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May 8, 2008 4:00 AM PDT

TorrentSpy to appeal whopper legal judgment

by Greg Sandoval
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TorrentSpy intends to appeal a court decision that requires the now-defunct search engine to pay $111 million in damages to the six largest film studios, according to the company's attorney.

TorrentSpy attorney Ira Rothken

Ira Rothken has defended TorrentSpy since 2006, when it was accused in a lawsuit filed by the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) of encouraging copyright infringement. In an interview with CNET News.com on Wednesday night, Rothken said the judge's decision was an "abuse of discretion" and suggested that the large dollar amount was an attempt to draw attention to the case.

"What is really going on here is a Hollywood public-relations stunt," Rothken said. "The reason for the size of the judgment was so a bunch of news organizations would write that 'a $100 million judgment was issued against a bunch of pirates' when, in fact, it was declared against a company with no appreciable assets that has already declared bankruptcy."

An MPAA representative could not be reached for comment.

According to Rothken, TorrentSpy filed bankruptcy in England last week and is without the ability to pay even a fraction of the $100 million, rendering the judgment's dollar amount meaningless.

In March, when TorrentSpy executives shut down the site, they noted that the cost of defending the case was hundreds of thousands of dollars.

TorrentSpy helps users locate BitTorrent files, and since BiTorrent is a technology favored by those sharing digital files illegally, the site was known as an important tool for pirates. But the company argued that it never hosted any unauthorized content and shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of its users--just as Google isn't held accountable when people use its service to find pirated content.

The MPAA disagreed, claiming that unlike Google, TorrentSpy existed primarily to help people rip off Hollywood.

In December, TorrentSpy got into trouble with U.S. District Judge Florence-Marie Cooper, who presided over the case, when she determined that TorrentSpy operators intentionally destroyed evidence, making it impossible for the MPAA to get a fair trial. TorrentSpy had earlier been fined $30,000 for violations of discovery orders.

Cooper took the unusual step of terminating the case, which meant that she had found in the MPAA's favor and simply had to determine the damage amount.

But Rothken said the case has no precedent-setting value because TorrentSpy never got its day in court. This may come as good news to IsoHunt, one of TorrentSpy's former competitors, which has also been sued by the MPAA for allegedly violating copyright.

"The decision means absolutely nothing as it relates to other (BitTorrent cases)," Rothken said. "It issue was not decided on the merits. It's obvious we are going to appeal."

March 27, 2008 12:46 PM PDT

After TorrentSpy closure, what's next for MPAA?

by Greg Sandoval
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The movie industry has seen mixed results from suing individuals for file sharing but continues to clobber BitTorrent search engines.

TorrentSpy, once one of the most popular indexes of BitTorrent files, shut down on Monday following a two-year copyright battle with the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA). TorrentSpy, accused in a lawsuit of encouraging copyright infringement, finally crumpled under the legal costs.

This can't come as good news to Gary Fung, chief executive of IsoHunt. His company was among a group of torrent-file search engines, which also included TorrentSpy, accused of copyright infringement in a 2006 lawsuit filed by the MPAA. With TorrentSpy gone, the MPAA can now set its sights on IsoHunt.

But Fung points out that TorrentSpy was never able to argue the main copyright issues in court. The presiding judge found in favor of the film studios after ruling that TorrentSpy destroyed evidence. Fung says he is determined to take up the copyright issue to the end. Unlike TorrentSpy, he doesn't care what it costs.

"The demise of TorrentSpy is a clear victory for the content industries and sends a clear message to operators of other illegal BitTorrent portals that they will not be allowed to operate in the United States without facing relentless litigation by copyright holders."
--statement from MPAA

The courts have not yet ruled on whether search tools can be held liable for copyright infringement. Most relevant cases have been settled before going to trial, copyright experts said. It's important to note that IsoHunt and TorrentSpy don't store any unauthorized movie files on their sites but the search engines are often used to find pirated copies.

"There is no reason for us not to see this through. We've come this far," Fung told CNET News.com on Thursday. "TorrentSpy shutting down doesn't mean a victory for the MPAA. The judge declared that TorrentSpy didn't adhere to court procedures. That's different than a judge deciding against the company after hearing their arguments."

But Fung is up against an MPAA legal juggernaut that is playing on its home turf, is fresh off a series of court victories, and has plenty of money. The lobbying group for the six largest movie studios said in a statement on Thursday that it took issue with TorrentSpy's suggestion earlier this week that it lost on a technicality.

"TorrentSpy's characterization of the site's closure as a voluntary decision conveniently ignores the fact that after two years of intense litigation by the major Hollywood studios, a federal court found TorrentSpy liable for copyright infringement," the MPAA said in the statement. "Late last year the court imposed the harshest sanction against the TorrentSpy defendants and ruled in favor of the studios because of TorrentSpy's brazen, continuous, and systematic destruction of evidence and subversion of the judicial process. In short, the ruling meant that TorrentSpy would have to shut down their site sooner or later."

The MPAA's case against IsoHunt is in the U.S. District Court of Central California in Los Angeles, which is perceived by many to be extremely friendly to copyright holders.

Whether that is true, the film industry has racked up plenty of file-sharing victories. Besides TorrentSpy, the MPAA was blamed for driving LokiTorrent and SuprNova.org out of business. And more recently, the MPAA won important legal precedents in the TorrentSpy case.

In June, TorrentSpy was ordered by a federal judge to provide the film studios with user information found in the company's computer RAM. TorrentSpy filed an appeal and argued that data in a computer's RAM was too temporary to be considered "stored information," and that it was impractical for companies to produce such material as part of a civil suit.

In August, the judge denied TorrentSpy's appeal. The decision will conceivably enable the MPAA to gain access to users' personal information in similar cases, say legal experts.

"The demise of TorrentSpy is a clear victory for the content industries," the MPAA said in its statement, "and sends a clear message to operators of other illegal BitTorrent portals that they will not be allowed to operate in the United States without facing relentless litigation by copyright holders."

Fung said he's been fighting the MPAA's attempts to require him to turn over user logs on the grounds that his company is based in Canada, which has stricter privacy laws than the United States.

But the 25-year-old CEO acknowledges that the U.S. and Canadian governments have agreed to honor court decisions in each other's countries.

"IsoHunt is located in Canada and has a slightly different set of circumstances than TorrentSpy," said IsoHunt's attorney, Ira Rothken, who also represented TorrentSpy. "IsoHunt is waiting for the (judge's decision) on a motion for summary judgment. The company is looking forward to defending itself and being the first to go to trial in a search-engine case."

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March 27, 2008 8:49 AM PDT

TorrentSpy shuts down

by Greg Sandoval
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A prolonged legal fight with the movie industry has forced TorrentSpy, BitTorrent's popular search engine, to shut down.

"The legal climate in the USA for copyright, privacy of search requests, and links to torrent files in search results is simply too hostile," said a note on TorrentSpy's front door. "We spent the last two years, and hundreds of thousands of dollars, defending the rights of our users and ourselves... we now feel compelled to provide the ultimate method of privacy protection for our users - permanent shutdown."

In 2006, the largest Hollywood film studios accused TorrentSpy in a lawsuit of encouraging movie piracy. A federal judge ordered the company last June to provide the studios with user information found in its computer RAM.

TorrentSpy, often used by file sharers to find bootleg films, tried a series of legal maneuvers in an attempt to protect the anonymity of visitors. In August, the company cut off access to residents of the United States, presumably to avoid complying with the court order.

In December, the judge in the case found that TorrentSpy operators intentionally destroyed evidence in the case, making it impossible for the Motion Picture Association of America to get a fair trial. They had earlier been fined $30,000 for violations of discovery orders and were warned of severe sanctions if they continued to ignore the orders.

The judge ruled against TorrentSpy, which meant that all the company could do was argue over the amount of damages. From that point on, it appeared as if TorrentSpy's days were numbered.

October 11, 2007 4:00 AM PDT

Movie studios to judge: TorrentSpy defies court order

by Greg Sandoval
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To avoid having to turn over user information to the motion picture industry, the BitTorrent indexing service TorrentSpy cut off access to its site in the United States. Apparently, that wasn't enough to satisfy Hollywood.

According to documents filed with the court last week and reviewed by CNET News.com on Wednesday, the studios still want information on the site's visitors. Lawyers representing the studios--armed with a court order--say TorrentSpy has refused to hand over the data. Because of that, the movie sector wants the judge to throw the book at the company.

"(TorrentSpy) took steps to make the Server Log Data unavailable for the express purpose of avoiding compliance with the (court) order," the movie studios said in documents filed with the court last week. "This claim should be seen for what it is: another illegitimate attempt by defendants to evade authority of this court and the May 29 order."

TorrentSpy was ordered in May to begin tracking visitors' activity and collect information, such as what BitTorrent files users requested as well as the time and date of those requests. This would show whether TorrentSpy users were on the site for legal purposes or whether the service existed to enable piracy.

During the time a judge was reviewing TorrentSpy's appeal to overturn the order, company executives made some adjustments to the site.

Sometime in July, TorrentSpy stopped providing users with cached downloads of BitTorrent files, the technology favored by many for distributing large files over the Web and a favorite of the file-sharing community, according to court documents. This meant that searches for BitTorrent files at TorrentSpy would return only links to third-party sites.

Clicking on those links wouldn't ping TorrentSpy's servers, and as a result, none of the data that the film companies sought would be stored on TorrentSpy's RAM.

Was this an attempt by the company to evade the judge's order?

"The primary reason for the changes was to protect end-user privacy worldwide," said Ira Rothken, TorrentSpy's attorney. "Web sites are allowed to evolve their technology during litigation especially if they evolve to protect user privacy. The irony here is that studios are blowing hot and cold. On one hand they asked in their lawsuit for TorrentSpy in essence to shut down U.S. traffic. When the company did, the plaintiffs complained that TorrentSpy is in violation for not supplying information under the log file order. They're never satisfied."

The studios first filed their copyright lawsuit against TorrentSpy last year.

On May 29, Jacqueline Chooljian, a federal magistrate judge in Los Angeles, ordered TorrentSpy to hand over information about user activity.

TorrentSpy executives told the judge that they never tracked visitors' activity. She responded by telling them to retrieve the information from their servers' random-access memory, or RAM.

In an unprecedented decision, the judge ruled that data found in RAM is a tangible document that can be stored and must be turned over in civil litigation. TorrentSpy argued that RAM is far too ephemeral to be considered "stored data."

In August, TorrentSpy appealed the decision but lost. The company then shut down access to U.S. residents. If TorrentSpy had no U.S. users, then there wouldn't be any information stored in the company's RAM under the judge's purview, legal experts said. Only data on International users would be logged and U.S. courts don't have authority over them.

But the studios didn't go away.

For not complying with the court order, Hollywood has asked the judge to impose evidentiary sanctions against the company, documents show. As part of the sanctions, the studios want the judge to rule that the movies belonging to the studios found on TorrentSpy's site infringed on their copyright. They also want the judge to find that the site has no "substantial noninfringing uses."

This would effectively label TorrentSpy a pirate site and make it very difficult for the company to prevail in its civil trial against the film industry.

Just how long it will take for the judge to rule on the studios' application for sanctions is unclear. Rothken said he expects that she will call for more briefings soon.

July 9, 2007 3:43 PM PDT

Child porn allegations: New tactic in fighting file sharing?

by Greg Sandoval
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There has always been plenty of bitterness between copyright holders and the file-sharing community, but some now contend hostilities have sunk to a new low.

Swedish authorities last week were preparing to shut down The Pirate Bay, according to Peter Sunde, one of the site's founders. Was the site facing closure for helping users find bootlegged music or video files, as the film and music industries have long alleged? No, The Pirate Bay was being accused of distributing child pornography, Sunde said.

The accusation was nothing more than a backdoor attempt to kill off The Pirate Bay since both Sweden and the United States have failed to close the site for allegedly violating copyright law, Sunde claimed in a phone interview with CNET News.com on Monday. Following a wave of media attention over the weekend, Sweden's government has apparently backed down. Sunde quoted from an e-mail sent by a government official that notified the site's operators they would not be accused of distributing porn.

"The government is angry at us because they can't shut us down," Sunde said. "Now they are trying to ruin our reputations."

Sunde called the allegations against the site "unsettling." He worries that the incident might signal a new willingness by the forces warring against copyright infringement to use smear tactics. Swedish authorities could not be reached for comment.

Regardless of whether Sweden was actually trying to close The Pirate Bay, the incident illustrates just how much the file-sharing community distrusts and fears the lobbying groups that represent the film and music industries. A torrent site can't be slow to load anymore without users suspecting Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) sabotage.

Some of the paranoia may be exacerbated by the entertainment industry's string of recent victories over file sharing.

TorrentSpy, a U.S.-based BitTorrent search engine is fighting a court order to turn over user information to the MPAA. The site's owners have indicated that they would cease operating in the U.S. rather than hand over the data. In what was seen by many as a capitulation to the MPAA, TorrentSpy and competitor IsoHunt both agreed last month to filter copyright material.

At the request of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), the U.S. government's efforts to convince Russia to close AllofMP3.com, a music site that sold unprotected music files without the authorization of record labels, appears to have worked. The site went dark last week, although the operators have apparently reopened under a new name, according to reports.

Another factor is the allegation made by TorrentSpy in a lawsuit filed against the MPAA last year. TorrentSpy claims that the group hired a hacker to crack the company's servers and steal TorrentSpy's trade secrets. The MPAA has denied the accusation.

These are the kind of things that keeps file sharers and some site operators looking over their shoulders.

"I'm very concerned about the (child porn accusations)," Sunde said. "But I'm not frightened. People know this is only a tactic on their part to hurt us.

"I don't think it stops here," he added. "I think it's only going to be worse. We have a fight coming."

UPDATE

Reuters is reporting that Sweden's Justice Ministry proposed legislation on Monday that if passed would give copyright holders the right to demand that Internet Service Providers turn over names of suspected file sharers.

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