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February 11, 2009 7:02 AM PST

Can Howard Stern save Sirius XM?

by Steve Guttenberg
(Credit: Steve Guttenberg)

No matter how you look at it, Sirius XM Satellite Radio is in sad shape. The stock has been stuck around 11 cents for months, and now there's talk about bankruptcy.

I don't get it, the satellite company claims 19 million subscribers, and if they were paying the same rate as I do, $12.95 a month, that works out to close to $3 billion a year in income. They also have ads on all the nonmusic channels, which have to be generating income as well. Oh, wouldn't you think the ads on Howard Stern's show make a load of dough for Sirius XM?

I've heard that EchoStar, a maker of TV set-top boxes, is trying to take over the company. but Sirius XM is holding tight.

So if Howard Stern loves Sirius XM so much, why doesn't he buy it? If he can't swing it solo, maybe he could team up with other Sirius XM heavyweights like Oprah and Martha Stewart to keep the satellites afloat.

Stern's fans are a rabid group, and they believe Stern is in large part for the company's "success." Hey, if he's not interested in taking over the debt, maybe he could work for free for the duration of his contract. Relieved of the burden of paying Stern's hefty salary would free up capital and keep the company out of bankruptcy. He's already made hundreds of millions of dollars from Sirius; isn't it time to give something back?

Everyday working stiffs are being forced to accept givebacks and pay cuts to help save the companies they work for. Isn't it time that silly rich stars like Stern do the same? If he refuses to work for free, he could at least show up more often--Stern works four days a week--and gets 10 (!) weeks of vacation a year!

Steve Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to magazines and Web sites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by slaphappy44 February 11, 2009 7:43 AM PST
"Relieved of the burden of paying Stern's hefty salary would free up capital, and keep the company out of bankruptcy. "

What you are forgetting Steve, judging by your bias reporting is that if Howard Stern leaves, a great many people will follow. You see Steve, it was Stern who put Sirius-XM on the map and i don't think they would let him go.

"He's already made hundreds of millions of dollars from Sirius, isn't it time to give something back?"

Give back what Steve? You mean Oprah should give back as well? How about Martha Steward? Hell she could help the company with their finances as well.

"he could at least show up more often--Stern works four days a week--AND gets ten (!) weeks of vacation a year!"

And yet its the most popular show on Sirius-XM.

Great theories Steve ( Yea Right).
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by mexic0 February 11, 2009 10:27 AM PST
slaphappy44, Steve didn't suggest that Howard leave Sirus, he suggests that he help the corporation out by giving up his salary. Stern is paid more than any other star on Sirius, hence the focus on Stern - not only by Steve but by many others. People have speculated from the start that Sirius has made a terrible financial decision with Stern (check out this article from 2006: http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-paid-howard-stern-302-million-in-2006.html). Considering how grateful Stern was to Sirius for liberating him from the FCC's decency standards, let's see how willing he is to help them out now that they are in trouble. He'd be saving his own hide in the process.
by sternisanidiot February 12, 2009 7:48 AM PST
Wow, all you Stern fans are IDIOTS! The guy is the worlds biggest A$$ and biggest IDIOT. So Stern should go away. NO station in todays financial climate will pay this jerk a dime. All the media outlets laughed at his salary when he signed and now that SiriusXM is ready to die, do you really think ANYONE would pay his salary now? Get a life...I love my SiriusXM radio but damn if I'll EVER listen to this idiot!!! He's a joke and, again, all who listen to him are small minded uneducated worthless people who drain society!!!
by lazygrimes August 7, 2009 1:06 PM PDT
I think everyone knows why stern go so much money from this company, daa. Look who own's the company. First of all, hardly anyone listens to that nut. I have only meet one person that listens to him. They lost big money on him, but they are just making their buds richer. This was an inside job, and the hell the shareholders.
by burtonjunky February 11, 2009 7:51 AM PST
I agree with you Steve.
While I'm not a subscriber, I want Sirius-XM to live on. The reason I'm not a subscriber is because I'm concerned about their longevity. I don't want to invest in the equipment only to have them go belly-up a few months down the road. I want to subscribe, and will if they ever turn this ship around.
Aside from his ego, I can't imagine why Stern wouldn't want to personally bail out Sirius-XM. I thought he'd been partially compensated in stock. If so, it would be in his own best interest for the company to succeed, as it would mean more money for him. He's got an opportunity to show people that he can do some good, that he cares about something other than himself, and in the process, he could become even more wealthy. I should qualify all of this: It is not Stern's responsibility to bail out this corporation. It's his opportunity.
But Sirius-XM's problems were not solely caused by Stern's enormous paycheck. They were caused by their own management's failure to listen to their subscribers. I'm referring to deteriorating sound quality, elimination of channels people enjoyed, and the addition of commercials to channels that previously had none. They should take a page out of Netflix's book: listen to your customers, give them what they want, and word of mouth will do the rest.
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by eBob1 February 11, 2009 8:49 AM PST
I agree here as well. I currently have a complimentary subscription that I got when I bought my car last September. I enjoy the music stations (not a Stern fan, though). I was just getting ready to go for a one-year subscription when I heard about possible bankruptcy. Look, it is a quality service that I would be willing to pay for, but if it isn't going to be around I need to start looking for alternatives.
by adamguillette February 11, 2009 7:54 AM PST
Steve - go back to the Police Academy movies.

Why should Stern work for free? You suggest that he needs to 'give something back.' This is a nonsensical, juvenile argument.

Sirius hasn't paid him 'hundreds of millions of dollars.' You're alluding to his reported contract of $500 million. First of all, that includes costs for the channels and wasn't simply his salary. Beyond that, a large part of the '$500 million' was paid to him in stock. Since his signing, the stock has obviously declined significantly.

Regardless, he still has likely earned ten's of millions of dollars for Sirius. Why SHOUDN'T he 'give something back?'

Well, perhaps because he's never 'taken' anything. Sirius/XM pays him money for a service. If he performs the service, why should he need to give anything else? Why shouldn't Sirius/XM 'give back' to Howard and double his salary? It follows the same warped logic that you suggest.

Stern single-handedly saved Sirius radio. If not for him, they would've folded and XM would've been the only satellite radio player. Currently he makes a tremendous amount of money for Sirius/XM.

I propose that you 'give back' to C-Net and work for free. Another suggestion would be to 'give back' to the readers and to write better columns.
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by gringcorp February 11, 2009 7:58 AM PST
I think its problem is too much debt, which Sirius used to finance its broadcast infrastructure rather than raising the money from the stock market. Now Echostar owns some of that debt, and it thinks that by calling in that debt, which Sirius doesn't have enough cash on hand to repay, it might be able to take control of the company. Didn't a lot of Stern's paycheck come in the form of stock? He might be hurting along with Sirius plenty....
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by Rick3904 February 12, 2009 8:32 AM PST
I sincerely doubt Howard Stern is "hurting"...
by lochness71 February 11, 2009 8:00 AM PST
It is amazing how the author knows very little about how Howard Stern was compensated and no only saved Sirius but made them get more subscribers than XM. Howard Stern is radio talent, and has no say in the day to day operations of SiriusXM. I think you are asking him to do something financially stupid that you would not do yourself. Also not every subscription brings in 12.95. If you have more than one you can get the next one at 6.95. I have had Sirius since it was launched and before Howard came.
It is not a heavy investment $50 - 199 for equipment (sometimes even free) and a 12.95 for first subscription. I have 2 subscriptions and i am very happen with all the content. Regular radio is intolerable after listening to CD quality music and uncensored content. SiriusXM is not going anywhere it is a great product and it is the future of radio.
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by jsl4980 February 11, 2009 8:02 AM PST
Howard Stern can't save them. This is a job for Fartman!
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by kickenchickengood February 11, 2009 8:17 AM PST
The 12.95 is for the first radio, it's 6.99 after that. Sirius never says how many first radio subscriptions it has. Howard only needed to bring in 650,000 first radio subscriptions or 1.2 million 6.99 subscriptions to pay his 100 million. I think Stern is one of the profitable talents that they have. Looks like Sirius should drop the big O (Oprah) and Martha Stewart.
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by ddhboy February 11, 2009 8:32 AM PST
The problem with Howard Stern is his erratic schedule, not working on Fridays and getting like 4 months of vacation, as for if he can save them, hell no. Howard was Sirius's big pull to get people to get satellite and that move failed when people couldn't justify the cost of buying the service. Now that we're in the recession, there certainly isn't a draw for the programming SiriusXM has to offer. In fact, its turning out to be quite the apocolypse since there is a pretty huge downtrend on subscribers on both sides of the company. Hell, the stock really should have been delisted by now, since its sitting about about 6 cents a share.

SiriusXM is dead months after it came together, and by next week it will have a new owner in the form of its debtor Dish, or it will file for bankruptcy and go out of business.
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by CDubber February 11, 2009 8:48 AM PST
Satellite radio is dead. Dead. It just doesn't know it yet.

Try Slacker Radio/Pandora/Last.fm/etc. on your iPhone or Blackberry and meet SiriusXM's gravediggers.

I listen to Slacker Radio everywhere I go - working, driving in the car - on my iPhone. And I've bought a ton of music on iTunes that I've discovered on Slacker.
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by scaught78 February 11, 2009 8:57 AM PST
I don't see Pandora and/or Slacker as the nail in sattelite radio's coffin because sattelite radio is all about broadcasting, not just streaming random songs based on soulless algorithms.

On Sirius I get to hear DJs......you know, live humans. I get to hear special in studio performances (the Sirius XMU station has the best in studio performances around). I get to hear music acts host their own shows (Kings of Leon hosted a solid week in the mornings). I get to hear bands take over stations for long periods (REM took over the Spectrum station for an entire weekend). I get to hear talk radio from around the country (AND parts of the world). And when I am stuck in traffic, I even get to hear a nice traffic report for my area (which I could never seem to find on regular radio, I would always just miss it). That is far better than Pandora which plays Fall Out Boy because I like Vampire Weekend. Thanks?
by BigStarryEyes February 11, 2009 3:05 PM PST
I can't agree with this comment either. Sirius XM is still radio, not simply a streaming music service. I usually listen to the talk radio sector (not Howard Stern - never listened to him ... but I think many Stern fanboi types here are rude) but came to satellite radio in the first place for Little Steven's Underground Garage. Sat radio delivers so much more than streaming online radio (and I'm an iphone owner ...don't get me wrong, I do like streaming sites). I love when I have to be in my car on a fall Saturday to be able to listen to tons of out-of-market college FB games.
by TechSeattle February 11, 2009 9:03 AM PST
The problem is not Howard Stern's salary. He brought in way more subscribers than his salary. Sirius only had 650,000 subscribers when he started. He brought along around 8 million subscribers. This is worth about 1,345,000,000 per year in subscriptions. He gets roughly 10 percent of the revenue from his show. The real mess is XM signing up expensive celebs that do not bring new customers.

I am a loyal Sirius listener. Satelite radio is like early cable. It is cheap, and gives you everything for one price. I do not understand why Microsoft does not swallow up Sirius. You can now listen to 65 channels of commercial free music on any web enabled phone. Microsoft could have setup a player on any cell phone. This could squash the IPOD. Why download, or upload music from your CDROMs when you can just pick a genre and listen to endless music for one subscription price?

I only use an Ipod Nano for running. I hate loading my CDs and figuring out what to put on the thing. Satelite lets you pick a channel and they have DJs on most channels that only announe the song. No commericals!

I signed up for Sirius to keep laughing at Howard Stern, but if he was gone, I would continue for the commercial free music channels. I also like the talk channels like OutQ, even with the commercials.

Buying Sirius out-right for 270 million is a joke. That does not fix the high price they are paying for NFL and NBA and NHL. I wonder if they dumped Oprah, Martha Stewart and sports after chapter 11 bankruptcy, could they make a profit? I question how many people listen to those channels.

Satelite radio is still not included in Arbritron ratings yet. Broadcast radio is falling apart. Soon every person will have tried satelite radio, as all new cars come with satelite radio. It will seem ridiculous to go back to FM and AM after you have so many choices. Few people switch from cable to broadcast TV after they start on cable.

Tech in Seattle
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by SiriusXMsubscriber February 11, 2009 3:03 PM PST
Very funny Tech in Seattle. "The problem is not Howard Stern's salary. He brought in way more subscribers than his salary. Sirius only had 650,000 subscribers when he started. He brought along around 8 million subscribers." I subscribed to Sirius after Howard Stern was hired, but I did it because I bought a new car with Sirius built in, I did not and would not subscribe to Sirius for Howard Stern. So to assume that all 8 million subscribers that came on afterwards was solely for Howard Stern is laughable. I guess thats 8 million subscribers minus one, LOL.
by Grumpypaul February 11, 2009 10:27 AM PST
I wonder how much Stern actually "brought" in vs how many were evolutionary changes and would have switched anyway. His cost, and the exorbitant costs of sports events have been bantered around ad nauseum. The real financial issues are that the start up costs are difficult to amortize at $12 per month per subscriber when there are daily operating expenses that eat away at that number as well. Cable TV didn't have satellites to expense from the onset and they were charging around $6-8 per month IIRC back in the 70's when it started getting big. Satellite radio has a much steeper hill to climb. The filing could help level the playing field a bit. And if they can be absolved from their contracts with everyone, they COULD draw a line in the sand and offer $XXX, period. If the "celebs" don't like it, then they can go back to AM radio where some of them should be anyway. I don't really think that Stern or Martha, or Opie and Dopie being "in space" or not will make that much difference to the bottom lines, not when there's a $5 Billion debt to work around.
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by ScottProdigy February 11, 2009 11:24 AM PST
Don't forget that Dish and DirecTV have Sirius/XM stations as broadcast channels, so they must get revenue from that as well.
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by msaltz February 11, 2009 11:29 AM PST
I, for one, did not subscribe to Sirius so that I could listen to Howard Sterm. In fact, I didn't subscribe to Sirius but to XM. Admittedly, I now have "The Best of Sirius" too but I haven't listened to Stern yet and don't have much interest in doing so.

I don't know for sure what their real problems are, although having more satellites than they need is surely one of them. Another big problem must be the problems of the auto industry, which has been a significant source of revenue for them and the gaining of new subscribers. It is unfortunate that the timing of the merger and the auto collapse were so close.

Regardless, I hope it survives. I really enjoy it, particularly since I drive several hundred miles every week.
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by soundman45 February 11, 2009 11:30 AM PST
Sirius financial problems are alot larger than Howard Stern. Unfortunately it's going to take more than he is worth to save the company.
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by bigbobbiggins February 11, 2009 1:47 PM PST
I was a subscriber to Sirius since 2004. I did so so I could listen to Howard when he switched over. I know I did the switch early, but I wanted to try it before the hyped rush for units. Over all I was happy with the satellite radio. When Howard did arrive I became slowly disappointed. First the show didn't seem any funnier since they had the freedom and more people were other than Howard doing the funny stuff and Robin was more boring than ever. Pretty much the only thing Howard did after the switch was hang up on listeners, especially if they had a different opinion than his. Anyone who wasn't 100% on board with him or revealed their sex life was promoted as an "ass" or his audience was programmed to boycott them.
In the beginning he was live on air 5 days a week, but then that changed quickly. He dropped to 4 days and the vacations became ridicules. He had the nerve to talk bad about Oprah for only working one day a month. I really hated listening to the reruns of the show and it seemed like the reruns were the only thing on.
He ripped on XM satellite all the time until they became his boss, then he never said anything bad after. So it proved he was a hippocrate.
Both my wife and I like Artie until he started disappearing from the show. I really hope it wasn't a ploy to give the mystery because I think it will hurt Artie in any future venture in show business.
Well Howard made his millions from us "Suckers" who followed him. I from one did not renew my subscription to Sirius last year because of the short work week, only 4 hours a day and 10 weeks vacation. Most people have to work 40 hours a week 50 weeks a year only to just get by. Howard and crew work 16 hours a week 42 weeks a year and make millions.
One thing I forgot to mention is when Howard was first promoting the switch, he promoted commercial free listening, but that wasn't the case for his show. His show was filled with commercial so minus the commercial time during the show, they may have worked only 3 hours a day.
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by slaphappy44 February 11, 2009 3:33 PM PST
"When Howard did arrive I became slowly disappointed. First the show didn't seem any funnier since they had the freedom and more people were other than Howard doing the funny stuff and Robin was more boring than ever. "

Sounds like a personal problem.

"He ripped on XM satellite all the time until they became his boss, then he never said anything bad"
after."

Why would he rip into them if they are part of the same company?

"He had the nerve to talk bad about Oprah for only working one day a month. I really hated listening to the reruns of the show and it seemed like the reruns were the only thing on."

He works four days a week for about five hours a day and give his show and original programing on his channel, if you have a problem with that, then you were never a fan to begin with.

"Well Howard made his millions from us "Suckers" who followed him."

The only sucker i see here is you for trying to pin what ever problems you have on Howard. If you have problems with the show, then you can leave and the people who still enjoy it will continue to do so.

"One thing I forgot to mention is when Howard was first promoting the switch, he promoted commercial free listening, but that wasn't the case for his show."

He never said that he show was comercial free, only the music.
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by Cybertelecm February 12, 2009 8:35 AM PST
There are 19 m subs to Sat Radio. Is that the stat cited? Of the 19 m, how many listen to Howard (or Oprah). What fraction of revenue is attributed to them. I think Sat Radio is going to find - probably already knows - that the superstar DJs are dead weight. Going into bankruptcy is probably the best thing from Sat Radio because they can shed that weight and lose those contracts. Only the smallest fraction of people subscribe to sat radio so they can hear howard - and that is not worth his salary.
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by NYCgoalie February 12, 2009 9:38 AM PST
Something tells me the "19 million" subscriber base is an inflated number. I've yet to meet anyone who owns an XM receiver. My brother in-law is a manager at Radio Shack, and he's told me that if he sells two XM receivers a month, it's a lot. That's the reason I never bought the stock (good thing too, I would have lost my shirt).

Also, the audio sounds like crap. A lot of people are switching to HD-radio car receivers because you get more music channels with decent sounds and it's FREE!

I do listen occassionaly to the channels offered by DirecTV. But since the merger, they've since cut off Opie and Anthony; so I listen far less.

I wouldn't blame Howard that much. But it is true that his contract is wayyyyyyyyy out of whack considering the company is in massive debt. That needs to change and quick, or he'll be forced to retire (I don't see him comming back to regular radio).
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by NYCgoalie February 12, 2009 9:43 AM PST
I wouldn't be surpised if "SlapHappy44" was actually Howard writting in.

He sounds way to defensive to be just an average poster.

If that's the case...Howard, you were great when you were free. You're not so great at $11.99 a month. But that's ok, you're show is readily available over the inernet (via BitTorrent) anyway.
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by Mrwirez February 12, 2009 3:42 PM PST
Stern IS SIRIUS... If he goes, I will be going with about 7 million other subscribers.
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Ex movie theater projectionist Steve Guttenberg has more or less successfully hitched his future to home theater, but he still pines for the clickity-clack of 35 MM projectors and all the stale popcorn he could eat. Between projectionist gigs he worked as a high-end audio salesman for sixteen years, and produced records for an audiophile label. Oh, and one more thing, nothing annoys Steve more than being confused with the other Steve Guttenberg, the washed-up Police Academy actor. The wordsmith Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to a number of magazines and websites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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