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A Republican-controlled House Energy and Commerce subcommittee on Wednesday defeated a proposal that would have levied extensive regulations on broadband providers and forcibly prevented them from offering higher-speed video services to partners or affiliates.
By an 8-to-23 margin, the committee members rejected a Democratic-backed "Net neutrality" amendment to a current piece of telecommunications legislation. The amendment had attracted support from companies including Amazon.com, eBay, Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, and their chief executives wrote a last-minute letter to the committee on Wednesday saying such a change to the legislation was "critical."
Before the vote, amendment sponsor Rep. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, assailed his Republican colleagues. "We're about to break with the entire history of the Internet," Markey said. "Everyone should understand that."
This philosophical rift extends beyond the precise wording of the telecommunications legislation. It centers on whether broadband providers will be free to design their networks as they see fit and enjoy the latitude to prioritize certain types of traffic--such as streaming video--over others. (In an interview last week with CNET News.com, Verizon Chief Technology Officer Mark Wegleitner said prioritization is necessary to make such services economically viable.)
After a day of debate, the committee went on to vote 27-4 in favor of approving the final bill--minus the Democrats' amendment--sending it onward to full committee consideration, expected in late April. The vote on the amendment itself did not occur strictly along party lines, with one Republican voting in favor and four Democrats voting against it.
Leading Republicans have dismissed concerns about Net neutrality, also called network neutrality, as simultaneously overblown and overly vague.
"This is not Chicken Little, the sky is not falling, we're not going to change the direction of the axis of the earth on this vote," said Rep. John Shimkus, an Illinois Republican. He said overregulatory Net neutrality provisions would amount to picking winners and losers in the marketplace and discourage investment in faster connections that will benefit consumers.
Last week, Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Joe Barton said: "Before we get too far down the road, I want to let the market kind of sort itself out, and I'm not convinced that we really have a problem with Net neutrality."
Barton and other Republican leaders of the House panel did, however, offer some modest changes to a telecommunications bill in response to concerns from Internet and software companies.
Their replacement bill would require the Federal Communications Commission to vet all complaints of violations of Net neutrality principles within 90 days. It gave the FCC the power to levy fines of up to $500,000 per violation.
It also contained explicit language denying the FCC the authority to make new rules on Net neutrality. Democrats charged that lack of enforcement power would mean the FCC would be unable to deal with the topic flexibly.
Rep. Charles Pickering, a Mississippi Republican, backed that less-regulatory approach, saying that a "case-by-case adjudicatory process" is the best way to address Net neutrality concerns while ensuring competition in the marketplace.
Democrat's failed proposal
The amendment that was rejected on Wednesday took a similar approach to strict Net neutrality legislation introduced in the Senate last month by Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden.
It said that any content provider must be awarded bandwidth "with equivalent or better capability than the provider extends to itself or affiliated parties, and without the imposition of any charge." That would likely prohibit any plans by Verizon or other former Bell companies to offer their own video services that would be given priority over other traffic (video is bandwidth-intensive and intolerant of network delays).
"I think this walled garden approach that many network providers would like to create would fundamentally change the way the Internet works and undermine the power of the Net as a force of innovation and change," said Rep. Anna Eshoo, a California Democrat.
Markey warned: '"There is a fundamental choice. It's the choice between the bottleneck designs of a...small handful of very large companies and the dreams and innovations of thousands of online companies and innovators."
By "very large companies," Markey was not referring to Microsoft, which has a market value of $287 billion, but its much smaller political rival Verizon, which has a market value of $101 billion and has opposed Net neutrality mandates. Markey did not appear to be referring to Google, which has a value of $121 billion and has been lobbying on behalf of federal regulations, but to AT&T, which has a value of $105 billion and has opposed them.
A CNET News.com report published last week, however, showed that the Internet industry is being outspent in Washington by more than a 3-to-1 margin.
AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, and Verizon spent $230.9 million on politicians from 1998 until the present, while Amazon, eBay, Google, Microsoft and Yahoo spent only a combined $71.2 million. (Those figures include lobbying expenditures, individual contributions, political action committees and soft money.)
In the last week, the Net neutrality debate in Washington has spread beyond the circles of lobbyists for telecommunications and e-commerce companies.
A network of conservative and free-market groups has begun warning Congress that Net neutrality regulations are not consistent with Republican laissez-faire principles and protection of private-property rights.
The American Conservative Union, the National Taxpayers Union, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey's FreedomWorks, and Citizens Against Government Waste were among the signers of a letter Friday that said the Democrat-backed proposal would let the FCC "exercise complete discretion over the Internet."
"At the very least," the letter cautioned, "the vague terminology could lead to an explosion of litigation, which would, in turn, deter capital investments in technology and thwart the evolution of the Internet."
Republican insider Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform, which opposes tax hikes, added in a letter on Tuesday that "a network neutrality provision in any form would begin down the dangerous path of Internet regulation.
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You're putting the cart before the horse when you suggest that more money from Company X would result in Resolution B.
The reality is the opposite...
Money from Company X will be given to whomever is running a winning push for Resolution B.
Is the GOP completely losing their collective minds? More and more I get the feeling a sea change is coming in the next elections.
Pardon my dismay, but this one just hits too close to home.
Look, the 'net is still in its infancy so let's not lock it down with rules that might or might not address an actual problem. Neutrality legislation is speculative at best, and honestly, Congress doesn't know enough about the technology to get it right.
If there are market abuses, let the FCC address them individually. Otherwise, let's not be adding new burdens. It's a classic "be careful what you wish for".
More here: http://www.onlyrepublican.com/orinsf/net_neutrality_and_municipal_wifi/
The problem here is that the ISPs/telcos are already charging the end users (you and me) for that bandwidth. But, under this legislation, your access speeds to certain sites will depend on thier ability to pay more money to the ISP/telcom than a competing site.
So just what is your money paying for? If we can't control the bandwidth why should we be charged for it?
This is one of the most ignorant things the Republicans have done so far.
It will be the end of a free internet and the begining of an internet where you must subscribe to all sites to get acceptable bandwidth (to help them with the ransom money for the ISP/telco) AND have to pay for "premium" service from your ISP/telco.
I hope and pray that they all are booted from office.
to the thieves.
The problems originally stated by internet content providers is that ISPs/telcos will throttle access to sites that don't pay a fee (ransom) to the ISP/telco for more bandwidth. A charge that the telcos do not dispute.
The problem here is that the ISPs/telcos are already charging the end users (you and me) for that bandwidth for our internet connections.
But, under this legislation, your access speeds to certain sites will depend on the site's ability to pay more money to the ISP/telcom than a competing site.
So just what is your money paying for? If we can't control the bandwidth why should we be charged for it?
This is one of the most ignorant things the Republicans have done so far.
I hope and pray that they all are booted from office. And relegated to no internet access.
They shouldn't even use something they understand so poorly.
Governing the activities of companies and individuals with regards to the Internet through federal legislation, on the other hand, IS EXACTLY what you SHOULD be fearing. Only when the government passes LAWS governing the Internet can you be ASSURED that "the internet tha tyou knew is over."
Otherwise... its just the Internet as usual.
Its a shame, but it appears as though you anti-Republican political position has clouded your understanding of government regulation.
This is a joke, how many Politicians do you think really understand what's at stake here?
Four DemocRATs voted against it, it was defeated 23 to 8 (or "8 - 23" as the biased article says) - so why is it that "Republicans" defeated it?
The committee then voted 27 - 4 to pass the bill without the amendment. Hardly a "party line" vote.
Looks like the NY Times or Dan Rather's CBS News wrote this article for CNet straight from the DNC daily fax.
BTW, the Internet as is represents the free flow of ideas, which is the backbone of democracy. Anyone who supports a tiered system is essentially backing a plan for control over ideas.
All committees and subcommittees are republican controlled. Part of the benefit of having a decent majority in the house.
Thanks for your comments.
Only 1 Dem broke ranks and 4 Repubs broke ranks on the Markey amendment, meaning something like 7/8 of the Democrats supported and 22/26 of the Republicans opposed. Those are very close to complete party-line votes.
As for the final bill, you're right that the vote total was not as partisan -- but the final bill dealt with far more than Net neutrality such as return to local franchising if cable competition ceases so it's not really terribly relevant to our story. (The Dems may have voted for it for tactical reasons or because they liked the *OTHER* cable franchising portions of the bill more than they disliked the Net neutrality sections.)
Put another way, Fooey, we correctly focused on the litmus test on NN. The other vote was much more muddled on issues unrelated to NN.
But thanks for asking, Fooey.
And also note, I live in San Antonio, and a Democratic Representative shamefully voted against the amendment. See this post to see how much money he's recieved from the telcos.
intelligent discussion of IT issues. Today, the board's filled with
freepers. Go away, because it's very apparent you don't even
understand the issues.
Net neutrality is an EXCELLENT idea if only because a tiered
internet at Verizon's discretion is a HORRIBLE idea. I've studied
this compulsively for about a year now, and well over 9 out of 10
people (other than telco companies) in the tech industry thinks
net neutrality regulation is the only thing that will keep
broadband companies from reshaping the internet to fit their
dreams. (The other 1/10, e.g. Ed Felten, is generally undecided
at worst.)
Ask the people who built the internet and their rightful
descendants, and they will tell you consistently: Were it not for
common carrier regulations that prevented phone companies
from levying these sorts of tolls on dialup access that they'd love
to levy on broadband packets, the internet as we know it never
would have gotten off the ground.
Go back to your own boards, you right wing hacks, until and
unless you grow some tech and/or tech law credentials. You're
only here b/c the word "Republican" is in the headline.
The problem us "Right Wing Hacks" have with CNet is all of their politically related articles are handled by Declan McCullagh, who is a left wing hack. To him Republicans are always wrong and evil. This article is another example of it.
I'm against a tiered internet and network providers double-charging the major web sites for their bandwidth. But providers like Verizon do have some rights in regards to how they can operate their networks. As is stated in the article, the democrats' proposed bill would most likely severly limit their ability to give their own video services priority. Why shouldn't they be able to do that?
"Go back to your own boards, you right wing hacks, until and unless you grow some tech and/or tech law credentials. You're only here b/c the word "Republican" is in the headline."
No, I read news.com daily. It's my homepage at work and at home. But we hacks are sorry, we'll try and let this site be a left-wing echo chamber. That's always better, isn't it?
"I've studied this compulsively for about a year now"
Seek help.
reaction to support the neoliberal party line is helping to kill
perhaps the greatest technology that has been invented in the
last 30 years.
Several Republican voters, activists, and members of Congress
(esp. in the Senate) are quite respectable people; many of this
subset are also willing to acknowledge that a broadband market
feature 2 or fewer competitors in most regions is not exactly
what Adam Smith had in mind.
Look abroad for innovation.
The Internet2 backbone proves that, with sufficient bandwidth, best-effort packet delivery is more than sufficient. And one of the inventors of TCP/IP, Bob Kahn, is on record as saying -- essentially -- that if you tier the Internet, well, you don't have the Internet. I think I'd go with Kahn -- rather than pointy-headed bosses at the telcos on this one.
Cisco's Service Exchange Framework (SEF) -- being pitched to the carriers -- is highly ominous in what it proposes.
Bottom line: Google, Skype, Vonage, Digg... all of these businesses (and many more) created value where none existed. They did so by building layers 4-7 applications.
Adding tollbooths and prioritization gates to the Internet subtracts value.
If the telcos can't make their business model work to compete with cable companies: tough s**t. Find a business model -- one that hopefully creates value -- that actually does work.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2006/02/end-of-internet-another-fantastic-deal.html
company produces web audio and video using technologies like
Quicktime and Flash. Building these services for the web has
become increasingly difficult, especially when it comes to Mobile
Web, to develop application for.
This is due to Companies like Verizon and T-Mobile, who
already regulate how content is served from a Mobile Web
standpoint. There able to send video and audio over there local
servers and networks, but when I want to create some mobile
video or audio it is impossible. This is in fact due to services like
Verizon and T-Mobil who know that mobile services like video
and audio are going to be big money. Do you think that
Tech01.net can get into this real very easily? The answer is NO!
So now you want to make it readily available for these very
companies as well as the Microsoft's, and Yahoo's and Google's,
from allowing the little man (Tech01.net) to try to make a living
in this digital world using Web Video and Audio.
By allowing these companies to control the content and how it is
delivered on a World Wide Web basis is WRONG! The only thing
that should be considered for control and issue is the DNS
system as well as the Domain Name Registrations service.
Although ICANN has done a good job up until this point it's well
known that it's services are very politically motivated.
There does need to be some control on the web, control by a
figure that is recognized as one that could inflict force upon
those that don't abide by simple set rules.
Those rules need only govern a small, unnoticed by most,
portion of the web. The DNS system as a whole needs to be
regulated first and foremost. A short following of rules for ISP's
to aid in capture of Hackers as well as spammer's and phisher's
would also be added.
That's it, that would be enough government to make us feel
safe; yet not enough government to be publicly intrusive to a
venture like the web.
I get a sense of Web sercurity, you get a sense of web
security ,and the rest we "LEAVE ALONE"!
~Justin
I don't care what party you're from; backing AT&T, which long ago ceased to be a growth industry player, over Google, Microsoft, eBay and the myriad of other real growth industry players is stupid.
Japan and S. Korea have over 30x the population density that we do. So, running a mile of fiber will pass 30x as many people and is effectively 30x more profitable for the builder. In places where our population density is similar, our broadband success is similar.
The US is deploying a lot of new fiber, and we should not deter it by telling the builders what they can and cannot do with their pipes. Nobody is throttling anyone, it simply hasn't happened. Let's not pass speculative laws for crimes that don't exist.
The more it costs for people to provide content for users in the internet, the less content we will have. The real plan? Simple, squeeze out the little guy so only corporations exist in the internet.
The internet used to be a large library of information. Now, it's becoming the world's largest shopping mall.
Robert
- Wow... Where Do I Begin?
- by rabidsquirrel April 6, 2006 12:09 PM PDT
- Telcos don't have your best interests at heart. They don't even have 'hearts'... They have wallets/coffers. Their only short sighted desire is to swell their coffers.
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (81 Comments)Why build additional capacity when they can squeeze more money out of the existing pipes?
What I really don't 'get' is that people still have this 'faith' that their government or service provider (Telco Co) has their best interest at heart! Republicans seem to have more of this 'faith' than the rest.
I suggest that you vote against ANYONE that voted down this bill, for they are in bed with Telcos (Their votes are being 'bought'), they don't understand what's at stake, and/or they are just plain stupid.
"But I'm a software/web developer, and I really know what I'm talking about..."
You know how many times I've heard this from a developer, as his/her new application is crashing parts of our network?
"But Verizon just wants to be able to pump video to your cell phone! They just want to be our 'friends'! Why would anyone be against that?!"
Guess what? The people pushing this bill aren't against 'that'. Telcos can already do this; all they have to do is build out THEIR network that they already have FULL CONTROL over and OWN... Their Wireless Network, folks, is back-ended with their In-house IP Network - where all their other 'services' already reside. This is the same process they already undergo when they add new 'features' to attract new customers. So in the sense of Wireless companies somehow not being able to deliver advanced services to their customers if this Bill passed is purely a lie.
And what, next your're going to say that the Baby Bells don't have the 'will' or the funding to light some dark fiber or add bandwidth to enable any services that they want to provide to their customers? Is that not one of their core competancies? If it isn't, then they deserve to sink.
This is an attempt by the Telcos (Baby Bells mostly) to legislate/levy a tax on the content (Google, Yahoo, M$, Uncle Bob's) ~ Pure and simple. And If they do get away with buying legislative permission to do this, I sincerely doubt that you will even see a performance increase in regards to these 'enhanced' services if they are left unchecked.
Wireless Telecomm is killing the traditional Baby Bell business model. They are now flailing about in the areas of IP transport in an attempt to figure out business model (IPTV, VoIP, etc). The path of least resistance (Unfortunately) is to buy legislature (Via PAC donations, lobbiests, etc) that gives them the ability to strangle competetion on their networks (Networks that were founded and built when they were Ma Bell/Monopoly; the same networks that grew under the baby bells regional monopolies).
This is very bad, people. You cannot have faith that a business will simply 'Do the right thing' and that unregulated market (Free) will benefit everyone and govern itself (Enron). The business animals at the top of that market food chain will do everything in their power to ensure their 'food' supply - killing off or stiffling their competition. We will then cease to be 'consumers' for these top predators- Um, I meant 'businesses' - and we will be more like 'livestock' to them...
And for the guy critisizing the other commenter for following this issue 'closely over the last year' - Lighten up! This is an important issue. I'm glad that someone is following it closely b/c most Ammuricuns don't seem to have a clue about it, including the ones that matter most - our elected(?) leaders. The Intarweb is tied directly to our economy now and this relationship will become more intertwined in the future.
If more businesses would focus on 'growing the pie' rather than increasing the size of their respective slice, everyone would see more benefit. Growing this particular pie effectively grows our GDP. The Intarweb is what military folks would call a 'force multiplier' for our economy/country.
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