By Stefanie Olsen
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: October 11, 2007 4:00 a.m. PDT
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When Hemi Zucker's 8-year-old son began refusing to leave the computer for the dinner table, things came to a head.
His wife, frustrated by the many hours a week their son plays games online and his vehemence to stretch out the fun, banned the computer altogether.
"The computer is the 'c' word in our house," said Zucker, a Los Angeles resident.
The Zuckers aren't alone with the creeping feeling that their kids are spending too much time online. About a third of parents believe the Internet sucks up too much of their child's time, according to at least two studies this year. And an annual report from the University of Southern California's Annenberg School Center for the Digital Future shows that number has risen steadily since 2000, when only 11 percent of parents cited the issue.
To add perspective, nearly half of parents (48.6 percent) complained that their kids watch too much television in the 2007 study--the highest level in the six years of USC's digital future project. So TV certainly hasn't lost its stature in the home.
It's hard to predict whether the computer will outpace TV on the list of parental frustrations, but the studies and trends elevate its status. As more schools adopt a digital curriculum, children are spending more time in front of a computer screen at home and school to complete coursework. That alone could lend to a feeling among parents that kids are online too much. But where it gets sticky is that the Internet is also a hub for socializing, self-expression, play and time-shifted television, making it irresistible to more kids.
One parent described the phenomenon like this: "Their school life, TV life and their social networking is happening online," said Wayne Crews, a father of four in Fairfax, Wash. "Nobody knows how to bait a hook, but they know how to download and install a Windows file."
So how much is too much? Experts say there's no hard and fast rule for each family, and it should vary according to the child's age and school curriculum. Jim Steyer, founder and CEO of kids media-education group Common Sense Media, said pre-kindergarten children should likely stay off the computer altogether, but older "tweens" may need to spend an hour or more on the computer each day for homework.
"If it's getting in the way of other activities, like being outside and spending time with parents, then it's too much," Steyer said.
Steyer himself has a family rule that bars his kids from watching TV or playing computer games during the week because he and his wife want them to play outside.
How much time online?
On average, more than three-quarters of Americans age 12 and older spend about 8.9 hours online per week, up about an hour from a 2005 study from the USC-Annenberg Digital Future Project. But young people, specifically ages 8 to 18, spend about an hour on the computer and 49 minutes playing video games per day, according to the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation.
Crews, director of technology studies at the policy advocacy group Competitive Enterprise Institute, said his daughters, 8 and 11, are addicted to Webkinz, a virtual world populated by digital pets. But he and his wife limit the time they can spend playing and socializing on the site to about an hour a day (the same time limits they set with TV), so Crews takes a positive view of their time spent on the computer. That's particularly important considering the kids are doing more of their homework online and potentially watching streaming TV shows over broadband.
"The same way they might be watching TV and look down at a textbook, now they might be on Blackboard.com (a school curriculum Web site) and then toggle over to Webkinz," Crews said.
Crews' wife also limits their 13-year-old son to two hours a day playing computer games like Halo on the Xbox.
Crews added: "You don't want them to turn into jelly. You limit what they do, but I don't think they miss out on imaginative play by doing things online. They can get a lot more out of playing Halo than with the Play-Doh Fun Factory."
Some parents believe the computer is just supplanting the TV as the predominant screen in the home. But some industry experts say that the computer is different because it's more interactive--involving games and socializing. However, it's similar to TV in that it often means the child is sedentary. And some research has shown that computer games and the Internet can be more addictive than TV viewing.
Bobbie Carlton, director of marketing for Beacon Street Girls, a kids' social network, said she limits her boys, who are ages 5 and 10, to one hour of screen-time--whether it's video games, TV, DVDs or the computer--per day. And she enforces the time limit by setting a kitchen timer.
She added that it can be hard to always set a good example because she's online for work so much. "It's hard for the pot to be calling the kettle black," Carlton said.
Steyer said it's important for parents to set time limits for children when they're young, even if they're in preschool, so they know how much time they can spend online or with TV and video. He added that parents should keep the computer in a common family room, and talk regularly with their kids about what they do on the computer.
Still, the Zuckers aren't alone in taking the computer away. In 2006, USC reported that almost 50 percent of parents had withheld Internet use from their child as a form of punishment.
"Teaching kids that using the Web is a privilege not a right, that's very important from the beginning because good media habits can last a lifetime," Steyer said.
Send insights or tips on this topic to stefanie.olsen@cnet.com.
Stefanie Olsen covers science and technology for CNET News.com. In this series, she examines the young generation's unique immersion in the Web, cell phones, IM and online communities.
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Most stores sell a little router you plug into your Internet connection, and in it are tools that allow you to put in all forms of restriction. If you worry that the kid might play on it when you're not around, just unplug the video cable between machine and monitor and take it with you.
Of course, just being a parent and shutting the thing off works too.
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This doesn't mean that they are "bad parents", just because they decide to use parental control software.
Also, Vista's parental controls are lacking and who wants to upgrade to Vista anyways right now.
Have a look at ComputerTime. It is very flexible. (<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.softwaretime.com/" target="_newWindow">http://www.softwaretime.com/</a>)
regards,
allan
I recall that my parents had zero problems with getting my semi-rebellious teenaged self away from the old Intellivision rig - it was a simple matter of pulling the plug.
If I had a kid in the house like that described in the article, it would be a simple matter of setting the router to deny access during dinner time and after bedtime, and probably even setting the machine itself to shut down during dinner, at bedtime... just as a friendly reminder.
But then, if the ever-so-exasperated woman was doing her job in the first place, it wouldn't have been a problem.
I realize that parenting is probably the hardest improvised job in the human experience, but honestly - we've been doing it with varying degrees of success and failure for over 3 million+ years now, so it's not like there's no precedent as to what works and what doesn't.
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damned computer! Turn off the TV! The truth is that many
parents don't object to these devices, they use them as
surrogate parents.
How pitiful is the parent who can't set rules for his child's
computer use because he spends time on a computer himself.
Must children be able to do everything their parents do?
Set rules and live by them; and don't be such a selfish and lazy
parent disengaged from your kid. Problem solved.
"In the United States today, there is a pervasive tendency to treat
children as adults, and adults as children. The options of
children are thus steadily expanded, while those of adults are
progressively constricted. The result is unruly children and
childish adults." -- Thomas Szasz
Maybe its a little overboard but I also feel if you don't know how a car works you shouldn't drive one either. Same goes for computers.
Im 14. You guys wont take me seriously. But i dont care. I just post my views. And im not the stereotype kid.
It is up to the parent to do the parenting. The TV and PC aren't going to make the kid do the choirs, go outside and get physical activity, or eat healthy.
but it seems like I have a bigger problem with it than my parents. my parents let me do like i want on the web because they trust me, and so far they have had no reason not to!
i do well at school, very well actuly and in 8. grade it aren't to hard so homework isn't a big time eater (normaly 10 minuts, when projekt up to max. 1 hour)
I'm pretty in to healthy life, and want to live long and most importent of all live well (not get sick when im 60 and live the last 30 years of my life half dead) so im eating healty and going to a bit sports (4 hours a week)and in week ends i go at least one long walk.
that is importent for me to feel like im not are pure computer nerd, besides that i very creative with my computer, using The GIMP, Maya and hoping to get PhotoShop some day.
and know what? all my freinds are like me, some even worse with computer
im happy as i live right now ^^ but hope that i in the future can spend less time on the computer and more time with freinds (freinds more than 4 days a week) but right now i don't feel like having a problem
im one of the most active in my class and in gym i can see the resultat, am faster, stronger, and more cleaver than the most others so don't planning on spending much lesser time on the computer ^^
I play games (I like strategy and RPGs) and I use AIM and myspace. However, I can write! I don't string my sentences together in to one massive run-on. Please learn how to use spell check. People won't take you seriously if you misspell things and don't speak properly.
And my Dad would be pretty mad to learn you think 60 is so crotchety :)
- A 16 year old kid.
Make sure you spend time playing outside, too. That's very important. Trust me, when you're grown up, you'll wish you had more time to spend AWAY from the computer.
Also, having your computer be "your life" is terrible! When I was younger (I'm 25 now) I was expected to play outside and socialize face-to-face with kids my age.
I think you must not be a native english-speaker, your composition seems decidedly foreign.
In my house, my 8-year has learned that when I say dinner, he comes. The idea of refusing doesn't even enter his mind because he knows what the consequence will be.
In my house, it would never get to the point where I would have to ban the computer because my child was refusing to come to dinner, because my child wouldn't be on the computer without explicit permission in the first place.
Let me give a tip to you parents out there struggling with this issue.
The first time your 8-year old refuses to obey you, realize that you have screwed up as a parent. Suck it up, and take confidence in the fact that with your child at the age of 8, you still have time to repair the damage.
Now, once the child refuses to obey, you immediately go over to said child, lay a good whack on his butt and tell him: that wasn't a request, get your butt over to the dinner table. Now.
Depending on how slack a parent you have been, you may need to repeat this a few more times over the next couple of weeks until your child realizes that disobedience will be consistently punished.
And just FYI, I am the father of 10 children, none of whom have EVER refused to walk away from the computer for dinner.
I applaud you for disciplining your children, something that is lost today.
I am 41 years old and my brother is eight years older. If my mother said not to turn on the television, we didn't. There was no such thing as grounding, banning, etc. She went and got a switch and dusted our legs and bottoms and that was the end of it.
The lack of discipline concerning the pc which is a tool and not a toy is the reason that so many kids become victims of online predators or wind up going off with grown adults.
If there were more parents like you and as well as my mother, the many problems on and off the pc wouldn't even exist. We need to get that back.
Thank you. You made my day.
The problem is partially the parents here, not allow their children to go out and explore their world anymore because they have made the very 'boogie men' that they say they are trying to protect their children from with the anti-pedosexual laws of today.
I admit that as an adult I go through phases of being glued to the computer for no good reason, but if nothing else my parents taught me that it isn't healthy to do that for too long, any more than it's healthy to crash out in front of the TV for four hours a night. If I catch myself doing that I can shake myself out of it before I start engaging in truly addictive behaviour.
The computer is such a multifunctional machine. Maybe rather than limiting the amount of time spent 'on the computer', you can limit the amount of time a kid spends on electronic entertainment (which could be computer or TV) and chatting with friends (on the phone or online), without cutting their access to things they need for school or things that encourage their creativity (even if those things involve the computer).
And honestly, leaving your kid alone on the computer is about as smart as leaving your kid alone at the park. If your kid has street smarts, maybe it's safe. If you don't teach them that stuff, they'll get lured into all kinds of trouble. Common sense is not instinctive. (I can see that there are kids and teens reading this as well -- don't scoff and say 'I know how to take care of myself', because that never helped anyone in the real world or online. Be skeptical and think critically instead of believing what you want to believe.)
It's time to realize that the main reason that people becoming 'internet addicts' is because they have nothing in their lives that is important and that they can do because things have gotten so expensive today.
I can't go swimming at my local swim center during the summer because it costs nearly 2,000 dollars just for the summer! It costs 4,000 for the whole year, which includes a pass to a indoor swim center near where I live.
Parents, start making your children's lives more fun and they will stop being online so much. Take them out to skate rinks. Take them ice skating. Take them bowling. Sign them up for a sport! Just get them something to do BESIDES sit in front of the computer that is fun and they will SWARM to it like a bee heading towards a swimming pool full of honey!
Also to blame for children being sexually abused over the web.
The REAL blame rests squarely on the shoulder of the parents.
Have you ever been in a situation where something new, or which even remotely eased your life was available? as an adult... would you try and get it? Now think like a kid. Its human nature to want the easy things in life... to not have to work for it.
If a kid had these options:
walk 3 miles to a friends house to discuss something random.
discuss it over the phone (therefore spend money)
use an IM, which while not 'free', is a lot cheaper.
>> Id say the kid would pick the phone... but if he/she was money concious the IM would be the best choice.
HAVE YOU NEVER SPENT A LONG TIME TALKING ON THE PHONE? At least when you were a kid? Well... technology has evolved. The computer is the new phone.
The world is 'small' now. I myself go to a school 45 km away from home. Most my friends live the same distance away. How am i supposed to communicate with them?
As for not playing outside... I suggest you blame yourselves. Who came up with the Nintendo Wii and the PS2 Eye-Toy? Little kids?
Even health concious people like me are drawn to excercising with consoles such as that. Nothing can compare to the real thing... but if youve never experienced the real thing (like most these kids)... you will of course be drawn to the easier solution. Who wouldnt?
If this is really to be stopped i suggest you limit developement of these softwares, games and technologies to adults only. NO EXCEPTIONS. because if ONE kid has it... all will want it.
PS: Again... from a 'retarded' 14 year old. sorry i didnt tell you up there, but i figured you wouldnt read this unless i did.
Im going outside to play basketball now. Real life is better than the computer... but the computer is still enjoyable. Who doesnt like an escape form reality?
PSS: There are a lot af adults who are addicted to games as well. I suggest CNet writes a story about them fast...
But we got over it. Now, I realise that it ruined me academically and socially, and I'm starting to set my priorities right again. And about parents, they're always overseas so I did it myself. But it took me 3 years. When they're here though, and tell me to turn off the bloody computer, I throw a tantrum and be angry for the night, but the next day when I have school I thank god they did or else I'd fall asleep as soon as I sat down in class.
As for targeting the Kids, I think rap is right. The internet's there for us to use, so... why not? It's INSTANT and it's FREE (well, except for the bill) and there is no limit. I guess balancing the time on and off the computer is the problem, but as a parent, try not to 'force' your kid off the computer, because they will HATE you for it. Show them the results of them spending too much time on the computer, so they will realise for themselves that they alone are ruining their own life. And... never tell your kids how you never spent that much time on the computer and you worked this hard did this did that because quite frankly, we don't care, and you never had the temptations that we have now on the internet back when you guys were kids.