, out of touch organization whose leadership thinks they can just issue a decree and change reality.
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by ZetaZeta_ March 7, 2009 6:50 AM PST
Who gives a damn what we call these bodies? It's not like anyone outside of the earth-located human consciousness cares.
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by DanteDAnthony March 7, 2009 8:38 AM PST
Rock on PLUTO!


http://talesfromthepandoranage.blogspot.com/
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by JulianDave March 7, 2009 9:03 AM PST
Leave science to the scientists Illinois.
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by Seaspray0 March 7, 2009 8:57 PM PST
What? With all those fine politicians they've got?
by BCCM March 8, 2009 8:22 PM PDT
Yes by all means leave science to the scientists.

http://www.bccmeteorites.com/misconduct-planetary.html
by Angmarr March 7, 2009 1:51 PM PST
Are they gonna put the Sun (or for that matter) Earth back @ the center of the Universe next??? LOL
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by WeeWilly22 March 7, 2009 2:19 PM PST
The hard working fine citizen who discovered Pluto, Clyde Tombaugh did not have the context or perspective of the solar system we understand today. Pluto we know has a "warm" nitrogen, methane and probably carbon monoxide atmosphere.

Dr. Alan Stern, Principal Investigator of NASA's New Horizons mission to Pluto as project administrator has a political ax to grind. He is doing so.

The spherical part is NOT key because when objects become large enough, "they are shaped by gravity, which pulls them into a round shape", The KEY is PLUTO reasonably belongs to a new class of solar system bodies many dozens of which have already been discovered.
Believers to the contrary should consider joining the FLAT EARTH SOCIETY.

As for the Illinois legislature and "Crook" county politics...locations where politics appears to be a blood sport. Legislators should concern themselves with honesty and election reform in a region where political corruption appears to be noticably above average.

Take care to MIND serious business. This is just a mindless distraction for readers of tabloids and users of "infotainment" where foolery is routine.
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by laurele861 March 7, 2009 3:09 PM PST
Wrong, wrong, wrong, WeeWilly22. Dr. Stern is one of the premier scholars on Pluto in the world. On what do you base your personal attack that he "has an axe to grind?" What about the hundreds of other planetary scientists, including Eris's co-discoverer, Dr. David Rabinowitz, who also signed the petition rejecting the IAU demotion?

You ignore the fact that Pluto is unlike most of those new solar system bodies discovered because of its being in hydrostatic equilibrium. Hydrostatic equilibrium is key because smaller objects like most of those other KBOs, are shaped by chemical bonds and not by their own gravity. In classifiying objects, we cannot look solely at where they are--which is what the IAU did. We also have to consider what they are. Otherwise, we end up with the absurdity of a possible situation where the same object is a planet in one area and not a planet in another. If Earth were in Pluto's orbit, according to the IAU definition, it would not be considered a planet either.

This is not at all like the "flat Earth" issue. It's not the facts about Pluto that are in contention; it is the interpretation of the facts. And among scientists, there is more than one intepretation as of now.

Pluto is both a Kuiper Belt Object and a planet--as are Haumea, Makemake, and Eris. Why is this so difficult for people to understand? If they IAU simply amended its decision and made dwarf planets a subclass of planets, which they should have done to begin with, this situation would be resolved. Dwarf planets would simply be a subcategory describing small round objects (planets) that do not gravitationally dominate their orbits.
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by forkboy March 7, 2009 4:06 PM PST
I too thought the entire affair a complete sham, but it should have been the other 96% of IAU who demanded a new and real vote, with all members participating. At least then, if Pluto was held to be a dwarf planet, then we could say it was done with majority blessing.

What I would really like to see is the IAU offer a standard definition for objects called moons. If they think that Pluto is no longer a planet I cannot see, for the life of me, how oblong shaped items that more resemble asteroids can be called moons. Moons too should exhibit a set of characteristics that define them other than simply being captured by their planet.
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by Dylan_Wisor March 7, 2009 9:41 PM PST
Illinois just doesn't want to pay to have new textbooks made.
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by c|net Reader March 9, 2009 6:11 AM PDT
Perhaps that's the reason, but I'd applaud such fiscal responsibility if it were.
by knowles2 March 9, 2009 7:36 AM PDT
Well they going to have to anyway because if they going to keep Pluto as a planet then several other bodies got to be upgraded to planetary status. They are just the ones we know about at the minute their are expected to be dozens of Pluto type objects in the solar set to be discover over next few decades

Plus think of the poor kids who will have to learn the names of potentially hundreds of planets or on the bright side quiz masters will have lots of fun, what 96th planet in the solar systems. Now people will not look like total idiots when they do not know it or get it wrong.

What we really need is a sensible definition of a planet that everyone can agree to. I happen to agree for at least the new one is the best. Illinois is just doing it because well this state have not got a lot other things it to promote it as it.
by artistjoh March 8, 2009 3:56 AM PDT
While I personally endorse the recommended definition of a planet that the IAU cast aside in favor of the 8 planet theory, at least both sides of the coin had sound scientific reasoning behind their definitions.

This political posturing merely has emotion on its side and not only that but to not know that various Americans (and possibly more Illinoisans) have discovered many of the hundreds of planets now known demonstrates an ignorance of substantial facts in the matter and makes the whole political episode look like a joke.

Clyde Tombaugh would be appalled.
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by laurele861 March 8, 2009 1:41 PM PDT
No, he would not. To the very end of his life, Tombaugh fought for Pluto's planetary status and yes, he was aware of the discovery of the Kuiper Belt. He would acknowledge the discovery of many exoplanets and likely could have helped better word this resolution to reflect that, but he never wavered in his conviction that Pluto is a planet.
by Courtnie55 March 8, 2009 4:58 PM PDT
i totally agree i mean think of all the adults and tennagers nowadays that learned and memorized the planets including Pluto with the "my very eduacated mother just served us nine pizzas" phrase. now its just my very educated mother just served us nine..... Nine what? I do live in illinois, but i did not know that the man that discovered pluto lived here also
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by BCCM March 8, 2009 8:29 PM PDT
It has all of the makings of a planetary body and should not have been removed to begin with.

http://www.bccmeteorites.com/misconduct-planetary.html
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by supernatendo March 8, 2009 10:16 PM PDT
Why is this such a big deal? Why do we need politicians telling scientists how to classify objects. Leave it up to the scientists for goodness sake. If we changed definitions of things just because they hold some sort of weird "sentimental" value, then we might as well make the catholic church feel better and say that pure light is white and that it becomes less pure when it is in different colors.
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by truckerfromhell March 9, 2009 6:08 AM PDT
Pluto is a planet?! I thought he was a dog.
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by real_bgiel March 9, 2009 7:06 AM PDT
Has anybody checked with Al Gore on this?
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by hassan_bin_sober March 9, 2009 7:33 AM PDT
Illinois state senate to rename Pluto, Planet BLAGO.
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by hassan_bin_sober March 9, 2009 7:35 AM PDT
Blago will be on the Slow Boat To Pluto to become it's Governor, in about 30 years.
by Dr_Zinj March 9, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
If it's big enough for gravity to pull into a sphere, and too small to, or has never, generate fusion, then it is a planet. Any KBO that grows large enough to sphericalize itself therefor becomes a planet, and is no longer a KBO.

Ergo, the Earth and the Moon are both planets; with Earth the major partner and the Moon being a moon. The spherical moons of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune are all planets, and moons of their primaries. Phobos and Deimos, while being moons of Mars, are not large enough to pull themselves into spheres, and therefore not planets.

Regardless of all the high falutin' degrees possessed by the members of the International Astronomical Union who actually voted on it, their utter lack of consistent, consensual logic in describing what is and is not a planet only goes to show that they really aren't any smarter than the average man on the street; although at least they are a step above the Flat Earth Society.
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by TimeTraveler2000 March 9, 2009 8:56 AM PDT
Rather than mess with the definition of what a planet is, I would suggest placing a limit on how far out we concern ourselves with names. Beyond the closest planets in this solar system, the others are not of real concern or interest to much of the general public, I would guess, unless there was some unique phenomena or resource there to attract more attention.
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by chash360 March 9, 2009 1:03 PM PDT
In reference to Dr_Zinj,

For my 2 cents, I think the definition for a planet should be, round by its own gravity, primarily orbiting around a star (or stars, either past or collapsed to brown darf, etc.), and perhaps some consideration to geologic or atmospheric processes having occurred at some point. Lets get rid of the minor planet term (since so many are 'offended' by it), and consider that a body round by its own gravity, primarily orbiting a planet (by the above definition) is a satelite or moon. And anything that does not saticfy those definitions can be either a planetoid (multiple composited objects) or asteroid (primarily uniform composition solid objects), or simply debris.

In all this arguing over definitions, I have not seen reference to the orbit as a major part of the classification, which I think only makes sense. I would not consider our moon to be a planet, simply because of its orbit. If the Earth were orbiting Jupiter, I would say we lived on a moon. If Jupiter were to begin fusion and become a star, and the moons orbiting it survived, they would and should graduate to planet status.

Planets orbit stars, satelites or moons orbit planets, which agrees with common sense and makes for a simple definition. Round by its own gravity is a reasonable ground for qualification of either classification. I don't think we could have a mass large enough (regardless of composition), to hold a moon (that is round), that was itself, not round.

In the case of future strange discoveries....
If we have a moon orbiting another moon which orbits a planet, lets call it a secondary (or tertiary, etc) or subordinate moon or satelite.

If we discover something with too complex an orbit, to fit the definition, then if any portion of the orbit is primarily dictated by a star and it saticfies the other requirements, its a planet, otherwise a rouge planet for something without a regular orbit that is large enough to hold a satelite (that is round by its own gravity), or rouge moon if it is not large enough to hold a satelite (that is round by its own gravity), regardless of orbit. In any case I would say the orbit is the defining nature between a planet and a moon, and round by its own gravity the defining nature for either classification.

Round by its own Gravity=Planet or Moon (otherwise Planetoid or Asteroid)
None or strange Orbit=Rouge
Orbit Star=Planet
Orbit Planet or Moon=Moon (or satellite)
Massive enough to hold a Moon in orbit=Planet if Rouge



This covers most of the bases, and a change in classification would only be able to occur if the object's orbit changed or coloesced into a sphere. Which is when such a change in classicfication should be considered. This would leave Pluto as a planet, and yes, allow some of the Kuiper belt objects to become planets as well (whats wrong with new planets?) Unless there is some compelling reason to create a ratio/distance from the star (taking into account the star's mass), I don't see why Kuiper belts objects should be excluded from being planets provided they saticfy the above definitions.
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by Bluzulu March 12, 2009 4:40 AM PDT
Why don't we concern ourselves with THIS planet first before we go arguing back and forth regarding the status of Pluto as a planet. It's not like anyone is ever going to live there anytime soon! And Illinois should be concerning themselves with reforming their own corrupt government, and stop trying to sweep things under the carpet by focusing on such IDIOTIC, TRIVIAL things like is Pluto a planet or not. WHO CARES!!! It just pi$$e$ me off at how stupid and lame people and politics really are! UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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