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October 14, 2008 10:31 AM PDT

Lenovo and UPS: A problematic pairing

by Michael Horowitz
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Twice this year I ordered a computer directly from Lenovo and they shipped it via UPS. Both shipments got screwed up.

Back in January I wrote about how UPS lost my computer. That machine, a desktop, was supposedly delivered to the wrong address. Lenovo built and sent a replacement computer and a few days after the replacement computer arrived, and roughly a month after the first one was shipped, the first machine magically showed up.

On October 8th Lenovo shipped me a new S10 Netbook (see The Lenovo S10 Netbook is here, count me in. On the 9th, I checked the delivery status with UPS only to find that the tracking number didn't exist.

The next day, when the UPS tracking number still wasn't in the system, I called Lenovo. They couldn't explain what happened and queued my query to another group with a promise to call back in a couple days.

By the 13th, UPS knew about package.

My package "experienced an exception". The address label was missing or illegible. That's a first for me.

Lenovo called on the 13th to say that the package had no label and they would have a new estimated delivery date tomorrow.
Update: The computer arrived before the new delivery date estimate.

Making a poor situation worse was that three out of the four times I spoke to someone from Lenovo on the telephone, I couldn't hear the person due to background noise as loud as Fenway Park in the World Series. That, combined with the accents of the Lenovo employees, meant that every sentence had to be repeated.

Of course, you can also communicate with Lenovo by email, except that an email about this wasn't responded to for 3.5 days.

UPS seems to be the only shipper used by Lenovo.

Update October 20, 2008. This did not end well.

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January 17, 2008 2:52 PM PST

UPS lost my computer

by Michael Horowitz
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UPS delivered a new Lenovo computer yesterday. It was supposed to go to my wife, but no such luck.

We live in an apartment building that has been accepting UPS packages for over 30 years. The system is pretty well grooved in by now. So it was quite unusual for a package to be missing, seven hours after the UPS website said it was delivered. Also strange was the name of the person who signed for the package; it wasn't anyone who works in our building.

Last night, my wife called UPS and was told the computer was not delivered to our building at all. Instead of being delivered to 8 East 8th Street (the addresses are fictional but illustrative), it went to 777 East 77th Street. You have to call UPS to learn the actual delivery address because the website tracking says only that the package was delivered, it doesn't say where.

But is the computer really at 777 East 77th Street? As I write this, it has been about 20 hours since the first of multiple phone calls to UPS. No one there knows exactly what happened to the package. Their first reaction was to trace the package, a process that takes a week. A week, as if it were 1977 again.

Needless to say, Lenovo was contacted too. You might think they could lean on UPS to get a straight answer. So far, multiple contacts with Lenovo have produced nothing.

Looks like we have to wait all over again for Lenovo to build and ship a new computer, a process that took ten days the first time around (four to build, six to ship). But that process can't start until Lenovo or UPS declares the first machine missing in action and we don't yet know when that will happen.

With all their many computer systems, how can UPS lose a package? Was it stolen or sold rather than lost? Can UPS ever make a final determination about what happened? Is there a Bermuda triangle in New York City? We'll see. Watch this space.

Who really gets screwed here? That is, if the computer never turns up, who is out the cost of the machine? Lenovo? UPS? One of their insurance companies? If you know, please leave a comment below. Thanks.

Over the years, my wife and I have had many computers delivered to us. This was the first time anything went wrong. If something like this has happened to you, please leave a comment below.

Defensive computing even extends this request to the shipping company.

Update. January 18, 2008. After dealing with UPS for a day or so, and getting nowhere, Lenovo agreed to build and ship a second computer.

Update. February 15, 2008. The replacement computer showed up today. Finally. The majority of the delay was on Lenovo's end rather than from UPS. For whatever reason it took Lenovo a much longer time to build the second machine than the first one. Both were made and mailed from Mexico. If I had to do it again, I would cancel the original order, make sure the credit card company didn't bill me for it and place a new order - one unrelated to the original order. That would have saved about three weeks. Neither Lenovo or UPS ever got back to us about what happened to the original computer.

Update. February 20, 2008. The original computer showed up today. I refused delivery.

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Michael Horowitz is an independent computer consultant and the author of several classes on Defensive Computing. He views Defensive Computing as taking steps, when things are running well, to avoid or minimize the inevitable problems down the road. It's about educating yourself to the level where you can make your own intelligent decisions about keeping your computers and data happy and healthy. If you depend on computers, yet are on your own, without an IT department or nearby nerd, this blog's for you. His personal web site is michaelhorowitz.com.

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