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December 4, 2008 12:00 PM PST

Facebook Connect officially open

by Rafe Needleman
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Facebook is officially announcing on Thursday that its log-in system, Facebook Connect, is officially open for business for non-Facebook sites.

The social network is making the implementation of Facebook Connect self-service, so anyone who has a site with even a smidgen of community features can hook into the Facebook social universe.

As I wrote earlier, it's hard to say no to this program. Not just because adding the capability to a site to let users "register" with their existing Facebook credentials will boost community involvement, but because what users do on these sites can get reflected back to their activity stream on Facebook. It's free marketing.

CitySearch users can now log in with their Facebook credentials.

Because Facebook Connect is not just a registration system, but also a marketing channel with a built-in audience of 130 million monthly active users (according to Facebook), this program will crush competing registration systems.

One can argue the merits of platforms like OpenID or Google's Friend Connect, but a technical or philosophical discussion--where OpenID adherents especially would be able to score points on Facebook Connect boosters--would be trumped by the real world.

Sites will adopt Facebook Connect for two reasons. First, their users are already actively using it; millions of users have OpenID log-ins and don't even know it. And second, because it's not just a registration system, it's that marketing channel.

Self-interest (on the part of site owners) wins over philosophy. Facebook gets that. That's why it wins.

Comments you leave on a Facebook Connect-using site can get posted your your Facebook profile.

Facebook Senior Platform Manager Dave Morin told me that many beta test sites that have been using Facebook Connect (there are several dozen so far) have been seeing users log in with their Facebook IDs instead of their pre-existing site IDs at about a 2:1 ratio. Facebook Connect gives site managers the option to tie their local registration credentials to Facebook IDs, so users can log in either way.

As of this writing, the biggest site using Facebook Connect is CitySearch, Morin said.

Other global registration systems could eventually play in the Facebook Connect ecosystem. In fact, it may eventually be wise for Facebook to allow alternate sign-on systems--such as OpenID--to get users into the Facebook world. But not now.

Disclosure: CNET and publisher CBS are, or will be, using Facebook Connect on various sites. I was not a part of the team that made the implementation decisions.

Rafe Needleman writes about start-ups, new technologies, and Web 2.0 products, as editor of CNET's Webware. E-mail Rafe.
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by andrew.mager December 4, 2008 12:09 PM PST
Yea, the "social" network is Facebook. Google is more like a utility to me. I don't wanna use it to communicate. Frankly, I don't trust it.
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by Kev_Orng December 4, 2008 1:28 PM PST
What are the settings I have to change to ensure that Facebook's servers do not talk to other servers about what I'm doing, and how do I opt out of all of Facebook Connect's functionality?
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by DnetMHZ December 4, 2008 1:32 PM PST
Just don't use it?
by SteveNacho December 5, 2008 11:00 AM PST
Just don't connect
by DnetMHZ December 4, 2008 1:30 PM PST
There is enough crap on Facebook as it is. I don't need to see every time "John Doe found a restaurant in New York!"
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by gonumber2539 December 4, 2008 1:46 PM PST
Rubbish! Who are you to say that the millions (if not billions) of us out there who dislike services like Facebook should use it as our login. There are better alternatives - and their logins are NOT tied to a specific technology. Watch this space.
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by toresteen December 4, 2008 3:22 PM PST
It is great to see website owners realizing they can both increase registrations and gather rich profile/social data by accepting third party accounts such as Facebook, AOL, Yahoo!, and Google. However, it does not need to be a decision between Facebook and OpenID. Why shouldn't websites allow users to sign in with any one of their preferred third party accounts? While the undertaking to connect all these services on a website might seem challenging, JanRain recently launched a quick and easy hosted service that does all this for the site. It is called RPX and can be downloaded at http://rpxnow.com.
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by ross613 December 5, 2008 1:40 AM PST
"One can argue the merits of platforms like OpenID or Google's Friend Connect"

....or Microsoft's Live ID (formerly known as Passport). Forgot about that again, did we? Perfectly understandable - after all, it's only the largest and most widely adopted authentication system online today. But at least OpenID and the even better-known "Friend Connect" services were mentioned...

Anyway, Live ID integrates best with apps running on Microsoft's .NET platform and is already used by millions who've signed up for Live Messenger and/or other online services. I'm skeptical that with such a legacy Facebook will simply instantly catch up or overtake Microsoft with this new service, but we'll see.
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by samkass December 7, 2008 12:04 PM PST
Funny, I've never seen a single site that required me to have a LiveID (I don't have one). Maybe it's only important if you use Windows? Dunno.

Anyway, since Facebook is just another thinly veiled Microsoft-controlled company at this point I think the entire POINT of this is to get LiveID actually used somewhere relevant.
by merelogic December 5, 2008 2:29 AM PST
@andrew.mager

Facebook wasn't supposed to be trusted first due to first the Beacon and then Microsoft's involvement. But frankly, I think Google has lived long enough to see itself become the villain (taken from The Dark Knight :))
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by sting7k December 5, 2008 8:07 AM PST
So what is this exactly? Just the Facebook version of Microsoft's LIVE ID (pasport) it would seem. I don't really see the point.
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by Dalkorian December 5, 2008 3:09 PM PST
You don't see the point, or you don't see the benefit to you? The point is simple - funnel all your online data and activities to Facebook for commercial use that you don't profit from.

The benefit to you?
???
by getFBout December 5, 2008 3:48 PM PST
thanks for this story
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by baisa December 5, 2008 5:54 PM PST
Is this the same Facebook that abused users' privacy information a few months back with their opt-out-by-default sharing system, that did things like expose movie rentals and book purchases users made for the world to see???

I am amazed anyone would trust Facebook with anything, let alone giving them the master keys to all your web logins.
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by sashyrichmond December 5, 2008 7:31 PM PST
amazing!
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by zcollvee December 6, 2008 1:02 AM PST
when is fb connect coming to CNET?
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by troutsoup December 6, 2008 12:51 PM PST
ug. openID hasnt caught on yet. msn passport is used i think on 3 sites. what i can see happening is everyone trying to make their log-on anywhere technology and sites being cluttered by them.
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by humanssssss December 7, 2008 2:22 PM PST
Facebook is known to intrude on user's privacy and then say sorry later. News feed, beacon, etc. I don't trust this company one bit. I have a hard time believing this company will pass a certain stage. Its revenue will dwindle and people on facebook will find the free service a thing of the past.

They have no revenue model that's growing or sustaining.
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by therealgeeves December 7, 2008 2:24 PM PST
As with all central systems, it will be a disaster when the data is released into the wild - by none other than a person from within facebook - this has only happened a few times in UK - searh for this:

"HM Revenue and Customs has lost computer discs containing the entire child benefit records, including the personal details of 25 million people"

Do you trust a central system with your entire life info + your friends...?
paranoia, yes but it pays to be careful.
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by Harrison912 December 8, 2008 10:04 AM PST
Thanks, Rafe, for this information. I'm on FaceBook mainly to socially market my safety and security web site as well as raise awareness for it's products. Although I don't require a log in to purchase right now, I may at some time in the future so this is good to know.
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by kingjames128 December 10, 2008 10:25 PM PST
I'm running FB Connect on my site!

Comments can be published to News Feed. We have community features (i.e. view FB friends on the site) but they're a little buggy. The link is:

http://www.RantBlogger.com
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