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A new Nintendo DS on the way? Don't hold your breath

by Will Greenwald
Nintendo DS Lite

Nintendo DS Lite

Yesterday, GameSpot reported that Pacific Crest Securities analyst Evan Wilson says Nintendo is gearing up to release a redesigned DS. Apparently, Wilson's "contacts" have told him that a new DS is complete. This redesigned DS, Wilson says, is slimmer than the current DS Lite, includes onboard memory, and features a larger screen. More interestingly, this new DS doesn't have a slot for Game Boy Advance games.

Call me a skeptic, because I'm pretty darn skeptical about this theory. Wilson seems to be straddling the line between "short-term prediction an industry analyst pulled out of thin air" and "long-term prediction that, two or three years from now, will obviously come true."

The Nintendo DS has already seen one hugely successful redesign in the DS Lite. It's thinner, lighter, and much brighter than the original DS and has been selling by the truckload. Last year, I saw times when the DS Lite was as scarce and sought-after as the Nintendo Wii. A generation before the DS, Nintendo redesigned the Game Boy Advance into the slimmer and lighter Game Boy Advance SP.

Unfortunately, Nintendo didn't stop there and instead went on to release the Game Boy Micro, a Game Boy Advance with a much smaller body and brighter screen. Gamers met this second redesign with a collective "Meh." The GBA SP already did what they wanted it to do; it was small, bright, and played all their GBA games. There wasn't a reason to get the Micro. Plenty of gamers are still quite pleased with their DS Lites, and I don't think they're going to find much of a reason to replace it, even if it has a larger screen and some onboard memory.

Wilson's claim that the redesigned DS won't support GBA games makes me even more skeptical; the GBA has a massive library of inexpensive, fun games that still see a lot of play. If Nintendo simply dropped that support, it would be as foolish as if Sony dropped support for Playstation 2 games in its Playstation 3. Oh, wait.

In fairness, Nintendo dropped support for the original Game Boy games with the Nintendo DS, so there is at least some precedent for it. I just seriously doubt it would happen. The Game Boy library was huge, but seriously aging. The earliest Game Boy titles are 18 years old now. If you have the original Tetris, it can probably vote in the 2008 election. More importantly, unlike the Game Boy/GBA compatibility, the DS' backwards compatibility enhances game play for DS games. If you plug in certain GBA games while you play DS titles like Advance Wars Dual Strike or Mega Man Star Force, you can unlock bonus content in those games. Cutting out GBA compatibility removes that possibility and makes obsolete many gamers' sizable GBA libraries. The supposed redesign's onboard memory would open the possibility for downloadable Game Boy and Game Boy Advance games, but I don't see why Nintendo would waste such a massive new feature on a simple product redesign. That sort of upgrade would be more warranted in Nintendo's next handheld game player to justify outright replacing the DS with a new system. Onboard memory would either be wasted on the DS' current system design, or require a fairly substantial reworking of its interface.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely think that Nintendo is hard at work on a new handheld player. I just don't think that we're going to see a redesigned DS any time soon. In two years, maybe we'll see the Nintendo DS Advance or some other handheld with more power and features. And yes, it might drop Game Boy Advance support at that point but retain DS support. But it probably won't be a DS redesign any more than the DS is a Game Boy Advance redesign or the Game Boy Advance is a Game Boy redesign. It will probably be a new system.

Of course, I might be wrong and Nintendo might unveil the DS Micro for a summer release. But I seriously doubt it.

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Good to know
by x0pa November 15, 2007 9:32 AM PST
i was very curious if nintendo was going to be releasing a new handle within the next 2 years as im seriously considering getting a DS
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Make Obsolete? What?
by JazGalaxy November 15, 2007 9:45 AM PST
I find it annoying when those who discuss gaming make comments about how a new hardware product that doesn't support backwards compatability somehow ruins their old gaming collection.

Nintendo releasing a new DS that does not support original Gameboy games does not send a Nintendo agent into your living room to stomp on all your copies of Castlvania Adventure and Mario Land.

If you wish to play old Gameboy games, just keep your old gameboy. It is not your right as a gamer to sell your old product and use that as a downpayment on the newest hardware model.

There's no reason to believe that Nintendo would not offer a new revision of the DS that elimates backward compatibility. I'm not saying they are, but there is no reason to beleive they would not.
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Gameboy advance sp
by Masterface7 November 15, 2007 11:32 AM PST
My gameboy advance SP most certainly does support the oldest of old gameboy games, i know becuase i play kirbys pinball still all the time. The DS doesnt play gameboy original (as is) and the reason dropping compatablilty sucks on a portable player is because what is the point of having a new lighter ds if i always have to carry my old one around too to play gba games.
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Have JUST updating myself to the DS Lite
by make_or_break November 16, 2007 5:24 AM PST
I'm not exactly loving this bit of info. My first-gen DS works perfectly well, but I couldn't resist the upgrades to the Lite anymore, particular in the new shade of red. If indeed the DS is going to be reworked and released shortly, particularly on the onboard storage side I'm going to suffer a heaping case of buyer's remorse, and indeed I'll be seeing red in more places than just on the outside of my most recent Nintendo gadget.

Then again, these so-called tech analysts (fortune tellers?) have been known to be WRONG more often than right. Here's hoping I get at least a year's worth of use without the distraction of wanderlust...
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I have had the DS since day one
by frz1 November 16, 2007 10:37 AM PST
I bought the original DS when it came out and the DS lite as well, so I've had it for a while now. I wouldn't mind a new DS lither and with a wider screen. I mean that has been the only criticism from users of the DS game line. If this rumor does come out to be true, you bet I will forward to get that new and better system.
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If they want to get serious
by Renegade Knight November 16, 2007 11:44 AM PST
They need to use the entire top clamshell for the upper screen. Then add PSP media features.

Keep the touch screen. Add SD support or CF for a Micro Drive.

Then maybe you can drop support for older non DS games. But you better be calling this a DS2 and have new and better ability with your DS2 games.
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Having been a once huge GBA fan,
by BeatleMegaFan November 18, 2007 7:52 PM PST
losing GBA support would hurt the Nintendo fan base. I still play Camelot's
incredible Golden Sun series over and over. Those two GBA games are, in my
opinion, the best RPGs ever made. I don't use my DS too much, but when I
do, it's good to have some kind of game like Tetris and an old favorite GBA
game to go with it, vice versa.
Dropping the support wouldn't be cool, and if Camelot releases a third
Golden Sun like the GI interview of the Takahashi brothers hinted upon, this
compatibility will be needed to transfer data from the second Golden Sun
game, since I have yet to find a transfer feature hidden in it like the first
installment of the game. But I digress...
At least Nintendo has always had something new and innovative. Perhaps the
new DS will be a good thing, supposing these rumors are false. You'd think
DS sales would have gone up with the touch screen craze that's been going
around since the iPhone's debut. Maybe they have, but I've not seen the
figures. I wonder who has.
-BMF
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by I_Want_A_New_System June 24, 2008 8:33 PM PDT
If im gonna have to keep on waiting...


I want my new system!!! I've had the DS lite for 2 fricking years and i have to share it with my sisters uggggh my parents wont let me buy my own and its HORROR! They should be making a Nintendo DS advance that plays new games and has a lot of new features like the following

-Bigger mic
-Bigger LCD screens
-slimmer ( although i like it the way it is)
-A browser installed into it, so we can go online
-PLAYS ALL THE GB,GBC,GBA AND DS GAMES!
because im sick and tired of carrying my game boy color with me wherever i go to play my kirby tilt'n'tumble!
--A small drive to play SD cards and so that it can be at the top of the ds of its shell
so i wouldnt have to open up my ds to see my pics and that it shows the time

Thats really all i want IS IT SO HARD STUPID NINTENDO!
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by SBZ-1114 July 31, 2008 2:19 PM PDT
People really need to stop high demands.

The DS and THE GBA have been great, becoming the kings of the handheld gaming world as Gameboy and Gameboy color had for so many years before.. even slamming out potential competition like the sega gamegear and "game com" [http://for anyone that remembers that weird thing..|http://for anyone that remembers that weird thing..]

The only concept I can't stand is how many "casual" gamers out there think that the newest Nintendo handheld [or DS remake] should have music, media, videos, SD readers, etc. just like the "PSP" has many features, as they say...

...a few points of opinion;

A) I believe that Nintendo keeps its place as the hand held gaming leader because of its traditional simplicity and focus on its classic library, rather than adding more features than the player can handle.

B) Key term, "portable", and I really don't think its neccesary to have so many of those things away from home.. we can survive without them. We got by perfectly fine in the 90's with a GB that didn't even have COLOR for the longest time, and we didn't complain [much].

C) The only reason people have become so obsessed over these concepts lately is because of the integration of these features into products such as the "iPhone", which are simply attempting to monopolize the technology market by putting these features into a single item.

Can you say, $ $ $ $

D) Most importantly, the Nintendo DS is NOT the PSP.. both systems have their pros and cons, for one the simplicity of the DS [as well as past portable Nintendo devices] has made the cost MUCH lower than the competition ...which almost always includes more than a portable on-the-go device should...

..For example, it was nice when I was able to pay $149.99 for a portable game system that played GAMES, and not have to pay an extra $149.99 for the features I didn't even want to begin with.. and I know A LOT of people who agree with me on this.

...I seriously think if somebody becomes THIS obsessed with having so much media access with them at every single time of day, 24/7, AND assuming that they make enough money that they can afford $600 phones and $300 portable game systems...

...they should simply invest in a small laptop [if they already haven't].

.....and yes, I am aware of the fact that an iPhone is much smaller than a laptop.

...but either way, chances are if I'm THAT engaged in my "personal media", I'm going to be sitting down anyways.

If you can walk-n-surf with, more power to you.. :3

Nintendo should stay purely Nintendo, and I believe people should seek elsewhere for all of the other features so the rest of us can enjoy our favorite games without the fear of spending an arm and a leg for some flashy consumer trap being marketed to people who think its "cool".
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