U.S. defense networks attacked via China

Web sites in China are being used as a staging ground for attacks on U.S. Defense Department networks, according to reports.

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[gfsdfge]

Not a problem.

Once we offshore enough of our high tech and R&D work , they will not need to hack. They'll just go through the front door that they built for us.

History repeats itself

Maybe outside US we see a very different world than inside US. Decades ago the evil enemy was the Soviet Union, waiting in the shadows to nuke the US, but it turned to be the other way around. It was the US that put nukes in every russian border and they only wanted to keep their country safe. Once the USSR collapsed on its own corruption and badly managed government a new enemy showed his face in every movie, Saddam Hussein, (a ruler placed and armed by the US to attack Iran) once it was no longer usefull to US interests the US just crushed him with the most wonderful pack of lies (first it was WMD, none found, then it was mobile labs, none found, then it was nuclear plants with a forged contract, lies and more lies) and finally it was "he was a tyrant ruler anyway, so let's bring democracy to them". But wait without Saddam there is no more evil figure to hate, enter China. Now the Big Red Menace is the enemy, let's begin with some TV shows, movies and really scary news to justify military action against the chinese. Let's continue with oil that Iraq was selling to them, then the oil that Iran was planing on sell, but wait, Venezuela's crazy dictator wants to sell oil to them, so let's put a public figure on TV (Pat Robertson) to show the american people that Chavez is better death and the world will be safer (another unkeep promise from your president, remember "The world is now safer without Saddam Hussein", just another big fat lie).
For the rest of the world is the US that's making the world unsafe and the problem now is that US CAN'T get out of Iraq, that would be a bigger mistake than going to war.
I don't know how many GOOD AMERICAN PEOPLE has to die just to fulfill the megalomaniac dreams of world domination of some pseudo-american groups controling the US government.

[Christopher Hall]

You're a loony nut

That's about the craziest left-wing rant I've read all day. Thanks for the laughs.

[David Arbogast]

What a Lark!

Extremism at its finest right here. Geeze... I for one am glad that you are not in the U.S. We don't need voters who think like you.

History is written by winners

That doesn't mean is the absolute truth, it's just the winners truth.
All I can see from the so called war on terror is many years (maybe 20) of a bloody and senseless fight, not just with Iraq, but Iran too, they are moving for it. They will react with terrorist attacks against Europe and UK (the US will have some but none as horrible). Oil prices will skyrocket, making Mr. Bush and his oil gang laughing all the way to the bank. They will be a growing rapport in the US for senseless killing, and will pressure to stop the bloodbath. The government will find a way to get the hell out, throw some blanket to the matter and make a deal to not disclose the truth about it and democracy will not florish in the desert of middle east.

[gfsdfge]

your not so far off...

Don't let these other naive Americans chastise you. Your thoughts are probably pretty close to the mark. I am American, educated, a combat veteran, and well traveled both via the military and business. I spent a notable amount of time in Nicaragua in ?85. What we did there was lied about extensively in the American media.
And Dave, I DO VOTE.

[Scott W]

you're spot on

i agree with you completely. the problem with the US is that most of your citizens are sheep (no offense). look at the public reaction to war in the UK, we are the most cynical public around. we disregarded enquiries whitewashing the government as propaganda, the papers happily slag off government desicions among other things. in the UK corruption is heavily publiscised (sp?) and many high-ranking government officals have lost their jobs because of it (9/11 "good day to bury bad news" anyone?). if the US was more like the UK and had the balls to speak out against their government then maybe the country wouldn't be in the mess it is in now. 9/11 proved how gutless the US was when they passed the PATRIOT act and took away everyone's freedom. in the wake of 7/7 the most extreme laws the government will pass are to keep preachers of hate and terrorism out the country.

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Why?

Why is the defence network even connected to the internet?

Best way to keep a system secure from internet hackers is to not connect it to the internet. I realize that for many companies this is not an option, but military computers should NEVER see the internet. There is absoutly no valid reason. (You can still have internet access, just use a different computer that has NO access to the military side of the network. Not reduced or restricted access, NO access)

[Bob Brinkman]

ummmmm

The internet arose from defense networks. They are using the same lines to get data around the globe that everone is.

[Bob Brinkman]

incase you need sources..

http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?ARPANET

Good Question

All of us must ask Why, more often.
You are right. It makes no sense for the military to use Internet as their communication environment.
Maybe some hackers could down Navy's website but that it, it only goes as far as that.
I still believe is all a plan to create a hostile environment to pressure China.

Reuters- U.S. defense networks attacked via China

Reuters- U.S. defense networks attacked via China

Mr. AT Alishtari, POA and Founder EDI Secure LLLP, says he discovered this news story the hard way by having his servers attacked by virus from China just like the DOD. He had to use DOD contractor type software to stop it but he could not do like the U.S. did which is look up all related links.

Still, the black hat perpetrators are world class and do cloaking and using robots with the best of them. These war of the wormers are hiding behind the fact they have some wiggle room now but de worming is coming soon. Enough said on that.

[Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Ali]

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[Steven N]

It's called spoofing...

Main keyword in this article: web sites are attacking...

If I wanted to make a scan on some US military site, I wouldn't go and do this directly.
I would go via some idle web server, and make the scan that way.

Textbook probing going on there. Just google with "idle host scanning" if you want to learn more about it.

Basically, the attacker can be located anywhere. It just looks as if the attack is coming from China. But that doesn't fit the propaganda machine of course.

[n3r0]

duh!

good point. if china really was (who says they're/we're/everyone's not) "siphon" information, why would they leave it blatantly obvious it's from them?