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December 11, 2008 8:36 AM PST

PlayStation 'Home' open beta launches

by John P. Falcone
Sony PlayStation Home screenshot(Credit: SCEA)

If all goes according to plan, PlayStation Home will be opening its doors to the public later Thursday. The PlayStation 3-exclusive allows gamers to interact with one another using avatars in a virtual environment via text or voice chat (think Second Life, but on the PS3). The free service is still in beta, but should be available to PS3 users worldwide by the end of the day.

Nintendo's Wii launched with support for player avatars that can be used in many of its games, and the Xbox 360 added avatar and enhanced community features with its November 2008 New Xbox Experience makeover. But PlayStation Home looks to be the most sophisticated virtual world to date available on a game console, with realistic graphical renderings of people and environments. The Home world features minigames, in-world music options, trophy rooms, and--of course--advertiser-supported destinations and stores.

What do you think: Is Home a game changer for the PS3? Or is it yet another environment to sell you "virtual junk" you don't need? Share your comments below.

(Via: Official PlayStation Blog)

Earlier coverage:
PS3 'Home' a second life away from home
Sony delays launch of PlayStation 'Home' service

John P. Falcone covers home theater and network entertainment products. He's been writing for CNET since 2002.
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by verbalvoodoo December 11, 2008 9:32 AM PST
I have a Wii and one of the big problems is that there is very little interactive online content. If I want to buy an old SNES game, sure, no problem, but if I want to play a card game? Nope. If I want to play a game of pool with someone in Japan? Nope. What about playing a board game like chess or Trivial Pursuit? Nope.

So if Sony can get to THAT point then it is absolutely a game changer.

I would specifically buy a PS3 if the Home-thingy would let me play card games with other online players, and shoot pool, or play a game of Monopoly, etc.

BUT if the entire online exeprience consists entirely of buying clothes from my avatar and randoming texting other people online --- then it would be boring and pointless.
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by AugustRain December 11, 2008 9:41 AM PST
Totally agree, as of now the playstation network is down, hopefully this new home rollout wont be a disaster.
by Kev50027 December 11, 2008 9:42 AM PST
You already can play pool and chess with others in Home (at least in the closed beta, and they added even more features in the open beta). So you might want to wait for some reviews, but so far, it's a very cool thing to play around with when not blasting people apart in Resistance 2 or taking your turf back in Saints Row 2.
by Infospy December 11, 2008 9:58 AM PST
You must not have heard of an xbox 360 which can already do all the things you describe. I play Uno online with other follks all the time. plus there are hundreds of more games already out. much more than the wii and ps3.

If you want a virtual world stick to the pc where that weird reality is meant to be.
by brettak81 December 11, 2008 10:22 AM PST
but he doesn't want an xbox 360. he wants a quality game console. aka ps3.
by lawgone December 11, 2008 12:49 PM PST
Yeah, see the Xbox 360 if you want to play people online in simple but nicely rendered games like Uno, pool, backgammon, etc. Don't listen to the PS3 fanboy above me. PS3 is good for some things...I've got one...but for what you are describing, an Xbox would be perfect. Oh, and by the way, mine is a launch unit and I've yet to have any problems with it...I have with my PS3 though.
by Nway2000 December 11, 2008 1:20 PM PST
get over it fanboys BOTH the ps3 and xbox 360 are great systems.
why i bought a ps3:
blu-ray player (cheapest at the time i bought it)
free online gaming (its great even thou xbox 360 fanboys say its not nearly as good xbox live, i love psn there are many people online to play with, and communication is great)
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even though the xbox 360 has more exclusives than the ps3, the ps3 does have its own great exclusives
by aragorns9 December 12, 2008 11:20 AM PST
ur a noob
by Aftermath_11 December 12, 2008 2:07 PM PST
Well verbalvoodoo the PS3 Home open beta offers Pool,bowling, a Theater to check out upcoming games, movie trailers and so on. Right now the open beta is overwhelmed with people and most people were getting connection issues at first (due to the amount of people logged in), i believe once the hype goes down it will be easier to log in to Home.
by Kev50027 December 11, 2008 9:43 AM PST
I've been in the closed beta for a while now, and I really think it's a game changer. The closed beta didn't give you much to do, but there is a lot of promise in this system, and I really think that it will bloom into a great community. That said, the problems with immature people will continue.
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by alexxxx1234 December 11, 2008 9:48 AM PST
GET YOUR STORY Stright it was delay due to tecencal beta problems


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by December 11, 2008 10:16 AM PST
Learn to spell before you flame, lest you appear to be the subject of your own flame.
by marcaz111 December 11, 2008 9:51 AM PST
A game system needs one thing. Great games. To thrive independent of game quality a system can offer other features to tie people over until another great game is released. When the xbox 360 added Netflix it truly offered something else to do that is not just a fad.
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by The_Eskimo December 11, 2008 10:06 AM PST
Yet another reason I'm glad I bought a P3. Might have to wait a little longer with Playstation, but ultimately, like the Blue Ray vs HDDVD, Sony will always offer the better product. And those of you who think Netflix (or something similar, probably BETTER) won't be available on P3 by this summer...we'll see...
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by laoke December 11, 2008 10:26 AM PST
It's already on there...just get PlayOn (trial is free, purchase for $30) and you can watch Netflix all you want on your PS3. Note that content is not in HD for online viewing, so personally, I think the whole Netflix online thing is limited anyway. Once Sony got the BlueRay market, I don't really see much reason to buy an XBox. I will agree that the format you have to use with the PS3 is dumb, once you find out what format works, you can just convert everything onto that format and away you go. But I would strongly encourage those who have a PS3 to check out PlayOn and TVersity. Those two free software packages work awesome for streaming media over a network (pics/video/music) onto your PS3. Just make sure you find a format that works with the PS3 and stick with it.
by JoeMerchant999 December 11, 2008 10:41 AM PST
I think Sony is totally missing it by blocking out Netflix and trying to push their own services. I have one PS3 and 2 PCs and a laptop in my house, the PS3 loses its connection to the bigscreen TV and stereo everytime I hook the notebook up to watch a movie - if the PS3 doesn't compete with compelling content accessibility (beyond games), it's going to lose that connection permanently.
by risenaboveashes December 12, 2008 10:24 AM PST
Yeah! I completely agree...i mean Sony's mini disk players/format did so well...no wait they lost to CD's..how about Sony's UMD instead of DVD's no wait they aren't making those anymore! So obviously sony won't offer the better products always!

Sony has made some good, and like everyone else some that we prefer to not remember. So before you start screaming your fanboy-ism out you might like to look at the facts before you make yourself look dumb.

I have no problem with the PS3 i think its an amazing system, but i do have problems with fanboys who think they know it all and that their machine outways the other. No! they all have their benefits and downfalls.
by lil-yankee December 11, 2008 10:10 AM PST
I think home is going to deliver on its promise, it all depends how you magnify your glasses on it.
I've been in the closed beta for about five month, got the invite through a friend that did not want it (from the magazine) and its a great experience so far. There are plenty of mini games for most people to be please and word is that in the open beta there would be even more. Of course you tend to run into immature people (for the lack of a better word) that do **** you off, but then, where don't you?
I have not seen a place that's a 100 percent safe (not even my house) so home would not be immune to jerks either. Although there are ways to block them and once you are in your apartment only people whom you invite can get it, you should be safer. But the real meaning of home of course is for us to find people and play minigames before we launch an actual game, create parties and stuff and for sony is to profit from micro-transactions that showoff are going to make to "upgrade" their avatars and think they are pimping since they cant do it in the real world. Like i said, this should be fun, and is , for the most part, free. I have met people there, not that i intend to actually meet them in person, but we go out to the clubs and play some minigames while i wait for my real friends to get out of class and we start playing call of duty, thats the way i see it, also we get to go and see the previews of movies to come and soon, actual videos uploaded to the psn to view for free. The thing is in beta and I have spotted little glitches sometimes that for the most part have been fix periodically and that should explain why this thing took so long. Im not unable to sign in to my psn account which I think means that sony finally put the Japanese to work and are going to roll out the open beta. Im exited to see whats new and how manny more people are going to be online. Anywyas if you guys have a ps3 look at it this way.
Is Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, just try it and if you dont like it, dont use it.........
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by lil-yankee December 11, 2008 11:28 AM PST
ohhh and just so you know. Sony is backed by most of the studios, they probably kick some service for video rental or movie downloads and stuff......
by December 11, 2008 10:15 AM PST
Gotta love the flames. No content with no content behind it...
Anyway, I have a Wii and a 360, but am not beyond buying a PS3 if the interface looks good and there are enough games for me to justify it. It'll be interesting to see how Home plays out.
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by FargoUT December 11, 2008 10:23 AM PST
Getting NetFlix onto the PS3 will take some work, since NetFlix and XBox 360 are essentially joined at the hip (I believe the CEO of NetFlix sits on the board of Microsoft or at least their XBox venture). Not so sure the PlayStation will be getting NetFlix, but like The_Eskimo said, they'll figure something out.

However, I think XBox Live's biggest drawback is the cost -- while $50/year is not expensive (that's really quite cheap all things considered), PS3 offers similar for free. The question will be how the network holds up. I give props to Sony for using non-proprietary interfaces (most notably Bluetooth), and for taking a huge risk in new technologies. If I had the money, I would buy a PS3 to replace my dying Xbox 360 (red rings of death).

The one thing keeping me on the XBox is the community of friends I have on XBox Live. It is still fun to log on and play with people I've been playing with for a couple years now.
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by laoke December 11, 2008 10:33 AM PST
FargoUT, check out PlayOn and TVersity. PlayOn just got out a version about a month ago that allows you to watch Netflix online via your PS3. Here's a link >>> http://www.themediamall.com/playon
by Dragon_Myr December 11, 2008 10:28 AM PST
I don't see the appeal. I wish Sony would have taken all the time and resources invested in Home and instead spent it on developing some new IP or delivering polished quality games. I don't want a second life or a second Home. I like my real life and real home. Stumbling around a city chatting with other avatars and waiting in line to try stuff out doesn't sound like fun to me. Getting charged for appearance and virtual objects sounds like pure and simple fast-cash greed particularly when getting bombarded by advertising. Home is not even remotely a selling point for the PS3 in my mind. I'm not going to rush out and buy a PS3 because it has Home or has ____ feature. I'm going to buy one because there are games I want to play. Right now there aren't enough games I want to play or enough perceived value in those games to offset the high ticket price of the PS3.

I think Sony has taken a huge gable with Home and I don't think it's going to pay off. A lot of people will jump in and try it for the next month or two and then the active user-base will quickly diminish to a small fraction of overall PS3 owners. We've seen the same thing happen with Second Life. Only a fraction of registered people tend to use these sort of virtual word programs and do anything with them. There's a reason why Google shut down Lively and why so many MMO's fail. I have a feeling Home is going to get added to that failure list by 2010. I just don't see anything great coming from it except pretty screenshots.

Sony desperately needs to put the focus of the PS3 back on quality games rather than Home or Blu-ray.
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by lawgone December 11, 2008 12:55 PM PST
I would like them to address the following:
1. Controllers disconnecting. It happens every now and then to both my sixaxis and dual shock and is a real pain.
2. XMB just blows in my opinion. Tiny little text (yes, you can adjust the font but it doesn't look good) is hard to read. The UI needs an upgrade rather than Home.
3. More and better games.
by JoeD1979 December 11, 2008 10:39 AM PST
I already believe the PS3 is a much stronger and better machine then the Xbox 360. Having said that, it has a bunch of great things going for it, but games. I don't have the PS3 because I want to play lot of different games. Fable 2, Gears of War, Halo, the next Splinter Cell are ALL Xbox exclusives. PS3 has Metal Gear and Resitance. They lost Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto, and Splinter Cell to cross platform or altogether. I just enjoy the games on Xbox more. Do I think the PS3 is a better machine, yes, do I want to play games on it? Not really.

Home does look fun and inventive, but do I want to spend $400 on a copy of Second Life? I can get a blu-ray now for half that price, so I don't need to buy it for that. So not games, stand alone blu-ray is cheap, so why do I want a PS3?
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by ShaneOMac17 December 11, 2008 10:42 AM PST
I didn't playstation home and its making me mad because everybody else is getting it except for me....and because of that im startin to lose my respect for sony for their inability to include everyone in on the program.
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by kylebuttermore December 11, 2008 10:45 AM PST
i wish this came out before i sold my ps3.
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by CubicC December 11, 2008 11:50 AM PST
Reading a lot of these ps3 hate posts make me laugh. It's such a huge amount of "roflol" to see people that support only 360, and have the audacity boast about their oh so huge game library! Why don't you actually name some hard hitting titles that make us go out and buy a 360 besides GoW and Halo 2.5? Don't even mention Fable 1.5. It's Fable with a dog, and an in game currency worth nothing. Buy exp with money?? WOOOOW!

Honestly, I work at a game store... and I see things first hand. I am a college student that is a striving student by day, and an avid gamer by night. I've seen and heard it all. I was there camping outside of gamestop for my 360 on launch night, and I was one of the same people to be disappointed by 3 red rings that SAME night. I was the employee taking back 360's over, and over and over again. I can't tell you how many times I hit the counter at my store when I saw a half ripped open 360 box come through the door because it "broke for no reason". Get out of here with your superiority tactics. If you want a video game console retrospective, I'll give it to you. You won't like what the 360 has done to its community over the last few years AT ALL!

Name some games like GoW, and I'll name one like Resistance. Name a game like Halo that swept the nation, and I'll give you Little Big Planet. Give me a game like Call of Duty, and I'll show you my ps3 copy. Then I'll also walk into my closet, and pull out my now dead HD DVD player. You remember that? That piece of junk that offered cheaper HD movies, and a pretty red sleeve? Now granted I was smart, and it wasn't actually me that went HD-DVD. I went with blu-ray, and my good friend went with HD-DVD. It was quite the day when BR finally won.

Online networks are rather the same, if you exclude the total rip off of what we used to call "Mii's". Sure ps3 looks like second life and all, but it also brings more to the table. Xbox 360 gave you a few clothes, and the ability to make xbox live parties. Don't you realize that's all you have? Sorry, but I tried the netflix thing on xbox live, and I hate paying $50 to watch my netflix account on my 360, when I can just watch it on my pc plugged into my tv via HDMI lol. Seriously xbots, get over yourselves.

You may wonder why I'm so offensive about 360. Well, it's because I have to turn zombies into thinkers every day at work when they tell me ps3 is expensive. The same people that walk out of the door with a 360, play and charge kit, xbox live for a year, network adapter and a wireless headset haha! You just spent 500, sorry buddy...

As for home, it'll grow and grow overtime into something decent. It's not the end all gaming network, but it'll get some play time. Just stop talking about the 360's game library, and it's reliability as if it has any. Majority games are cross platform, and 360 is also losing their exclusives. It's how the industry works. Money, Money, Money makes the world go 'round.
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by Ultimo01 December 11, 2008 1:05 PM PST
Wow you do not realise that Sony is losing its own exclusives like Metal Gear Solid, next thing Rachet & Clank will come over, and any other exclusive might as well come over. And don't start on the video quality part because they are practically the same if you haven't noticed on the Gamespot graphics comparison pictures/stories.

Now I am not saying that Xbox is the best in the future but for right now it is for what it offers. Yes the Live Subscription is dumb, red rings of death are horrid, and Microsoft lost in the format war, but there plenty of neutral reading that you should follow up on. Like CNET's own Blu-Ray article by Don Reisinger with the next-gen consoles.

Plus Microsoft has only about 7 years of experience with consoles, Sony has about 12, but Microsoft started well on the online component before Sony or Nintendo. You need to give credit to where credit is due and Microsoft currently has the best online base than either Nintendo or Sony. I do give credit to Sony for the format war and pre-gen game hits, but what good is all that when we are going to be moving to the next-gen in a few years. Microsoft will probably go the way of digital distribution while Sony will keep to physical limitations.
by JoeD1979 December 11, 2008 5:03 PM PST
Wait a minute, did you seriously compare Halo to Little Big Planet? Wow. And you work at a game store? Do I need to show side by side sales comparisons and attachment rates, or do you just not take either of those into account? I completetly agree with you that you get more for you money with a PS3, but don't try to compare Halo and Little Big Planet. It just completely ruins the validity of your post. Also, about Fable 2, it has already won 1 game of the year award and has gotten great reviews. So yes, I am going to consider that an incredible exclusive for the 360. Again, I do think the PS3 is the better machine, but if you want to play games and that is all you care about, the 360 is the clear better option as of right now.
by Rambo67 December 11, 2008 8:03 PM PST
HAH Ultimo01, your great. Yea, i REALLY believe Metal Gear Solid will go over to x360, >.> and when it does, it will be on 3 discs because it takes up so much room. It was originally going to be both platforms, but it could not happen because of the space restrictions on dvds. This isnt the first game to do this, nor will it be the last. X360 is not a bad console, but its technology is not on the same level as PS3.
by sambo777 December 12, 2008 2:23 PM PST
You accomplished your mission as i feel that i lost several IQ points reading all your SONYBOT drivel... it is hard to respond to a BIG man that works at a game store. If you knew anything you would know that Microsoft repairs 3 red ring machines. We are all aware that they rushed the machines to market, but as long as they fix them it is no big deal. They have the games that Sony doesnt and a price point that makes them desirable to the public. Sony is having their a$$es handed to them by Nintendo and XBOX 360. No one pays $500 for an XBOX 360, nor do they buy it for playing movies. Its all about the games bud and it has them in spades compared to your overpriced box. btw, what are you doing on this forum anyway since you now have HOME... hahahahahaha, what a joke...
by Balloonknot December 11, 2008 11:57 AM PST
I sold my PS3 after a few months...all of the best games out there are either on 360 or available for both...Home is a nice diversion but most of my time is spent playing games. I rarely popped a disc in my PS3. It's a shame really since the PS3 is a superior peice of hardware...I really was impressed with the quality of the system, although it has a price to match. If I still had it I would certainly give Home a chance, especially because it's free. But I wouldn't waste money on the avatar or new furniture for my home etc...

Xbox Live is $50/year but how much will you Home-ies spend on addtional content??
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by spearman792 December 11, 2008 12:16 PM PST
Let the fanboy wars commence!
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by HMetal68 December 11, 2008 12:36 PM PST
I have all of the current consoles (Xbox 360, Wii and PS3) and all I can think of with this new "Home" feature is here's yet another endless update from Sony. It seems every time I turn on my PS3 it needs 30 minutes to an hour to download and install an update. That is if the update doesn't fail mid way. And usually the updates don't really seem to do anything. On the Xbox, updates usually take only a few seconds although the major update last month did take me about 2 minutes. I've had the hardware issues with the 360 (5 times so far) and still recommend the 360 over the PS3. The thing is, do you want to play a game or watch an update screen. I'd rather play, and not with a virtual doll house. Home? Who cares!
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by lawgone December 11, 2008 1:02 PM PST
You're only the 2nd person I've seen mention the updates on the PS3...besides me :) They are quite annoying and take forever. Sorry to hear you've had issues on your 360. Mine's been fine and it's a launch unit. (Knock on wood!)
by zunyo1 December 12, 2008 12:52 PM PST
Ugh, stupid 30 minute PS3 updates. And then when u leave to take a shower, use the bathroom, take out the trash, etc. etc. and u come back and the update failed............Auuuuuuuuuuuuuugh!!!
by mmorgan217 December 11, 2008 1:00 PM PST
I own all 3 systems unlike many who comment here so I will give you an unbiased review of all 3 for those who care to read all the comments. The system that diverts most of my time for the past year and a half to two years that I have owned all 3 systems is the Xbox 360. This is largely due to the fact that most of my friends who live in the state I moved from own the system and we play a majority of the cross-platform games on that system. With that said, anyone who believes the 360 to be superior to the PS3 in value are mistaken. I had to buy a wireless network adapter for my 360 costing me ($100 plus tax) to make it somewhat closer in value. I had to buy an elite 360 ($499 at the time) to get 1080p visuals on my 360. Microsoft's business model is somewhat reactionary to the market here recently (Ipod = Zune, Tiger/Leopard = Vista, PS2/Gamecube = Xbox) and as such just recently jumped the gun on the 360 in order to increase fan base, which has been the only thing to save them at this point. As such, they put out another system that will not go the distance just like the original Xbox. The original Xbox lasted 4 years before discontinuation and the 360 may last 2 extra years before draining your wallet again due to lack of preparation. The PS2 started slowly, it was only a power house after 3-5 years of being out on the market when developers perfected the engine and started making dominant powerhouse games to beat out the competition which included Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo Gamecube, and the Xbox. The PS2 is a 10 year system (best-selling system at 140 million sold as of mid-'08) and is still very strong today in a lot of markets. Therefore, with the addition of the PS3 and this most recent update with Home, you will see a lasting impression much like we have come to expect from Sony. Their products have been ahead of the game since the original PS and will continue to blow minds and dominate for years to come. For those of you smart enough to have invested time and money into a PS3, you have chosen wisely in my opinion. Although I end up spending more time on the 360, it is not out of my own choice, but more out of desire to stay in touch with old friends. I may not renew my subscription to the over-priced Xbox Live account I currently have because quite frankly if I don't have to pay for it on PS3 then I won't. I truly believe without bias that the PS3 gives you a much better option for the future of gaming for those of us who consider ourselves true gamers (30+ hours a week). The 360/PS3 have both lost out on account of the cross-platforming that is going on without the ability to play gamers on all 3/4 platforms/systems (Wii, PS3, 360, and PC) at the same time simultaneously. The only reason at this point why PS3 sales are lower than the 360 is because they can come out with a 360 for $199 that in no way will ever be able to do anything that you want it to right out of the box. You have to spend another $200 plus dollars afterward to make it a decent system worth playing, not including the subscription fees required in order to play with friends. If Xbox live were free, this would be a very different comment, but it won't ever be, and my stock is in Sony to continue to make decisions that enrich a gamer's life. The fact that I had to spend what I did to make my 360 into something semi-comparable to a PS3 is appalling. I have been on the Home beta for a month or two now and it makes you wish that Microsoft spent money on you like Sony is willing to in order to make your experience with them that much better. Not to mention that the entire experience is FREE! Good luck to all us 360 owners who have to throw away our system in a year or two after they decide to discontinue it and not make it backwards compatible like they did with the 360. Thanks Sony for not wasting my money, for continuing to put out a quality product, and caring enough about your customers to not make us pay for something we shouldn't have to.
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by k-zon December 11, 2008 2:13 PM PST
Yea, Id kinda have to agree. Im not in gaming as much as i have been but if i could get the funds saved somewhere id buy a PS3 just to be able to play PS games i still have and havent really been remade.
by Ismod December 13, 2008 8:41 AM PST
I agree with you. I was a huge Halo addict in college, and that was when the only way to play against others was on college networks. (look how far we have come) When I was deciding on which system to buy my friends thought I was crazy to spend $500 on a PS3 when they all had 360 and it was soooooooo much "cheaper". PS3 has wireless controllers, 360 you pay extra for them. PS3 has wireless internet, 360 you pay extra for it. PS3 has the ability to control movies with the regular controller, 360 makes you buy a controller. PS3 lets you play online for free, 360 charges you $50. PS3 comes with tons of memory, 360 makes you buy an external hard drive or memory cards. The biggest thing to me is PS3 comes with a high-def player (Blu Ray) and when 360 had HD DVD you had to spend almost $200 to get the external HD DVD player. These are all huge points to make to yourself if you are looking at a $500 PS3 and wondering if that is too much to spend. In the end it is not, because in order to catch up to the PS3 with your 360 you will spend much more on accessories.
by Balloonknot December 11, 2008 1:05 PM PST
I'm a fan of good games...always have been...don't care what system it's for. It just so happened that I was playing the 360 90% of the time. I sold my PS3...bought a Wii (not my first...made a pretty penny back at launch) and now it's more like 50-50...

The reason, I think, is that the Wii offers something that the 360 doesn't have...namely Nintendo properties and access to the old classics for alot of systems. I play alot of classic games. So the Wii has cut into my 360 time in a way that the PS3 never did. The PS3 didn't offer anything that different from the 360.

However, I do think that Home would be cool to check out and I would spend a fair amount of time there...initially...but I'd probably get bored with it and be back to my 50-50 Wii-360 split.

I give Sony full credit for trying to differentiate** itself from the 360; something it desperately needs to do if it's gonna gain ground. Unfortunately, I don't think Home will attract enough people to do that.

**(I don't put alot of value in the PS3's Bluray player anymore...discs are too expensive and other players are coming way down in price.)
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by Brent212 December 11, 2008 1:07 PM PST
I'm not a video game fan, so I can't comment on the "second life" thing or the games on xbox vs games on PS. But that netflix thing that they added to the xbox is awesome.
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by TheRealMegatronlives December 11, 2008 2:39 PM PST
XBOX is good for now but PS3 is the future. For those of you who don't know Pioneer just developed a 400GB BluRay disc that can play on current BluRay players.

check it out for yourself.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/pioneer-blu-ray-bluray-disc,6650.html

I own an XBOX and love playing it but just like one of the previous post I got it because all my friends already had one and I wanted to play online with them. If It wasn't for that I would never get an XBOX just for the fact that MS had the balls to drop such a defective product on the market. I got the (Red ring Of Death)ROD and so did every single one the my friends, it's not a matter of if but when. I love my XBOX but it's a piece of junk.

And what they said about the price is also true, in reality 360 is more expansive. Yes the PS3 is more expansive out the box but the XBOX is missing so many things and then they expect you to pay for their overpriced products to make up the difference. You know how pissed I was when I realized that after dropping about 500 on an Elite for the 1080p that it had no WI-FI and I would have to drop another 100 a add WI-FI. Tthat's a joke, I can get a WI-FI for my pc for 30.00. The WI-FI would put my purchase close to 600.00 and still on BluRay. And if you want a bigger HD you have to pay for their junk too, Amazon has a 120GB XBOX HD for 150.00 you can get a 1.5 TB HD for your PS3 for that same price. What a joke.

MS forced everyone to get an XBOX 360 by stopping all production for the original XBOX. The only way XBOX can compete with the PS3 in the next 5 years is by dropping a new XBOX. And if that happens say bye bye to and new 360 games.
by keysy420 December 11, 2008 2:23 PM PST
mmorgan i have to agree with you 100 percent i too own all three systems and i feel like the only reason i own a xbox is because my old friends do. every cross platform game that comes out i get for ps3 because it crisper smoother and looks better. ive had 13 xbox systems because they are a crap machine , rushed out by ms. and your right again the xbox had a four year run and the xbox may make 5 you can see it right now. they have a couple of titles that are worth playing but dropped the ball on sequels gears 2 is a totally step away from where they should have gone with that game every time i play i feel like been their done that. its still fun but not like itwas when gears 1 first came out. should i mention halo 3 who plays that but hard core fans or someone who is meeting up with buddies. The system seems to be dying and the playstation is comming alive. a new system has to be in the plans for microsoft becuase they are loosing out in every catagory. more exclusive ps3, blu ray vrs hd blu ray won. xbox avatar vrs home home . im really wondering what game is going to save the xbox gears 3 i'd rather play mag
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by HMetal68 December 11, 2008 3:15 PM PST
More exclusive PS3? You mean games like Final Fantasy? Nope, no longer exclusive. You must mean Grand Theft Auto. Wait, that isn't exclusive anymore either. Oh yeah, how about Ace Combat. Now that is exclusive. The only problem is it is no longer exclusive to PlayStation, it's exclusive on Xbox. Almost every title being released now is no longer exclusive. Ok, so PS3 got Little Big Planet and Metal Gear. So what. Xbox has a lot more than just Gears of War and Halo. And as for the games looking better? Check any game site you want that does side by side comparisons and you'll see that in most cases there is almost no difference. In many cases, the Xbox graphics are better than PS3.

I'll give you that the Xbox hardware is not reliable. I've had plenty of issues with that (5 failures in 3 years) but for game content I just can't agree with you. And for everyone that says they "had to buy" a wireless adapter, you would think on a tech site you would know how to use a network cable. Cheap, reliable and faster.

I have all 3 systems and of the 3, the PS3 is used the least. With the exception of LBP, it's mainly a George Foreman Blu-Ray player.
by Aftermath_11 December 12, 2008 3:06 PM PST
To HMetal68: Well Final Fantasy is no longer an exclusive for PS3, at least it wont be on 3 dvd disc (xbox). lol Xbox graphics better than PS3.... Thats a joke man. I have both Xbox 360 and PS3 which i have had my PS3 for the last 2 years and have never had a problem with it other than the odd freeze, but in the last 3 years I have had 4 Xboxs which keep in mind i had to wait 1 month to get an xbox 360 back which means a month without gaming, luckliy i had a ps3 to keep me entertained. lol and a Cheap network adapter id rather have everything built already in to my PS3. Dont get me wrong Xbox 360 has great games but personally in 2009 the PS3 will show people how powerfull the system actually is. ( Killzone 2, Infamous,Heavy Rain)all ps3 exclusives for 2009. Heavy Rain is said to be "By far and away,Heavy Rain has the best graphics we have ever seen in a video game. Even better than heavy-hitter Metal Gear Solid 4" Gamepro 2009 Game Guide Mag.
by HMetal68 December 13, 2008 6:48 AM PST
Here's a link to a comparison of graphics. This is actually the first article I've read like this that doesn't say the Xbox is better. This just points out that for the graphics, they are pretty much equal which I suppose you could say is a victory for Sony. In the previous year comparisons, Xbox was better so for them to now be equal, well that is an improvement. Who knows, maybe by next years comparison PS3 will be better but I'm not counting on it.
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6201700/index.html?tag=result;title;0

As for my other points, well I think CNN says it very well in this article.
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/siliconalley/personal-tech/2008_12_sonys_ps3_a_sinking_ship_sales_plummet_sne.html

And one thing I would like to add is that I do expect there to be some good (exclusive) games for the PS3, but it's been 2 years now, where the hell are they? Killzone 2 was shown even before the launch of the PS3 but isn't available yet. I didn't have to wait 2 years for good exclusives on the 360. Yes the 360 has hardware issues, which suck, but they also have a ton more games. And I don't care if a game comes on one disk or 30 as long as I don't have to swap it out constantly. Seriously, Metal Gear Solid on the PS2 was 2 disks, did you care? 2 disks or not that was one of the best games ever made.

As for 2009, I think by the end of the year you'll see that Xbox is still leading in sales just like the numbers announced a couple of days ago. For every good exclusive on the PS3, there will be 2 for the Xbox. I actually hope I'm wrong because I would love to have my PS3 be something more than just a weekly 30 minute update, but I said before, do you want to play or watch an update screen.
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