January 5, 2005 5:21 AM PST

Newsmaker: Vonage chief: Nobody's sweeping us under

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Vonage chief: Nobody's sweeping us under

Three years after opening for business, Vonage has become the largest provider of voice over Internet Protocol services in the United States. Much of the credit goes to CEO Jeffrey Citron, an acerbic-tongued Staten Island native whose rough edges have shaped the public persona of this fast-growing start-up.

Along the way, however, the scrappy company has earned its fair share of rivals. Some competitors speculate (sotto voce, of course) that Vonage's 15 minutes of fame are about up and that the company is doomed to be elbowed aside by far larger cable and telephone companies. Whether that's an accurate prediction or just wishful thinking, there's no question the industry is evolving fast. More-established companies are finally getting aggressive with their own Net phone services--and that's likely to raise challenges for Vonage.

CNET News.com recently spoke with Citron about the changing face of the VoIP industry and what it might portend for his company.

Q: Some estimates say there will be 1 million total VoIP subscribers in the U.S. by January 2005. What's your guess?
A: I expect 1 million for the year, maybe a little more. If we just add the numbers up, everyone's on track to tap out over 1 million. I've read some projections for 2005, and most come in at 2.7 million total lines by the end of the year. That's also a pretty reasonable expectation.

There are 112 million residential phone lines in the United States that we can all look forward to going after.

That's a pretty aggressive figure.
People might have thought it's aggressive at first. But in light of really good numbers coming from Time Warner Cable, Cablevision and Vonage, that data now looks conservative. How conservative remains to be seen.

Where are the 1.7 million new VoIP customers coming from?
VoIP is starting to cross a chasm into something resembling a mass-market product. With a million users, it's become a mass-market product quickly. Vonage is going to be a big beneficiary; so will cable operators.

Lots of new competition for you guys lately. Do you think Vonage will end up getting swept under in 2005 by the major cable companies?
No, we're not going to get "swept under." There are 112 million residential phone lines in the United States that we can all look forward to going after.

But cable companies are getting closer to Vonage in terms of subscriber totals; are you feeling some footsteps behind you?
They won't roll over us. Cablevision has been doing this as long as Vonage has, and they are, I admit, doing well. In the third quarter, they added what I estimate to be 74,000 subscribers. Vonage added 80,000. They'll probably have around 275,000 for year. Vonage will be a lot higher.

What about Time Warner Cable, which planned to end the year with 200,000 telephone subscribers?
Time Warner has been rather quiet on data, actually. They entered this year with 35,000 subscribers. They say they've grown quickly; I estimate they've added 100,000 lines; we think we'll (have added) more than 100,000.

We have reselling partnerships with some cable operators...It's just a nice, informal partnership.

AT&T has yet to report the number of their VoIP subscribers. What do you think that number is?
If what I've read and seen about what they've done (in 2004) is true, AT&T is still struggling and continues to struggle. The industry rumor is they are still sub-50,000.

What is your opinion of Verizon's residential VoIP service and the other efforts from the traditional local phone companies?
It's interesting to talk about VoiceWing, (Verizon's residential VoIP product), but it's a small play. Maybe it'll be bigger one day. AT&T...it's hard to predict what's going to be happening (in 2005).

What is the relationship like between Vonage and cable providers? Do you do any business with your competitors?
We have reselling partnerships with some cable operators. Other than that, we all work together on social policy obligations and lots of regulatory elements. We do discuss and share data about how things are going, like what's working well, what's not, where there have been issues. It's just a nice, informal partnership.

What's going to happen in New York this month, when state utility regulators will try to overturn a judge's ruling keeping them from imposing their rules on Vonage and other VoIP providers?
It's very hard to say what will exactly occur. We got a great decision from (the) Federal Communications Commission saying that Vonage is off-limits to state regulation. But the New York Public Service Commission has a lot of options. But they did say, publicly, in the past, they would adhere to the FCC decision.

When do you expect portable phones that have Wi-Fi connections will show up and start turning hot spots into giant VoIP phone booths?
Manufacturers are now working out the kinks, and a lot of them are finding out it's not as easy as first thought. They have to solve issues of battery life, usability and authentication onto Wi-Fi networks. But I think Wi-Fi phones are definitely a first-quarter item.  

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Is the figure really so low for CallVantage? Does any1 know who has a better service among the ones mentioned. I am expecting more pricecuts in the future since the competition seems to be hotting up
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Not sure...
I'm using Vonage and though its saved me 300% over traditional local, intra and toll calling, its still with some problems:

-if your broadband goes, so does the calling
-Quality of service issues (signal can degrade when bandwisth is used..say with online downloading, others using connection via router...)
-sometime callwaiting fails and instead, rolls caller into VM.
-Do have both a cellphone and Voip. you can fall back on Cell if Voip goes out.

Other than that, its great. I can log calls, check blling online, email my voicemails as a wav file...two area codes to save family & friends costs in calling me...

(I don't represent Vonage...just a satisfied customer)
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Quantity and Quality
My guess is that Vonage will ultimately be bought by a company that is vertically integrated into the market. The unfortunate fact is that monopolies and perhaps long distance carriers have some distinct advantages in the long run. The question will be how hard will VoIP companies push phone companies (ILECs) fixed costs (or their leverage) up as a matter of percentage of revenue. As customers move to VoIP, fixed costs will remain yet revenue will decrease. I'll put money on it, as this happens the monopolies will fight back with their power (i.e. their network fees). The monopolies have a VERY strong lobby and in many cases are very good at rolling over the state regulatory agencies.

I hope competition continues though... it's something the monopolies need. It's about time service and quality came to phone service (DSL service) in the USA.
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Your Vonage Story
You need to do the story on how Vonage was not ready or capable to handle the amount of customers wanting number transfers, and that fact that they are making them wait 6 months or more, and that even when they say they have completed a transfer, it is not completed.
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.vonage-forum.com/forum8.html" target="_newWindow">http://www.vonage-forum.com/forum8.html</a> Look at this link for just some of them and you will see what I mean I am the one trying to get a class action lawsuit against them because they are jeopordizing the safety of my family since 911 would not be able to Reverse call me in the case of an emergency, not to mention all the phone calls I have missed due to them not transfering my number correctly.
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Reverse call
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.analogstereo.com/peugeot_607_owners_manual.htm" target="_newWindow">http://www.analogstereo.com/peugeot_607_owners_manual.htm</a>
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My husbands' death
I too have had a "911 experience" with Vonage. My husband had subscribed to Vonage about 3 weeks or so before his heart attack. I didn't know much about it, and I guess neither did he. But on December 21, 2003 when he collapsed in our apartment, my 24 year old son tried to call 911 from our new Vonage system, and wasn't able to. He had to run down to a neighbor to dial 911 and by the time the ambulance responded, there was nothing they could do to revive my husband. He had a massive heart attack.
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