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July 29, 2009 10:39 PM PDT

Apple and CES? Don't bet on it

by Michelle Meyers
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Update, July 30, 10:28 a.m. PDT: The Wall Street Journal has now added a correction to its story: "Correction: It is not clear whether Apple will attend the 2010 Consumer Electronics Show. This post previously stated that Apple would attend."

We've heard lots of speculation about the possibility of Apple attending the massive CES trade show in January, but The Wall Street Journal is reporting straight out that Apple plans to attend.

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CES is devoting more floorspace to Apple this year. But will Apple attend? The Wall Street Journal is saying it will.

(Credit: Tom Krazit/CNET)

If true, this would seem a bit of a schizophrenic move. After all, Apple explained its decision to leave Macworld (which takes place around the same time as CES) by saying that it doesn't need trade shows anymore to get its message across, given its network of retail stores.

We've attempted to reach Apple for confirmation, even given the late hour, but haven't yet received a response.

Although the Journal blog post references a dinner with journalists and Gary Shapiro, who heads the organization that puts on CES in Las Vegas, it doesn't attribute Apple's move to Shapiro. "Apple plans to attend the show's 2010 version, marking the first time in memory the Cupertino, Calif., consumer-electronics giant will be there," the post reads.

And it goes on to talk about how Shapiro, chief executive of the Consumer Electronics Association, has invited Apple CEO Steve Jobs to give a keynote address at the show. "But nobody from Apple has gotten back to him," the Journal post says, citing Shapiro.

Meanwhile, while other bloggers have followed the Journal piece, Engadget's Ryan Block, who says he was at the same dinner with Shapiro, is challenging the report's accuracy. "At no point did Gary even remotely imply that Apple would be present at a future CES." That sentiment was echoed by Engadget founder Peter Rojas in a comment posted to the Journal story, addressing its author, Ben Charny. Shapiro "was very clear that Apple would not be exhibiting at CES 2010," wrote Rojas, who was also at the dinner with Shapiro. "I'm frankly a little shocked that anyone could have come out of the dinner with a post like this."

CNET Editor in Chief Scott Ard, who also was at the dinner, concurred that Shapiro didn't say anything that could be construed as definitive about Apple and CES 2010. He also noted that the Wall Street Journal story didn't attribute possible attendance by Apple to Shapiro.

"Shapiro didn't say anything at the dinner that could be taken as confirmation that Apple would attend," Ard said. "And it's hardly news that Jobs did not return an invite request."

Ard continued: "Ironically, much of the conversation Tuesday revolved around three topics: Apple's plans, CES 2010, and accuracy in journalism. We'll see how this story shakes out--at this point the Journal's post is hard to evaluate because it does not have any sourcing regarding Apple's supposed attendance."

"The good news in all this," Ard said, "is that Apple will likely have to declare one way or the other what its plans are very soon."

What we do know, however, is that with or without Apple, CES is planning to expand its Apple section from 4,000 square feet to 25,000 square feet. The venue will be called the iLounge Pavilion.

Anyone else having trouble envisioning Jobs in a Vegas lounge, albeit one that starts with the letter i?

This post was updated at 11:28 p.m. PDT with comments from Peter Rojas. It was updated again at 7:04 a.m. PDT on Thursday with comments from CNET's Scott Ard.

December 17, 2008 1:31 PM PST

Without Jobs, will the faithful make Macworld pilgrimage?

by Erica Ogg
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Does Macworld still matter?
With no Steve Jobs keynote, will you still go to Macworld?

Yes, but this will be my last year
Yes, I'll continue to go
No, I'm done with Macworld



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The yearly Macworld Expo is a place for Apple fans to get their hands on new products, hobnob with like-minded Mac fans--and to see chief executive Steve Jobs in the flesh.

The question is whether the largely local attendee base will still be compelled to attend after Apple's announcement Tuesday that Jobs won't deliver the next Macworld keynote speech and that this will be its final year of participating in the event at all. The Macworld Expo doesn't have a huge economic impact on the city of San Francisco. (It's attended mostly by local people, so the city's Conventions and Tourism Bureau can't track it by hotel rooms booked the way they do for other conferences.)

IDG, which puts on the expo every year, says that this year's registrations are expected to match last year's total if current trends continue. Last year's attendance ended up at around 47,000 people. A large part of that number is made up by last-minute registrations, and with two and a half weeks to go before the curtain raises on the event, there's still plenty of time for people to register. IDG has also already committed to putting on Macworld 2010 in San Francisco, even without Apple.

But without Apple's presence after this year, and without Jobs, there seems to be considerably less of a draw--even for the Mac faithful who normally attend.

Mike Leeds, a Mac technician at a Portland, Ore., college said he doesn't think the trip is worth making anymore.

"Living in Portland means I go for professional reasons (which means I get reimbursed for time and mileage). I don't see how I could justify it without Apple's presence," he said. "Apple certainly brings the critical mass for it to survive, but Adobe and the other software houses are needed to make it flourish. It's been ailing for a few years now, and Apple finally put it out of its misery."

On a MacRumors.com discussion board, "SFStateStudent" expressed what seemed to be a common feeling: "The thing I like about MWSF (Macworld San Francisco) is the opportunity to do 'the hands-on' thing with everything Mac and the other vendors' wares. I enjoy picking up new software, a new portable hard drive, a new laptrap or a new case for my iPhone. Oh well, I'll enjoy Apple's last MWSF '09... :("

Others are sticking to their plans to attend, but may reconsider the arduous line-waiting tradition. Wrote commenter Mike Cohen on MacworldBound.com, "I'm staying...about a block from Moscone (Center), so I'll be going straight there instead of to the Apple Store meetup. Unlike last year, I'm not getting up at 4 AM to stand in line."

What about you? Will this affect your travel plans to Macworld this year or next?

CNET News' Daniel Terdiman contributed to this report.

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