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April 23, 2008 7:53 AM PDT

Ma.gnolia as a del.icio.us alternative

by Gordon Haff
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[UPDATE: It took about three days, but the import of my del.icio.us links finally completed.]

Don't get me started on weird period-ized names.

As I've written about previously, social bookmarking hasn't advanced a whole lot. Frankly, I don't care a whole lot about the social aspect beyond maybe keeping an eye on the links of a few friends who I know turn up interesting stuff. However, I've found that keeping my bookmarks in the Cloud rather than in my browser works well for me. Doing a daily link post with some short commentary also fits my style and workflow better than doing a lot of short posts does.

My latest experiment is with Ma.gnolia.com. It's pretty, but probably its biggest advantage in my book is that it doesn't truncate the description (i.e. the comment or excerpt that I enter) like del.icio.us does. Although del.icio.us's limited character count does encourage a certain twitter-ish brevity, which is probably good discipline for me, I do find it annoying. You also don't get to see what is actually being truncated until you save it.

Ma.gnolia.com has its own application programming interface (API) to interact with the service. However, it also supports an API and other access methods that mirror those in de.licio.us. Thus, with minor (but hard to figure out from the documentation) modifications, I was able to use the same javascript that I use to generate my daily link post from del.icio.us with Ma.gnolia.

The one big downside that I've run into so far is that, although Ma.gnolia claims to import from del.icio.us, it's not clear the import works--at least for large bookmark collections. I fired off the import two days ago and, while it claims to be in process, it hasn't completed yet. I probably won't use the service if I can't, in practice, move my bookmarks over.

(Programming hint. If you've used the JSON approach with del.icio.us to read your bookmarks, the equivalent magic incantation with Ma.gnolia should contain http://ma.gnolia.com/json/mirrord/people/USERNAME )

February 13, 2008 8:12 AM PST

Bookmarking: The red-haired stepchild of social media

by Gordon Haff
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I don't get it.

We have all manner of Web 2.0 properties to cater to just about every sort of online need. I'm not going to name any specific site--any such would be either completely obscure or wildly controversial--but you know what I mean.

However, bookmarking seems to have remained a backwater. There are apparently a lot of sites that are connected with bookmarking in some way. (See, for example, the bookmarking category on this list.) However, the best one can say is that no newcomer has gained any real traction and the sort-of-known--at least within the geek crowd--have done remarkably little over the past few years. In fact, I'm struck that essentially nothing has changed since this 2004 James Governor post. 3+ years is an eternity in Web 2.0.

A del.icio.us 2.0 is in preview; perhaps that will make this discussion moot. The oddly-named del.icio.us certainly appears to be the best-known and have the most critical mass of the social book mark sites. It's just that it hasn't changed in ages. (It's a Yahoo property, story sound familiar?)

From my perspective, the social aspect of these sites is almost secondary. Yes, there are a few friends whose bookmarks I keep an eye on. And, when tagging, seeing what the "crowd" has used as tagging terms can help you stay consistent. But I don't view the storage of bookmarks as primarily a social or sharing activity.

I mostly use del.icio.us to store bookmarks for my own use and to generate blog posts such as this one. Today, that means dealing with homemade scripts and a strictly limited number of characters in the comments or notes about a link. Nor does del.icio.us provide any real organizational tools to easily consolidate or change tags.

In short, bookmarking is such an obvious "cloud" application; a bookmark isn't much use without an Internet connection. (Permanently saving the content of pages is another topic that I view as largely independent of this one.) Yet it's an application space that has been poorly served by "Web 2.0" to date.

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About The Pervasive Data Center

This blog takes a deep (and often skeptical) look at trends big and small in the world of enterprise servers, data centers, and "Yotta-scale" computing. This means also taking into account the myriad of software, networks, and devices that are driving change in (or being driven by) these back-end systems. Stories posted to this blog may also appear on Illuminata's site.

Gordon Haff is a principal IT adviser for Illuminata of Nashua, N.H. Before becoming an IT industry analyst, Gordon held a variety of product-marketing positions at Data General, spanning more than a decade. He's programmed for DOS, Windows, and Linux; builds his own PCs; and holds engineering degrees from MIT and Dartmouth, with an MBA from Cornell. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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