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November 7, 2008 1:17 PM PST

Google and Microsoft executives trade jabs

by Dan Farber
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SAN FRANCISCO--"We don't control the platform. It's magical when it belongs to all of us." Those were the words of Vic Gundotra, who spent 15 years at Microsoft and is now leading Google's application development efforts. He was speaking about the open Web, and Google's open sourcing of much of its code to the developer community at large at the Web 2.0 Summit on Friday.

David Treadwell, vice president of Live Platform Services, took issue with his former colleague's statement about Google not controlling the platform. "If you want to be open, where is the open search and ads?" he said. Gundotra responded that not all parts of the platform have to be open. "The Internet has places to build businesses," he countered. Gundotra closed with, "The big story over the last 10 years is Windows versus the Web, and the Web has won." Treadwell just smiled or grimaced and let it go as the panel came to an end.

Google's Vic Gundotra and Microsoft's David Treadwell

(Credit: CNET News/Dan Farber)

It's clear that Google plans to use its free and open Web strategy to attack Microsoft, but based on the PDC announcements last month the Windows company has a lot of ammunition to fight back.


November 6, 2008 10:52 AM PST

Yahoo's Jerry Yang runs into a wall

by Dan Farber
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The reviews of Jerry Yang's performance at the Web 2.0 Summit have not been glowing. The Yahoo CEO's interview with Web 2.0 Summit co-host John Battelle this week has been described as a train wreck, self-delusional, and as making a mockery of the vaunted company he helped create.

Jerry Yang and John Battelle at the Web 2.0 Summit

(Credit: Dan Farber/CNET Networks)

During the interview, Yang defined Yahoo's vision as a "consumer brand that allows people to get what they want on the Internet." Yahoo is a destination site with starting points, such as Yahoo Finance and the Yahoo home page, and is rewiring its platform to be more open and extensible. It serves billions of dollars in ads and is the No. 2 search engine. It's a sound strategy. Yahoo is not Google or Microsoft and has to double-down on its core assets and 500 million to 600 million users.

Yang's job is to sell that vision inside and especially outside of Yahoo. The problem is Yang can't sell.

He lacks the out-sized personality and charisma that is needed to inspire confidence in battles for the soul of a company. He said he would "go through walls" for Yahoo, but having personal passion and a vision isn't enough to get others to walk through the walls.

He has to convince employees, shareholders, customers, and partners that no matter how difficult the situation, he can lead Yahoo to the promised land. Think reality-distortion field Steve Jobs, no-software Marc Benioff, dancing bear Steve Ballmer, the disarming Howard Stringer, the professorial Eric Schmidt, or the preacher John Chambers. Bill Gates doesn't have the most charismatic or endearing personality, but he manages to control interviews, delivering the messages he wants.

TechCrunch's Mike Arrington wrote that Yahoo needs its Barack Obama, "someone to make everyone believe that a true leader is at the helm, ready to fight. Someone with a believable plan. Someone who can inspire Yahoo--and Yahoo users--to believe that Yahoo can once again become a force on the Internet."

Yang is ready and willing to fight, but the Chief Yahoo needs a new general to lead his troops.

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