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Nintendo DSi's cameras: What are they for?

by Don Reisinger
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Nintendo DSi gets its name from the two cameras?

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A Nintendo of America representative told TechRadar earlier this week that Nintendo's latest entrant into the handheld gaming market, the DSi, has an 'i' attached to the end of its name because "the addition of two cameras gives the system its own "eye" on things." The representative also said it's symbolic of the personal "I."

Cryptic branding aside, are the two cameras really so compelling? I don't see it.

I realize that adding two cameras to the DSi means Nintendo can use that functionality to enhance games and prove that it too can expand the feature set of mobile devices, just like Sony has with the PSP, but I simply don't see how two cameras will somehow improve the experience of my DS.

Perhaps the most compelling use of the DSi's dual-camera setup won't come from Nintendo at all, but from homebrew or third-party apps. The DSi would make an interesting video-conferencing platform, for example.

But so far, Nintendo representatives have said that the two cameras will be used in some way during gameplay to enhance the user's experience. And when not using them for gaming, users will be able to take pictures with both cameras and edit them on the DSi.

That may sound compelling to some, but I'm just not excited for dual cameras. As a DS owner, how important can that dual camera design really be to my "experience?" Sure, there are other features added to the DSi that Nintendo hopes will coax some of us to switch, but considering the vast majority of Nintendo customers will own a DS or DS Lite after the DSi is released, how many developers will really want to tie their game to the DSi's two cameras? I'm guessing few, if any.

The DSi isn't a viable option to replace my current DS. It gets worse battery life, doesn't have a Game Boy Advance cartridge slot, and instead of being the next iteration of the DS, it's actually a complementary version that will be sold next to Nintendo's venerable handheld. Oh, and it's more expensive, too (around $180).

In essence, the DSi's major new update is its two cameras, and I'm not sure how Nintendo or third-party developers will use them. Suffice it to say that editing pictures that I take with my two cameras doesn't justify spending an additional $180 to have the latest Nintendo handheld.

Sorry, Nintendo, but for that "i", I'd need more than two cameras.

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by Arnav February 24, 2009 9:36 AM PST
Well I dont believe it is meant to target people who have the DS. I never had a handheld and when I saw the DSi, thought it looked good enough to wait for instead of buying the DSLite right now.
I think you are forgetting the biggest addition to the DSi is the addition of the Online Store where you can buy and download games to your SD card. I think that is the future of games distribution so Nintendo just wants to have a foot in the door.
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by bithaze February 24, 2009 9:41 AM PST
I agree there isn't much to make this a compelling upgrade, but that's also the reason they're delaying its release here in the States: the DS Lite is still making perfectly good sales. I bought a used SP several months ago but finally broke down and bought myself a DS Lite over the Christmas holiday, which has the same features you mentioned over the DSi.
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by bithaze February 24, 2009 9:43 AM PST
Also, that looks like a DS Lite in your picture there, not a DSi. ;)
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by umbrae February 24, 2009 9:44 AM PST
I think this is mainly to turn the DS into something more useful that just gaming for an older crowd. I am willing to bet this will have a lot of stuff around VOIP and Video Conferencing. Nintendo has said this is not a replacement for the DS lite, so it might only be a experiment in merging DS/PDA/Cellphone functionality into the unit.

I definitely will NOT be getting one, but I do hope it will bring down the price of the Lites as I have an original DS I would like to upgrade.
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by gsimmonsonca February 24, 2009 10:38 AM PST
Lets give them a chance Don, to see what games are coming and how the cameras will be used. Everyone thought the Wii's controller methodology was dumb before we started to see the games for it...
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by gmeixner February 24, 2009 11:30 AM PST
Don do your homework because there is a lot more to the console than just two cameras. Like posters above said, the online store to buy and download apps is definitely intriguing, Apple has done a lot with theirs. Also, the interconnectivity between Wii systems and the DSi are also very interesting. Lastly, the interface, menu and hot swappable capability of the system are things that the current lineup doesnt offer. I am sure there is more, but these are things I know of after seeing a DSi demo'd for about 5 minutes.
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by Zoobie February 24, 2009 12:00 PM PST
When the DS came out, people like Don made the exact same comments about "why would I need two screens?" and "a touch pad is a gimmick that won't add to the gameplay experience." Before you get so negative on a new idea, why don't you let creative people (which apparently Don is not) come up with good uses for the technology.
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by rapier1 February 24, 2009 12:37 PM PST
Two cameras give you depth perception and the ability to track objects in a 3 dimensional space - especially at close ranges. You can sort of do that with one camera but two makes it a lot easier and more accurate.
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by Bbatteries February 24, 2009 8:09 PM PST
? i guess this makes partial sense because that's what two eyes do, but i don't see how it applies to the dsi because the camera's aren't positioned in the same direction
by martyfmelb February 25, 2009 4:10 AM PST
The two cameras are arranged like the two cameras on a 3G mobile: one facing you, another facing away from you. So no, depth perception doesn't apply here (though depth *could* be calculated by moving your DSi between taking 2 consecutive pictures and stabilising for angle/panning variation).
by Hugh_Isaacs_II February 24, 2009 1:12 PM PST
I don't think the cameras is the true update, I think the true update here is the addition of upgradeable firmware, internal memory, SD card slot, more RAM, faster CPU, etc...

The cameras are just the selling point to those who don't understand all of the gamer talk.
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by gefitz February 24, 2009 1:59 PM PST
First, I agree with the above comments that the cameras are not "the DSi's major new update". The upgradability, downloadability, etc, are much more compelling.

Second, very few games used the microphone capability on the old DS, but having it there didn't hurt sales any. Probably didn't even add a lot of size/weight, anyway. So why not throw it on there. Same with the cameras: they're small, so why not?

I'm much more excited by a product that tries something new than by one that comes out with a feature set 100% copied from another company's device. That's why the Wii is so popular. I think given Nintendo's recent history, we can give them the benefit of the doubt on this one?
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by Mergatroid Mania February 24, 2009 2:22 PM PST
I haven't seen the "i" yet, but if the two cameras are pointed in the same direction as one writer already suggested you could take 3D pictures quite easly. That would be pretty cool, although not cool enough to get me to buy one.
If the two cameras are not pointed in the same direction, then I would find the entire upgrade pretty silly. What on earth would anyone need two cameras for? One for open case pictures and one for closed case pictures? Waste of space in that case.
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by Bbatteries February 24, 2009 8:10 PM PST
it takes about 4 seconds to find out that the cameras are not pointed in the same direction
by Beatlesfan94 February 24, 2009 4:14 PM PST
Actually, the DSi will be sold for $169.99. That does not equal $180. I'll most likely be getting a DSi since I only have a DS Phat and the DSiWare is very interesting. I don't need a GBA slot since I'm keeping my Phat and I have a couple of SP's lying around. And maybe DSiWare (which of course will be DSi-exclusive) could take care of the two cameras. It might get worse battery life which is the only con for getting the DSi, as long as it's better than the Phat's, I'm OK. And I can always turn the brightness down and turn off the Wi-Fi when I don't need it.
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by tricolouRR February 24, 2009 4:34 PM PST
what is Don Reisinger b!tching about now?
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by Bbatteries February 24, 2009 8:28 PM PST
"eye" is one of two meanings for the 'i' in dsi according to Nintendo president Iwata. The other refers to the (planned) personal nature of the handheld: the 'i' meant as 'me' or 'mine'. Apparently there are more DS Lite users per household than there are DS Lites per household; in other words, people are sharing their DS Lites. Nintendo wants every DS user to also be a DS owner. Apparently they believe that allowing DS owners to be able to customize their DS will encourage everyone to get their own. I think they might be right.

Picture taking and displaying is a pretty big way that people customize their things: think of your house, desk, facebook page, etc. I don't think that this is a major selling point for the DSi but it's at least an important one to mention. However, i agree with others that have said that the cameras will probably be a bust if they don't find some way to incorporate them into gameplay in a way that improves the game, and not just as a novelty (the Japanese dsishop warioware title is an okay start).
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by Rakz87 February 25, 2009 12:51 PM PST
Well to be fair the title does just say "Nintendo DSi's cameras: What are they for?", so to be honest thats why he keeps going on about this feature. But what he's clearly "forgotten" is to go into the other features. As have many above have explained the many better featers for eg. the downloadable software, SD slot and ability to surf the web. All qualitys which sees this as a clear "Upgrade", but to be honest i won't be in a hurry to get one.

As per always they seem to bring out another model at least a year later which everyone wishes they got in the fisrt plae, eg. gameboy then the colour, the sp then the advance sp and finally the ds then ds lite. So im more than sure there will be a better version to hold out for and with a 0.3 mp camera on this and their being phones with 8 mp now i don't see how they thought they could get away with this.lol.
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by Inconnux February 26, 2009 7:14 PM PST
What you don't seem to understand is the target audience... kids... Every DS comes with a network chat program that (according to my daughter) is very popular on Bus trips. A camera would also be a great idea for a video conferencing over wireless internet.
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