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March 12, 2009 6:47 PM PDT

Google Voice: Flawed but still awesome

by Larry Magid
(Credit: Google)

Google's new Google Voice has a few rough edges but for many users, it could be a life-changing experience.

The service, a relaunch of GrandCentral, which Google bought in 2007, allows you to choose a local number, which will simultaneously ring up to six phones such as your cell phone, home phone, office phone, and the phone at that vacation home that most of us can only dream about.

In addition to forwarding your calls, it also takes voice messages that you can listen to on the Web, from a phone, or read, thanks to a new feature that transcribes voice messages and sends them as e-mail and text messages.

If you have multiple phones, having a single number to reach them all can make you and your callers' lives a bit easier, and it can save space on your business card by not having to list separate numbers. The concept is simple: people are trying to reach you--not one of your phones--and Google Voice lets you decide how to route the calls.

The simultaneous ring feature can also be used by groups. Team HOPE, a support network for families of missing children, gives callers a GrandCentral number that rings the phones of several staff members to ensure that calls are always answered.

I've been using a very similar "simulring" feature on Vonage for several years and like the fact that I get to control where my calls are forwarded. Both Google and Vonage let you configure forwarding from the Web, but Google also allows you to assign a temporary forwarding number directly from the phone. That could come in handy, if you suddenly find your cell phone out of range but have access to another number where you can be reached.

The call-recording feature is very cool. At any time during an incoming call, you can press 4 to start the recorder and 4 again to stop it. That can be handy if you're driving and someone is about to give you a phone number, address, or something else that you can't write down.

The recording feature can also be used by podcasters to record phone calls that can be exported as MP3 files. And yes, there is an announcement to inform the other party that you're recording the call.

You also get free conference calls. Up to four people can dial your phone number and can be patched into the call.

Cheap international calls
People who make occasional international calls from a cell phone will get incredible savings, compared to what the carriers charge. Using Google Voice to call a landline in London, for example, costs 2 cents a minute, compared to the whopping $1.49 that Verizon Wireless and AT&T charge, if you don't purchase an international calling plan.

Even with a calling plan, the carrier rates, though much cheaper, are still higher than what Google charges. Making calls could be easier. You dial your Google number, press 2, and then punch in 011 plus the country code and phone number.

Bugs and rough edges
I have encountered a few annoying bugs in my day 1 experience with the service. For one, I'm not able to delete voice mail from my cell phone, despite following the instructions to press 7 to "archive" messages. Every time I call my voice mail, those messages are still there, as if they were new. Although the voice mail transcription service works, the message isn't always delivered promptly. Sometimes it arrives in a few minutes, but at other times, it's taken up to 20 minutes.

Although not a bug and not Google's fault, it's unfortunate that you can't use your Google number as your outgoing caller ID when you dial directly from a cell phone. Although there are ways to spoof that, for security reasons, phone companies don't allow it.

The problem is that people are in the habit of you calling back on your caller ID, which makes it harder to train them to dial your Google number. Your Google caller ID will show up correctly, however, if you initiate the call from your Google Voice Web page or if you dial your own Google number and then press 2 to dial out and type in the number. This process, I suspect, is more of a hassle than it's worth.

There also isn't yet a way to transfer an existing phone number to Google, so you're stuck having to give out the new Google number. The service works only with U.S. phone numbers; you can't forward calls overseas.

Because it's an incoming service only, you can't record outbound calls, and you can't use Google Voice to add people to a call. They have to call you.

The service is currently available only to people who had previously signed up for GrandCentral. Google hasn't announced when others can sign up.

Still, despite some flaws and limitations, this could turn out to be one of Google's most beloved services. Being able to read your voice mail and having one number that rings all your phones is terrific, especially at the amazingly low price of free.

(This post has been updated to note that your Google caller ID will display correctly if you dial via the service's Web site or use the service's dial-out feature.)

Listen to Larry's interview with Craig Walker, Google Voice guru and co-founder of GrandCentral

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Larry Magid is a technology journalist and an Internet safety advocate. He's been writing and speaking about Internet safety since he wrote Internet safety guide "Child Safety on the Information Highway" in 1994. He is co-director of ConnectSafely.org, founder of SafeKids.com and SafeTeens.com, and a board member of the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. Larry's technology analysis and commentary can be heard on CBS News and CBS affiliates, and read on CBSNews.com. He also writes a personal-tech column for the San Jose Mercury News. You can e-mail Larry or follow him on Twitter @larrymagid.
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by carlg113 March 12, 2009 7:12 PM PDT
I signed up awhile ago during beta but never used. From what I see Google has really improved the service. I can't wait to give it a try.

I welcome our new google overlords!
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by jlm429 March 13, 2009 6:18 AM PDT
There's no such thing as a free lunch. Google makes you pay with your privacy.
by JabberWockey March 15, 2009 7:05 AM PDT
jlm429, can you give me five scenarios where this is a really bad thing? Google is an advertising company that offers free services in order to understand who they are trying to advertise to. They are still bound by the law, and you are just another scared alarmist.
by juanv1 March 15, 2009 11:51 AM PDT
JabberWockey, can you provide us with one scenario where giving up privacy for the sake of a convenience would be a good thing? Alarmism aside, erosion is a gradual process.
by 3tire March 16, 2009 3:07 AM PDT
juanv1, here's a scenario, google voice. What is truly private about anything that is being talked about here?
by juanv1 March 16, 2009 10:48 AM PDT
Your phone calls and messages aren't private? Maybe others are private, and they're not thinking along the lines of this being an exposure as well as a convenience. What happens to this data traversing Google's servers? Where and how is it stored? Who has access to it? Is it backed up forever, like your gmail? What information can be derived from this data en masse? Perhaps that is more than you would care to share with a corporation, perhaps not. But at least be aware of what is happening.
by J3RI3L March 16, 2009 9:36 PM PDT
U guys really care 'bout Ur privacy on internet? HELLO!!!, Here nothing is private so U'd better not use Internet Geniuses...
by wokka-wokka March 21, 2009 8:38 AM PDT
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by bhartman35 July 8, 2009 7:59 AM PDT
"You have zero privacy, anyway. Get over it." - [i]Scott McNealy, Sun Microsystems[/i]

Truer words were never spoken. Once you get on the Internet, you're in a [i]publlic[/i] place, just as surely as if you were in a McDonald's or a public library. If you really have a problem with the idea of anyone having any idea what you're doing or talking about, allowing your voice or text to go over a system with thousands of servers, each of which store your data (even if only temporarily) is a bad idea, at best.

What the companies can subsequently [i]do[/i] with the information is a different question. Different companies have different policies, which users have to read if they're going to be dilligent consumers. But the fact of the matter is, if you plan to use the Internet anonymously, and don't expect governmental authorities to be able to track what you're doing... Well, all I can say is, you'd better make another plan, because that ain't gonna happen.
by computerdude500 March 12, 2009 7:19 PM PDT
looks so awesome can't wait for it to come out to the public.
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by OctoChops March 12, 2009 7:21 PM PDT
I really don't understand how google can keep offering all of this stuff for free. I mean, its such an amazing service! Even something unrealistic like $10 dollars a year would be more for them than free.
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by P0gU March 13, 2009 5:18 AM PDT
It gives people more reasons to be on Google's websites, increasing their advertising exposure. :)
by thrawnis March 12, 2009 7:29 PM PDT
FYI, if you have an iPhone, get the GrandDialer app. It will let you make outgoing calls using your GrandCentral/GVoice phone number. It is a great little app actually!
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by carlg113 March 12, 2009 8:00 PM PDT
I just started playing around with my GrandCentral account when i realized that my outgoing calls will still have my original number show up on caller id. I know you can work around it by calling GC first then inputting the number you want to call, but thats way too much work.

Thats awesome news someone already made an app to solve this. I have the G1 Android phone not the IPhone so hopefully Google will make something similar. It would need sms support as well though.
by 1g2j March 12, 2009 8:15 PM PDT
carlg113--
Just save all your numbers in the GC address book and call.
Also,
Download Gizmo5 onto your mobile device or PC and get free unlimited calling also bypassing phone companies when you associate your Gizmo5 account with your GC account.
by lozer4all March 13, 2009 6:07 AM PDT
If you have a G1 through T-Mobile, add the GV number to your Faves accout. That way all calls made through GV will be unlimited minutes, then GV will connect you using their terms. Basically free calling to all your contacts and international dialing will be cheap.

I wonder how long this will last until someone catches on.

Google is now intergrating themselves into a brand new industry and a very new way. Awesome!
by bstringy March 13, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
Yes, adding your GV number as one of your Faves is a huge factor. I see Verizon finally jumped on with a plan of their own, but require a $90/mo family plan or $60/mo individual plan, whereas Tmobile's family plan starts at $70 and individual plan starts at $40.

My guess is Tmobile will embrace GV while the other carriers resist. With Tmobile's adoption of WMA (calling over wifi) in many of their phones, it shows they are not intent on milking the customer's minutes rather they are interested in attracting customers. They seem to be the only carrier that understands their role as a bandwidth provider. The others are fixed on the idea that they can earn more by developing features and charge more for them. I say let the carrier just carry my traffic and leave features to the software people where the cost can be shared.

It was sad to see that Google did not make the winning bid in the wireless spectrum auction a year or two ago. This would have sped things up. Perhaps Google will decide to buy wireless bandwidth at wholesale rates from all carriers and produce phones with dual radios (cdma/gsm). This would give the customer the best possible coverage at the best possible rate, the way it ought to be.

The winner over the next five years will be the carrier that embraces new disruptive technologies and originates calls and data connections at no extra cost via wifi, thus extending their network for free.
by jhoff80 March 12, 2009 7:53 PM PDT
Yet another blog written by someone who doesn't entirely understand the service. What you're supposed to do is call out from the website. So, you click Bob Smith's name in your contacts to call them, then Google Voice CALLS YOU first, and immediately after you pick up, starts dialing Bob. This way, your number shows as your GV number on that person's caller ID, and you still have all of the in-call features.

Sure, that's a little inconvenient, but this is written as if you don't even know that exists.
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by carlg113 March 12, 2009 8:10 PM PDT
You can call out using your GC number from your cell its just a process.

Video here
https://www.google.com/voice/about

Call your own GC number first, then hit 2, then put in recipients number. It is inconvenient though. thrawnis left the comment up above about an iphone app that works around that though. I sure Google will eventually release android, symbian, winmo voice apps.
by larrymagid March 12, 2009 10:04 PM PDT
I did know it existed but you're right it wasn't clear in the article. I just fixed that with a note at the bottom that I edited in that caller ID does display correctly if you dial from the website. Thanks for making this point.
by larrymagid March 12, 2009 10:13 PM PDT
I edited the column to include this point as well as the fact you can get caller ID to show up using the call-out feature from a cell phone. Still, it's not exactly the most convenient way to dial but your point is well taken.
by 1g2j March 12, 2009 8:20 PM PDT
"Although not a bug and not Google's fault, it's unfortunate that you can't use your Google number as your outgoing caller ID"

Thats incorrect. When I call out my GV/GC number shows up on phones I call. Unless they remove the feature.
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by larrymagid March 12, 2009 10:10 PM PDT
Good point. I edited the column to reflect this and noted it at the bottom. Thanks.
by datarecoveryguy March 12, 2009 8:32 PM PDT
The major feature of "find me" has been available in vonage, speakeasy voip and many others for awhile. It has been a requirement for my use.
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by christietayloronline March 12, 2009 9:26 PM PDT
Larry I have Vonage too, but the one I love I recently fell in love with is RingCentral. It is on the cutting edge with routing calls as well as toll-free numbers and fax capabilities too. I would like your comparison of RingCentral to Google's. Also eVoice is great.
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by ATP-1 March 12, 2009 10:20 PM PDT
This is great news America! But, I wonder if (& when) it will be available for those of us resident overseas... . Hmmm...a journo specialising in technology, writing on the internet, yet possesses the mindset of someone who operates only within the US.

What about us? Don't we count?
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by forever4now March 13, 2009 2:18 AM PDT
Google has to start somewhere and the US is as good a market as any to refine the technology. They also need to address the issue of language localization for a global offering, although I'm sure many people would accept the service in English, just to be able to use it.
by geekbrit March 13, 2009 3:10 AM PDT
This is something I do with Vonage - simultaneous ring home and cell phones. The downside is that if my cellphone is switched off, the home phone doesn't ring because the cell phone company directs the call immediately to voicemail.
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by sumanth165 March 13, 2009 4:13 AM PDT
That's great news! Wish it comes soon to other countries soon!
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by verice March 13, 2009 5:02 AM PDT
It's very easy to use the mobile Grandcentral website (http://m.grandcentral.com) to dial anyone in your addressbook and your Grandcentral phone number will show up.
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by Expat type March 13, 2009 5:10 AM PDT
Google only needs to do one thing to have the perfect KILLER APP..... Let you mark telemarketer calls as telemarketers, and if enough calls were made to subscribers, block those numbers. The founders of Google would go down in history as the ones that killed the telemarketers off!
Maybe no one has noticed this possibility yet.....
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by BIGELLOW March 13, 2009 7:26 AM PDT
They already do this. They already did this as GrandCentral. You can mark callers as "spam" and calls from them are sent to the "spam" folder. It treats voicemails very much like emails, incoming voicemails go into the inbox, listening to them marks them as read, etc, etc...

I think they need to take this "voicemail as email" paradigm even further. Since it transcribes voicemails, we should be able to create filters to automatically add labels to voicemails based on words said, who it's from, etc... Also, just like how GMail allows you to point to a third-party POP3 account and have it pull those emails into your GMail inbox... if Google made it so that Google Voice could dial into your third-party voicemail provider, entered your PIN, and retrieved new voicemails at the provider... then re-recorded these messages and stored them in Google Voice, it would make it a whole lot easier for people to make the transition... or deal with those cases where someone still calls your cell phone directly and leaves a voicemail, even though you've told them repeatedly not to call it anymore.
by BIGELLOW March 13, 2009 7:19 AM PDT
To those who say that it isn't free, that we're paying with our privacy, thanks for always pointing out the obvious. What's great these days is my wallet is really light on cash, but it's overflowing with privacy. I've got tons of this privacy that I have available to spend. Bring on the price tags with amounts of privacy instead of amounts of cash. I'm going on a shopping spree!
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by alflanagan March 13, 2009 8:03 AM PDT
I'm reasonably sure that the sentence "Making calls could be easier. " was intended to be "Making calls could not be easier. "
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by frankz00 March 13, 2009 9:12 AM PDT
Couldn't a Google Voice app solve the caller-id problem. If you're listening to voicemail, being able to call back from the voicemail would kind of solve it as well.

Whatever the case, I've been using GrandCentral for about a year now and it is EXCELLENT. I'm glad Google is actually doing something with it. For a while it seemed like they were doing nothing.

Now if they'd only get last in first out voicemail going....
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by gzx08s March 13, 2009 2:20 PM PDT
Have you guys reviewed Callwave (partially owned by Cisco).

I've been a user of both Callwave and Grandcentral for many years.

Google Voice is great, however users must realize the GC number belongs to Google and not the user.

With Callwave you use your mobile/landline and have all the convenience of Google Voice.

Personally I like google Voice because I hate having to physically dial a number. I like to click on a contact and dial out.

I'm hoping Google adds the ability to integrate your own cell # into voicemail like Callwave, then they'd have a kick ass solution.

The key now is to figure out what the clowns at Cisco do, I really don't feel they have clue about the Goldmine they're sitting on with Callwave and it's amazing that they are letting Google walk away with a very large market opportunity.
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by sachanta1 March 13, 2009 2:39 PM PDT
did yahoo not do something identical about 10 years ago? i wonder what happened to that service...
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by mattflaschen March 13, 2009 3:52 PM PDT
"Although there are ways to spoof that, for security reasons, phone companies don't allow it. "

Why not just use SpoofCard (http://www.spoofcard.com/) if it's important to you?
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by jrinco11 March 13, 2009 7:30 PM PDT
I've got some sample transcriptions, with audio, if yall want to see how accurate it is over at http://www.jrin.net/2009_03_13/google-voice-review --
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by blizzardofoz July 19, 2009 6:44 PM PDT
Umm, your site has a trojan! I suggest you clean that up ASAP

As for translation, I have found that it doesn't do a great job. We tested with some messages this morning. One particularly bad one was...

Original test message: "Hi, this is Marisa. I'm petting the cats. The cats are awesome." Google translated that to "Hi this is crystal with and I'm putting the cat in the cat is calling from okay".

Seriously Google?
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