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March 3, 2009 5:40 AM PST

Apple finally refreshes Mac Mini with updated specs

by Rich Brown
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Looks like the rumors were true. This morning Apple updated both the iMac and the Mac Mini. The Mac Mini in particular was long overdue for a refresh, having relied on the same specs since August 2007.

The new Mac Mini has the same chassis design, despite rumors of an overhaul.

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The updated Mac Mini has new default configurations, although the prices remain the same, at $599 for the low-end model and $799 for the step-up version. The $599 system gets a new 2GHz Core 2 Duo processor, the same 1GB of RAM, and a larger 120GB hard drive. The $799 model also retains its 2GB of RAM and the same 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo chip, but with a larger 320GB hard drive.

An Nvidia MCP79 chipset drives both new Mac Minis, in line with the MacBook Pro which came out with Nvidia circuitry just a few weeks ago, but minus the second 9600M GPU. That means each Mac Mini has an Nvidia GeForce 9400M graphics chip driving its display, which improves the Mac Mini's outlook for video and photo editing and to a certain extent gaming. We found the MacBook Pro with the 9400M chip was at capable of at least playable frame rates in Quake IV.

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With the specs also come new ports on the rear of the Mac Mini, and you get the same inputs and outputs at either price level. That means five USB 2.0 ports, Gigabit Ethernet, and upgrades to FireWire 800 as well as Mini DVI and Mini DisplayPort for monitor connections. Mini DisplayPort is for now only a feature of Apple systems and monitors, but that could grow as Apple has also offered the spec to VESA for incorporation into its official DisplayPort standard.

We don't have a Mac Mini on hand to test (yet), but we have a few questions regarding its bang for the buck. Comparing raw hardware with the $480 Vista-based Acer Aspire X1700, the Mac comes up short on core processor clock speed (2.4GHz vs. 2.0GHz), RAM allotment (4GB vs. 1GB), and especially hard-drive size (640GB vs. 120GB). The Acer lacks the Mac Mini's wireless networking, and Bluetooth, but instead of DisplayPort and FireWire 800 it gets you HDMI and eSATA jacks--essentially a wash, if not an outright Acer win for eSATA's faster data throughput.

We'd agree that the Mac Mini has a more pleasing design than any of its Windows competitors, and you may prefer Apple's OS X to Vista, in which case your decision is already made. We're less sure about the new Mac Mini's value proposition, which was a challenge for earlier models. Hopefully we can run one through the lab soon.

Rich Brown reviews desktops and various other components and peripherals for CNET. E-mail Rich.
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by gigo1000 March 3, 2009 6:22 AM PST
If you really need a faster hard drive then you probably need a different computer. The Mac Mini is a good deal for what it offers as a hardware/software package.
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by pjhenry1216 March 3, 2009 8:26 AM PST
I don't think the hard drive speed was in question as much as its storage capacity.
by gigo1000 March 3, 2009 10:13 AM PST
Comparing the Acer and Mac Mini Mr. Brown states they are essentially equal, "essentially a wash", "if not an outright win for eSATA's faster data throughput."

I didn't raise the question of drive speed, Mr. Brown did.

Mac Minis are entry level machines. They were not developed to compete with any other computer in the Mac lineup. I repeat, if you need faster drive speed, more hard drive capacity or faster graphics then look at a Mac Pro. For general usage I think the Apple Mac Mini hits a sweet spot.
by pithenumber March 3, 2009 3:16 PM PST
@gigo1000
whoa 120gigabytes!?!
even dirt cheap netbooks have 160 gb hard drives
by Nik_I March 3, 2009 6:40 AM PST
starting at $729 CDN???? wow what a ripoff. i'm sorry apple but for that kind of money i could get a far better system that would also come with a screen, keyboard and mouse.
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by charles0804 March 4, 2009 12:40 PM PST
it's over $800 w/tx.. but I have no choice.. I have a monitor and my old ppc 1.8 finally died with a logic board issue. Those computers still sell for about $600 locally.

I have a music studio, I need firewire, games not an issue. HD space not really an issue.. just need a new version of OSX a good reliable computer faster than my last one.

What is a bit of a **** off, I don't mind buying the base model but make it easier to open to swap out the ram at a later date. I stopped by the apple store and they don't yet have them in stock, waiting...
by michaelthegeek March 3, 2009 6:47 AM PST
lots of usb drives lol
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by seven7dust March 3, 2009 6:48 AM PST
1 GB on OSX is more than enough for a Mac mini type of device
this is not a bloated O.S remember
blame MS for their obsession of creating bloatware !

although I agree the hardrive could be a bit bigger
120 GB is yesterdays Hd size but with my Segate 1 TB drive
it should suffice !
and eSATA is overated ! who needs it ?
with wireless HDs like the Time capsule out on the market
usb and wi-fi r more than enough for me !

dual display was a pleasant surprise, perfect for my HTPC needs !
and 9400M is perfect for starcraft/starcraft 2 the only game I play !
looks all this waiting has finally paid off ! phew

but not bundling the remote is a new low by Apple !
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by rapier1 March 3, 2009 7:38 AM PST
1GB is just plenty as long as you don't plan on doing to much with it (like the above commenter). My MBP has 2GB and it spends far too much time swapping - especially when safari starts rutting my memory like a pig. Hopefully snow leopard will address these issues.
by seven7dust March 3, 2009 8:11 AM PST
well I have a custom built PC for my more demanding needs
this is more like a 2nd machine for media purposes !
and I GB should be fine for safari, itunes and vlc and of-course starcraft !
if you can find me a better machine with similar dimensions
I'll be more than glad to take a look !
by habros March 3, 2009 6:22 PM PST
seven7dust, I guess you haven't seen AOpen XC mini (MP45-BDR). Same form factor but way more capable and cheaper!
by seven7dust March 4, 2009 4:52 AM PST
@habros
yes nice machine but I'm not looking more ram and HD space
the mini's specs r more than enough for me
plus the mini has nvidia graphics
but wat I get with the mini is the ability to run OSX and Windows
iLife bundled and Apple build quality and reliability
and last but not least a Nice re-sale value too
I'm sorry but I'm not penny wise ,pound foolish
so I choose the Mac mini every time
by habros March 4, 2009 8:37 AM PST
seven7dust, sorry, I must have misunderstood when said "if you can find me a better machine with similar dimensions...". If you only want to compare apples to apples, I guess Apple mini is as good as it gets.
by Maarek Stele March 3, 2009 7:00 AM PST
Can I upgrade this myself or do I have to have the Apple store do it. I can't, than I'll buy a PC. What's the point of spending 3x the price on a PC if it's going to crash on me anyways.
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by seven7dust March 3, 2009 7:13 AM PST
yes you can ! but it's not that straight forward ! be warned
do a google or youtube search for instructions
by ddhboy March 3, 2009 8:29 AM PST
You can, but it voids your warranty. For the most part, the only thing that your allowed to replace without voiding your warranty on a mac is the RAM, the exception being the Mac Pros.
by LinuxRules March 3, 2009 7:13 AM PST
Looks like apple is lagging, I would never pay the $799 because it is bogus, you can now get an 1Tb drive for a hunderd bucks. Up the ram apple! Skip the mini dp, I will never use it for the over priced apple displays. I bought my first apple, a imac and it did not even include usb 2 ports, what is up with that, and even though it had a seperate bluetooth card, it was not even updateable because it is an apple design of coarse, go figure. The golden view is getting tarnish in my eyes.
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by YankeePoodle March 3, 2009 7:28 AM PST
For all the people who will not buy an Apple but throw the Apple brand under the bus whenever a new hardware is released, just get over yourself. The form factor of this device is amazing and it comes with lot of bells and whistles of OS X and accompanying software. The question is, is it for you? may be or may be not. If like small form factor devices and have existing Keyboard & Monitor (with your current system) and have the willingness to try OS X this is for you (as cheap as it gets) else there are many cheap dell machines or white boxes you can build and boot it with your favorite OS windows or linux or BSD. The point here is a good amount of money of this machine goes to the form factor and if that is not something you are willing to pay for, look else where.
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by TornadoRed March 3, 2009 8:00 AM PST
I must agree with you, Yankee Poodle. The Mac Mini does not pretend to be the ultimate machine for every user -- but it is the perfect machine for 80% of households. And for most of them, the $599 model is entirely satisfactory.

When the user's needs exceed the capabilities of a Mini, then there are other Macintoshes with more power.

Our household has one Mac Mini running OS 10.5 and one G5 running 10.4. So we won't need to upgrade for another couple years. There are no PCs running Windows Vista and we have no plans to acquire any Windows machines.
by gigo1000 March 3, 2009 8:12 AM PST
On the other hand, using Xgrid in OSX you could probably hook a bunch of Mac Minis together and make a relatively inexpensive distributed processing super computer.
by TX-Toast March 3, 2009 7:43 AM PST
$799 what a joke, time to short appl. These guys know nothing. A 320GB hard drive, no HDMI, 5 USBs are they crazy? I have been looking to buy an apple box for the house and was hoping that this would be it. The small form factor would be perfect to fit in the media cabinet and run on a HDTV. Are they that behind or are they just that greedy that I can?t just hook this up with one simple cable and be done with it. Don?t tell me it?s because of space confederations there. What do people need five UBS?s for? Let me think, 3 iPods and a mouse and keyboard?, Looks like I am going to wait for the Nvidia ion or just pick up one of dells studio PCs. Just one more apple product that misses the mark for people that are not fanboys.
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by seven7dust March 3, 2009 8:19 AM PST
a Mini-DVi to HDMi adapter is only 9$ ! I don't see the big fuss
cause HDMI audio in Pcs doesn't seem to work half the time
atleast from wat I've seen !
the reason they use mini-dvi is because it was developed by Apple themselves
and it's also being licensed free to others !
by ddhboy March 3, 2009 8:35 AM PST
@seven7dust, Apple didn't develop mini. In fact, Dell was using it a while before apple was but they dropped it because no one was buying the format. Apple is just using Mini because they're to cheap to pay for the licensing for DVI/HDMI anymore, which, incidentally, is the reason why we still don't have Blu-Ray Support for OSX. Apple sort of hopes that MiniDisplay will be a revolution, but it wont, since at this point it makes no sense to have two different formats between TVs and computer monitors since they're made of the same hardware now.
by seven7dust March 3, 2009 8:57 AM PST
sorry I meant Mini-display
I guess I heard wrong
either way mini-display or hdmi both r practiacally the same with adaptors
HDMI audio in Pcs doesn't work all that well n e way
infact with mini-display you can drive higher resolutions
also the dual display option is a nice addition !
by cosuna March 3, 2009 8:41 AM PST
Just remember that this is a Core 2 Duo system, and Acer/Dell are Pentium Dual Core (same old pentium 4 with two pasted cores, no VT support and cranky 64-bit support). I agree with you on the HD and the eSATA, but a 2GHz Core 2 Duo matches and exceeds a Pentium Dual Core. As for the RAM, Dells, Acers and HP have had to "bite-the-bullet" and offer 4Gb since Vista won't work right with anything less. It'll be good if you "felt" the difference, but a 1Gb Mac OS X beats a 4 Gb Vista machine in almost all the specs. Can't say that of XP and Linux, which both fly in 4 Gb.
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by pithenumber March 3, 2009 3:24 PM PST
no, you are thinking about the Pentium D

the Pentium DC's are budget core 2 Duos
by wapitta1 March 3, 2009 8:57 AM PST
I'm ageing, about to retire and trade down to a smaller duplex. Also, my eyesight isn't what it used to be, and I like/need my current 24" screen. Furthermoer - I'm not into all the IT stuff.
I like Apple's style and minmalism. In my retirement I want (some background music) to fool around with photos, videos and photoshop. Would the macmini plus one of their 30" displays be the toy I'm looking for?
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by seven7dust March 3, 2009 9:48 AM PST
yes my macbook has similar specs and runs HD videos just fine
so the mini graphics r plenty powerful IMO
as far as displays go thats another story
I haven't had much experience with Apple displays ,they r a bit pricier too !
but your old display will work just fine and n e other third party display too !
by hermantf March 3, 2009 10:27 AM PST
Possibly.

Here's the math:

Mac Mini maxed out (4 gigs ram, 2.26 processor, 320 gig HD at 5400 rpms, no keyboard, no mouse) is $800.00.

24" iMac entry level (4 gigs ram, 2.66 processor, 640 gig HD at 7200 rpms, a 24" display, keyboard and mouse included) is $1500.00. (Subtract $125.00 if you go with a similarly configured 20" iMac. This choice doesn't make sense to me because the extra 4" is a 30% increase in monitor size. That extra size is totally worth $125.00!)

In your case, since you already have a 24" monitor, the Mac Mini should be a serious consideration.

But, you get a lot more bang for your buck with a 24" iMac. You could still use your current 24" display with it and have a HUGE amount of monitor real estate (Two 24" monitors??? NICE!).

Also, I like the faster hard drive on the iMacs. The Mini's HD rpms are 5400. The iMac is 7200. This means that the Mini will feel more like a traditional (not top of the line) laptop.

You also mention Photoshop. Photoshop will probably run significantly better on an iMac. Especially if you DON'T max out the Mac Mini.
by FourLivesRemaining March 19, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
If you want a computer that you will be able to use for a long time, I would recommend the iMac over the Mini as well. (Or a Mac Pro if you have the room and don't mind the fan noise.) I am typing this from my 1999 iMac that I have been using all these years. It is a great computer, and has served me well. It is not my only computer. I have a newer iMac with almost three times the processor that sits with a dust cover on it. There have been eleven Macs in my home over the years and they are normally reliable; out of the eleven only three ever bit the dust.

I have some advice for you about what to consider when picking your Mac, if you intend to use it as long as I've used this one. Get the one you enjoy using, and it will become almost like a friend over the years. Whichever one that is, get the best one they offer. You will appreciate having the features and better specs, as today's fast machine will be considered slow in the future. (I say considered, because I don't notice that much of a difference most of the time, in fact my G3 iMac boots Tiger faster than the G4 with the dust cover.) If you don't plan on buying a new version of Photoshop regularly, be cautious about upgrading the OS. I have Photoshop for OS 9, and can't use it since I upgraded to OS X. It is an expensive program, and make sure you want to buy a new copy before you upgrade the system. You can always buy a new cheapie computer to go online if your OS is old- cheaper than upgrading Photoshop. When I upgraded my firmware to have the ability to use OS X, my graphics were affected. Colors don't look nearly as clear as they used to, that will matter for Photoshop. Finally, whatever Mac you go with, keep it in a cool place. Get a stand to allow airflow or keep a little fan handy and aim it on the case when it gets hot. The all in one design of the iMacs and the compact body of the Mini means that it's tight in there. My computer has no fan whatsoever, so it's is pleasantly quiet. Heat shortens the life span of Macs, I've seen it myself. (I've never owned a Windows machine, but I would imagine that the tornado sound of the fans means they keep themselves cooler than my iMac.) The Mini is small, but the iMac's all in one design means it takes up less space. Hope you find the Mac of your dreams; they are worth every penny.
by Moonbuggy1 March 3, 2009 9:14 AM PST
I agree with TomadoRed. I bought a Mini last July just to try out Mac OS X, and to see if there really was a difference b/w Apple and my Dell. And, I was on a short budget at the time, so I couldn't step up to an iMac or Macbook. I was so impressed with the Mini, and Leopard, its ease of use and its stability, that I bought three more Macs for my business a few months later and handed the Mini over to my wife so she could check e-mails and surf the web. The Mini really is the "gateway drug"...I mean gateway computer that gets you interested in Apple shows you how Apple makes computing fun. I'm glad that the price points didn't skyrocket with the new model because extra bells and whistles. Keeping the price low gives skeptics a chance to see what an Apple can do. Furthermore, the maintenance free nature of my Macs far outweighs the costs in time from not having to troubleshoot Windows.
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by WealthAlchemist March 3, 2009 9:44 AM PST
we are not sure if mac mini will generate any demand as recession is deepen and future is uncertain:

http://www.wealthalchemist.com/Blog/2009/03/dow-drops-7000-depression/
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by thebendds March 3, 2009 11:36 AM PST
I'm not sure why the Mac Mini is being compared to the Acer in this article. From the looks of it, the Acer is more of a mini-tower. I think a more accurate comparison would be to the Dell Studio Hybrid or Asus Eee Box.
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by darylmonge@mac.com March 3, 2009 11:44 AM PST
I just came from dell.com and a nearly equally specced Insiron 530s base price $279 (more memory at 2GB but no photo software) came to $539 (no monitor). The big difference was the upgrade to the core 2 processor from a Celeron. So I would conclude that as always Apple does not have a product offering at the low end, but their price is not (excessively) higher than the competition.
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by solitare_pax March 3, 2009 3:01 PM PST
But how long will that offer at Dell last? Check again in a week and you will need to re-spec the machine all over again to find your sweet spot.
by karport March 3, 2009 12:12 PM PST
Apple continues to inch away from being a computer company. Live the VW bug of the 1960's it now makes small but steady improvements to their product. Unlike VW Apple relies on high margins rather than sales. It is unclear that in this new age of shrinking salaries and prices if apple can continue to sell at a premium and when will users opt to switch to lower priced hardware. I have owned a Mac since the Lisa days and right now using a MacBook Air. However last month when my daughters ibook died a premature death, we opted for a Dell saving almost $500.

It looks to me like Apple has bet its future on content and a market strategy that looks for the up scale buyer and that makes sense. Competing on the basis of price is a tough way to do business. The only complaint I have is that for a premium price the warranty and support should also be premium.
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by daedbird March 3, 2009 3:10 PM PST
To me, I would never buy a Mac Mini to be my main computer, but I would buy it to be the center of my media center because of its small size. Streaming content, playing movies, TV from iTunes, even acting as my DVD player. I am tempted to get this model, along with EyeTV to add DVR capability, just wish that Apple found a way to deal with the 'bag of hurt' BluRay is to make this a steal......BUT I still don't understand the DisplayPort/Mini DVI choice, instead of just giving us a HDMI port......
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by MrMurder March 3, 2009 6:43 PM PST
You can get a bigger HDD on the sixth generation iPod Classic! The proccessor still has a slower clock speed than other desktops (the Mac Mini is not a nettop becuase it doesn't use the Intel Atom chip). I'm not a big fan of Safari becuase it may not support add-ons. And still no Blu-ray Disc drive or HDMI port on this thing (which would make the Mini less overrated). Although Apple did okay to update it.
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by wigmo March 4, 2009 8:16 AM PST
It's perfect for a PC developer who want's to experiment with iPhone development. Low investment without the guilt of having to go with pystar .
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by opbear March 4, 2009 10:01 AM PST
Any large 22" recommendations for the new mac mini and suggested type of connection? Thanks
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by seven7dust March 5, 2009 7:47 AM PST
Definitely Viewsonic, most of their LCDs r good enough
but if you need the absolute best then Look into the 24" Apple Display
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