September 7, 2004 4:00 AM PDT

Perspective: RFID tags: The people say no

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RFID tags: The people say no
When it comes to radio frequency identification tags for humans, the people have spoken.

They hate it.

CNET News.com recently ran a report on companies with technologies that involve implanting RFID chips under people's skin or inside a bracelet.

The issue has united people with fairly strong religious beliefs and libertarian privacy advocates.
Advocates say the tags could help paramedics deliver medical help to people in the field, reduce prison violence or give police a way to track victims of kidnapping, a major problem in Latin America.

Even Steve Wozniak, the lovable lug of technology, is promoting human tracking in technology developed by his Wheels of Zeus start-up.

Nearly every reader who wrote News.com about the story expressed outrage and disdain.

"I couldn't help but notice that one of the most effective uses for the RFID tags on humans was in a prison setting--which is exactly what society in general would become, if this particular technology were mandated somehow," Harold Davis of Syracuse, N.Y., wrote.

The fear that the technology will enable governments to keep tabs on everyone was the concern raised most often. Hypothetically, law enforcement agencies or even private security companies will be able to track where you've been, with whom you associate and what you own with this technology. Imagine a semiretired senior citizen in a rented maroon blazer knowing everything about your day.

Worse, that person could begin to bombard you (or at least your cell phone) with ads or messages.

"What can transmit signals may also be capable of receiving signals from a central computer. Now there's something to think about, eh?" a News.com reader named Max wrote from the United Kingdom. "This biochip project has been in the pipeline for decades. It is now about to bear fruit, to the detriment of all free-thinking people."

A large number of letters also asserted that human RFID tags are a demonic tool. Several pointed out that in the Bible, Revelations 13:16-17 read: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

A few anatomical inconsistencies aside, the description is kind of close. On top of this, a beach resort in Spain does in fact use implanted RFID tags as part of a payment system.

"When our society reaches the point that credit cards can easily be faked, look for a push to implant a chip that will take over our trade institutions," reader Jeff Phelps wrote.

A large number of letters also asserted that human RFID tags are a demonic tool.
"I can assure you the resistance to this will be very strong from Christians...You will see tens of millions refuse this chip, even when it means great personal suffering will ensue."

To top it off, others noted that even the so-called advantages are minor at best.

"What if I want to go to Wal-Mart? I get a basket, get the stuff I need and literally walk out. Oh! Slow down, beating heart," Bob Cowger of Poteet, Texas, wrote. "Or I go to the local library. Pick what I want from the shelves. Walk out the door with everything being okayed by the computer system because I have MY RFID CHIP implanted. Oh! Joy!"

As for kidnap protection, Cowger predicted that RFID tags will send a signal to police, who will pursue kidnappers, who in turn will toss the victim on the freeway. As a consolation, the paramedics would have known what medicines not to give the deceased victim.

The tenor of the debate indicates a few harsh realities for those promoting this technology, a list that includes Royal Philips Electronics, IBM, Intel, Wal-Mart Stores and the technology ministries of Japan and South Korea.

For one thing, this is going to be one long, ugly, uphill battle. The issue has united people with fairly strong religious beliefs and libertarian privacy advocates. That doesn't happen often.

On the other hand, the relationship between consumers and industry isn't even close to a crisis point. At the turn of the last century, corporate leaders often faced assassination attempts, and striking factory employees sometimes got shot. Try to double-park in front of, or across the street from, an office of J.P. Morgan Chase. Private security officers will immediately shuffle you away, the legacy of a 1920 bombing at the financial institution's New York offices.

Many wrote to say they fear that the tracking technology will be exploited to monitor our private lives--but that won't likely happen. Governments and companies won't have the time or energy to sift through all that data. Even if they do, what will they figure out? That car thieves are among the most loyal consumers of Sunny Delight?

On a gut level, I think that much of the antagonism against the technology is rooted in a general distrust of large institutions. Anyone who has been stuck on hold when phoning for help knows that the standard of customer service continues to plummet.

But in the end, people distrust RFID, I believe, because it forces people to get tagged like a circus bear so that an already overpaid executive can obtain a bonus for cutting costs. If companies want to win the public over to this technology, they are going to have to be the ones jumping through hoops.

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Michael Kanellos is editor at large at CNET News.com, where he covers hardware, research and development, start-ups and the tech industry overseas. He has worked as an attorney, travel writer and sidewalk hawker for a time share resort, among other occupations.

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you are so naive and wrong. gov't will track everything they can
Because this world has "changed" forever by terrorist events of the past few years, the gov't is using a heavy hand in pulling private databases from any source that is freely willing to do so. Potential abuse is high. Big Brother is a reality.

Before you go ahead and egg on corporate types to "jump through hoops" to convince consumers into using RFID, do some research and ask why consumers are not so trusting. Would *you* be willing to put a RFID tag under your skin?

Visit here for a start:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.nocards.org/" target="_newWindow">http://www.nocards.org/</a>
Posted by (1 comment )
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Speaking from experience...
(as a developer that built a system that did exactly this for the purpose of tax enforcement) separate data file integration sure makes catching up with businesses that don't file for license or turn in their sales tax a lot easier. ;o)

(that work was done while employed at a private company that contracted with local and county agencies)
Posted by (14 comments )
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Hopefully government will be exposed before RFID becomes a bitch!
Big Brother don't need your permission to shove a chip under your skin, they can order doctors to do it while you are being operated on for something. And if you want to have someone in the room as a witness, forget it because they can be thrown out while you're unconcious and throw the gag rule at them.

You want a solution? Vote Libertarian and join them in the fight for the right to manage your own body!!!
Posted by casper2004 (267 comments )
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Prison Planet?
Government won't need to sift through all the data to find out something. All they have to do is punch in a name and that will be all she wrote.
Posted by casper2004 (267 comments )
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You'd be surprised to know that the government invented the terrorist excuse long before the trade center. The patriot act was written long before the attack on 911. More than that, war #3 will leave americans desperate for the dumb chip like a welfare mother who sells foodstamps for crack. Or signing away your bill of rights as a free man to become a prisoner to have a place to sleep to get out of homelessness. Warnings are found in Scripture. Jesus won't come back until His people take a stand in faith and the whole world will go through suffering. Christians are not the teachers pet where scripture is concerned.
Posted by 1chipchop7 (3 comments )
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Seriously.....
If you are worried about the gov't finding out how much sugar you put on your cornflakes etc.. You're suffering from delusions of granduer. We are all equally insignificant, they couldn't care less about you or what you're doing. The gov't can't even keep track of people visiting this country and you're worried about some mystical 'big brother'. This is the kind of nonsense people used to spout off when they implemented SSNs, and any other kind of id. The supreme court has already ruled you don't have a right to not identify yourself to police. Besides, there are all kinds of benefits to this technology. Imagine how easy crimes against property would solved (which most never are now)... that goes for all crimes. Its like DNA... It can prove or disprove you were the villian.

To the religious nuts who think its the 'mark of the beast'. I just say this... don't you think maybe you're thinking alittle too much of yourself too? I mean, do you really think you know the will of god? Who are you to say what God meant? The idea that you do know, that you can interpret his message better... or worse that you can see god's prophecies and some how are so superhuman that you can prevent them from happening... prevent gods will... that you're opinion reigns supreme because everyone else is wrong cause you know what god meant... doesn't that sound a little crazy? I think if I was god, I wouldn't like a bunch of people who think they know my mind jumping up and saying things in my name.... But then again, I don't pretend to know gods mind or opinion on anything. I'm just a man, how could I.
Posted by cm6096 (21 comments )
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Fools like you...
will be first against the wall when our freedom disappears. Ever heard the phrase 'the price of freedom is eternal vigilance'? The fact that the cops can already demand an ID for no reason should scare the hell out of you. I'm an atheist but even I know that you completely misinterpreted the revelations thing. Maybe you should make some attempt to educate yourself before it's too late?
Posted by Michael Grogan (308 comments )
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It's just a number...
So why desn't everyone just give me their SSN and credit card number? Oh! What about your cell phone number? Can I have it too?

What? that's not relevant?

Okay, well then why not turn on the unique ID number on your Pentium Processor?

Why was there so much fuss when M$ was gathering private information at the Windows update site? Your OS serial is just a number, after all and M$ would never track you or the software on your computer.

Why did our founding fathers think that the "...right to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures..." was so important?

Gadzooks! Have you no vision?

Imagine walking into walmart and your rfid implant identifies you. You grab a "Smartcart" and it greets you by name and compliments you on the blouse that you bought last month. It then suggests that perhaps you need some milk since you purchased your last gallon nearly a week ago. While you trolly around, the "smartcart" also informs you that you could have saved nearly $20 by buying the shoes that you're wearing at Wal-Mart instead of Payless. And finally, when you head towards the checkout it politely reminds you that you may be needing a box of tampons soon since "that time of month" is due and the last box you bought was over two months ago.

So you head to the local bar and buy a round of drinks for the girls. After an hour of gossip and laughs you get in your car and it informs you that it will not start - you purchased too many drinks and may be legally intoxicated -- please blow into the breathalyzer.

Once you pass your OnStar sobrity test you drive home listening to XFM commercials specially tailored to your social level, spending habits and economic means.

Isn't life grand?
Posted by cuirithir (1 comment )
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Dude God is not super human. He is super GOD. You are worried that we are right, because that would mean you would have to take God seriously about the rest of his WORD
Posted by 1chipchop7 (3 comments )
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You're so trusting. I find it amusing to the level that you are willing to believe that the Govt (any Govt) would have ONLY honorable purposes in putting technological chips into their subjects. "Religious nuts... do you think you know the will of God?" Sounds EXACTLY like Satan in the garden "Did God say you'll really die? How can you be sure, Adam?" You were quoting him. I FIND THAT AMUSING. Like, you're the religious nut. lol. Anyway, You're assuming that every corporate entity that empowers the Uber-rich that finances and has A LOT of controlling interest in every urban country has ONLY beneficial purposes in exacting this ULTIMATE tariff including your soul, body, mind, person, will. and that price you are obviously getting your rocks off at the thought of paying to someone who you will never see, know and could give a rats ass if you live or die, sink or swim. I find your naivity beyond amusing. Here, sign over your car, home, children to somebody- some corporate entity. Trust them. By all means. You are the perfect slave in training. You are the perfect rat in a maze. If you can still think, think about this in a human perspective, instead of a God perspective. You take a chip (rfid), and you are THEIRS. Their little pawn to use at their disposal. Forget driving, going wherever you want. They can turn your chip on and off whenever they want. IT's all just a game to them. Your life............ Their monopoly board. Don't be skeptical. Why should you. Big brother or whatever the heck you want to call it will care for you like your Mother. YEAH, RIGHT, I BUY THAT!!!! NEVER.
Posted by Wendyscnet (3 comments )
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Private Industry Has More Power
People are worried about the official Government organizations knowing about them and tracking them - however the Government has rules that it does enforce on itself what it can do and the rules can be changed - true - but at least people will know about them (at least 99% of them anyway).
Private companies have NO SUCH restrictions. When the government wants information who does it goes to get it? Private firms who can share any and all data to ANYONE who is willing to pay for it.
Privacy statements? They can - and are - written to allow the company to do what it wants. And it can be changed at any time without notice - just like many contracts - the power is in the company and not people. Unless you boycot and that only works for items you can live without.
Look at some high profile cases - Okahoma city bombing as an example - they were solved not with Government sources but PRIVATE security cameras looking over streets, tracking information collected by firms which can do what they want with it that data. Want a credit report do you go to the Federal / State / Local government to get it? no, private firms control the data on you and you have to usually pay to see it (except in certain cases) and if something is wrong you have virtually no recourse at all since they just 'collect the facts as reported to them' and are in no way responsible on how those 'facts' are used by people who get those reports.
Next time you shop at Wal-Mart wave to the video cameras since they can do what they want with those images of you, your car license plate and sell that data of you shopping habits, type of car you drive to anyone they want - cause you are on private land and every Government rule on sharing information does not apply to private companies.

When government contacts out to 3rd parties it usually means those companies own the data - not the Government.
Posted by taphilo-2003685639374287843630 (130 comments )
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It Will Take Something Radical -- A 9/11 on a much larger scale...
... to get people to volunteer for this.

What that involves is anyone's guess. World-wide famine?... war... perhaps involving nuclear weapons? I'll repeat from my post on the previous article, I am a fan of the idea of a mass alien abduction (that would be sufficient to throw the markets and the world into chaos).

Whatever it takes... suffice it to say, it hasn't happened yet. But... mark *my* words... when it does, people *will* line up to get these things 'cause it will make perfect sense then.
=o/

The reader *is* looking at the future.
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Human puppets don't need to be strung.
Yes, too many americans are suckers. They have proven it over and over again with the way they let government manipulate their brain. The biggest problem is television because many of us mimic what it shows and government build dictatorships by that alone.
Posted by casper2004 (267 comments )
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Passive Inductive Electromagnetic Identification Device
Just thought I'd post this. The original article did not call the items by their proper and patented name.

There *will* be medical implications to these devices in human bodies, but such implications will not be known before the devices are implemented because the symptoms will only show up over a prolonged period of excessive daily use (no such test data currently available).
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Here's some gas for the fire...
for the "mark of the beast" camp. =o)

Do this. Browse to here:

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm" target="_newWindow">http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm</a>

Then search for either of these numbers:

5166676
6466634

Then let the reader take note that the middle three numbers in each is: 666 =o)

(heh... no one ever said the folks down at the patent office were particularly brilliant)

;o)
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what!!!!!!!
Wow! Thank you for posting this. I am writing a college paper about the RFID tags, this will be very helpful at making my point!
Posted by fireice (1 comment )
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power corrupts
Why do people keep forgetting the first rule of greed and power? Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Knowledge is power. Government is not some diety. Government is us or used to be us, the people. People abuse power.
Like the gun owners code. "They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers."

They can plant that chip in my cold dead body. Anyone who thinks government and others won't abuse that knowledge needs to buy my ocean front property here in Oklahoma. I'll toss in the Brooklyn Bridge for free.
Posted by BarbieLee (12 comments )
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Government Bureaucrats will misuse RFID, not Wal-Mart Checkout Clerks
The people and Phil Donahue say, NO to RFID, Wal-Mart and Homeland Security say, YES.

The organizational entity to fear regarding RFID is Government Bureaucrats, not Checkout Clerks at Wal-Mart.

Private industry only wants your money in trade for goods or services. They want to keep you happy, productive and voluntarily spending more of your hard earned money on stuff at their establishment, to make them more profitable. If they want even more of your money, they must build a better mouse trap, tech toy or run a Blue-Lite Special.

The Government, on the other hand, could care less about profitability, productivity or efficiency, yours or theirs. They dont care if youre happy or productive. Regarding your money, you must involuntarily spend your hard earned money on taxes so the Government can use it to buy stuff, while making zero-profit for you and them. If they want even more of your money, they just raise your taxes some more.

Private Industry doesnt have designs on your liberty, the Government does. Wal-Mart only wants to RFID tag merchandise to better serve you, so they can make more money. Uncle Sam wants to tag &#38; bag everything and everyone, in their Global Fight Against Terrorism, to better serve their Bureaucrats at the 24/7/365 tracking and monitoring of your financial transactions and movement across the planet.
Posted by Catgic (106 comments )
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good article but ...
A good article generally, but there's one flaw. Author says, "Government can't track everyone. So worrying about that is paranoid" (my paraphrase). This is wrong for 3 reasons:
1) Gov't doesn't need to track everyone in order to control everyone. They just need to show that they can track anyone that they care to track, and occasionally make examples of people who get out of line. FEAR is what controls everyone. This is quite evident from the history of all totalitarian states. Even in the USA, you can see the effect whenever the police set up a speed trap. Why does everyone immediately go from flagrant speeding to 10 mph below the limit? After all, clearly the police can only catch a very few speeders, so any one driver's risk of getting a ticket is low. Yet everyone slows down!
2) Computers can do much of the tracking and penalizing, so that the burden on gov't employees is not nearly as large as the author seems to think. Consider how computers with cameras have made it so easy for cities to rake in the money from speeders and red light runners. Now just imagine heartless computers monitoring your every move like that, and automatically penalizing you for whatever the gov't considers an infraction. And, to tie this in with point #1, consider that fake cameras do almost as good of a job at behavior modification as real cameras.
3) Once the totalitarian state is established, the gov't doesn't even have to do most of the monitoring, because people monitor each other. I don't know why people cooperate with the oppressor like that, but it is a proven historical fact. So RFID tracking of people, even supplemented with computers, is really only a catalyst to bring about the ultimate goal: a perverse corruption of our ideas of freedom.
Posted by dmm (336 comments )
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Operational Analysis
Government tracks for one purpose and private companies track for another.

One bit of data on you - when there is nothing else to corelate with - is meaningless. 10 million bits of identical data with 10 million other non-corelating data is also meaningless. But if 7 million other people have loads of information on them then it can be infered that you are likely to be like them since you too have that single bit of data associated with you as you get RFID'd.

RFID Wal-Mart tracking in the supply train makes them more efficient by taking less time to have a person physically count stuff as it moves along thus saving personnel costs and time from manufacture to customer purchase.

Tracking what you bought if you paid cash or a credit right now is possible since every item is bar coded and scanned.

RFID embedded items can be read as you walk around, transmit what you have to stations, and because of the power of statistics, look up in their database determine that people who had x and x in their cart usually got Y also then market to you Y as you walk along the aisle or at the checkout stand.

Tie this to a name and over time they have can have a very detailed knowedge base of what a person uses and thereby does.

What will do they with this data? market to you, sell the data to others (either with or without your name, remember they can make up their own rules as what to do with the data, Government rules only concern Government, not private collection of data).

Now, the Government can then go to a court and get them to give THEM the data on you individually, or a group of people, or area. They are not collecting the data at that point but just using it legally to solve X.

Once RFID becomes prevalent everywhere, then it opens up a lot of other seen and un-foreseen avenues both legal, illegal, and unintended possibilites of tracking items and people.

As menioned, power corrups. RFID gives any company - or person - a lot of power to collect data and use it as they see fit to employ that data.

A private security company could install RDID readers all over a town in storefronts - private land - and as people walk by with active RFIDs in their possesion track their every move legally. Reason - someone steals something from a store. With RFID they can track it instantly as to where it is and private security people can then go there and hold the people who have the stolen RFID until the government police arrive.

Go to Disneyland, you get a RFID pass that you must use purchase stuff as you go around and you are instantly tracked. They can then see how people move around and adjust their rides, pavilions etc to steer people toward what they want you to go and see - and spend at. Private land they can do that.

The possibilities are endless.

That is what I, and others, look at seeing as happenning once people accept RFIDs in everything as "normal" and harmless.

Tom Philo
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.taphilo.com/" target="_newWindow">http://www.taphilo.com/</a>
Posted by taphilo-2003685639374287843630 (130 comments )
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Quite unnecessary, but will happen anyway
All of the criticisms are valid enough: RFID tags on humans are unnecessary, and potentially an intrusion on privacy, albeit rather small since we use credit cards everywhere, not to mention cell phones. It may even be the Mark of the Beast to boot. But it will happen anyway. All of the over-hype of terrorism (a rather small threat at the moment) will cause people at some point to demand monitoring of all residents. Especially after the first rogue nuke goes off.
Posted by Jim1900 (807 comments )
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baja beach
regarding your uneasyness regarding the beach resort in Spain that uses implanted RFID tags as part of a payment system

after peeking at the site (lame) i would like to am pleased to soothe you, just providing some tips in the spanish language.

it is rather a "virtual beach" or a club, with some gay flavour, i'd dare to say

the chip is implanted to voluntary people who want to get into the "vips lounge" (AIDS prevention and tracking, i guess)

i can't see any straight relation to those fightening orwell scenarios
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RFID will be moot
Forget about resisting bar codes or RFID tags on humans. Thanks to huge databases and continued work on the human genome project, soon your body's unique DNA will be the only identifier needed by the government and large corporations. Place your hand on the DNA scanner and a computer pulls up all your information, accounts, criminal record, buying preferences,medical records-- everything about you. It's coming, believe me. And thanks to fear mongering about terrorists and 9/11, resistance is futile. We have to stop the terrorists, right? And what do you have to hide anyway...

Impossible, you say? Just wait, the technology will develop. As for legal or moral issues, look at the SS#. It wasn't supposed to be a universal identifier. In fact, it's use as a universal ideantifier was initially forbidden except for use in the Social Security program. Now you can't get a bank account, a job, medical care, a phone or many other of life's necessities without revealing your number.

So you're going to refuse to be barcoded, RFID chipped or genetically scanned? Have fun making your moral stand. In the end, though, it will only make life difficult for you and your family and then you'll give in anyway. Just like everone already has on the SS#.

And the database, universally available over the Internet, will know everything about you except what you keep hidden in your heart and close to your soul.
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Forget about resisting anything then. Why don't you let your next door neighbor walk into your home and f** your wife/ GF? Resistance is futile, you say, but America was BORN on resistance. Your argument has serious flaws. Yea, govt can analyze dna- obviously. But, as of yet I know of no 'dna scanners', but there are scientific chemicals that map dna. There are iris, fingerprint, biometric, etc. DNA is an exact fingerprint. But, it is no external chip. If they want dna- they've already got it. They want more. They want theoretical slaves. You obviously think it's inevitable to become one, so why don't you go to a third world country and let someone sell you into slavery. I'm not actually saying that to be hateful, I'm trying to stir you up to reanalyze the facts. It is not inevitable unless we assent to it. Which I never will. There are people on drugs that already are slaves to heroin or meth. They are easy targets for a govt takeover of the mind. What's your excuse?
Posted by Wendyscnet (3 comments )
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RFID can Respect Privacy and Benefits consumers
www.RespectRFID.com tags will not violate privacy. The tag system:

1) Will not be readable after the item is sold.*
Customer can, however, request the tag be readable after sale, to possibly expedite return.

2 Will not contain information to identify the individual, product, store, or date of purchase.*
RespectRFID tag contains only an ID number.

3)Will not track a customer.
The package is tagged, not the customer.

4)Will not enable a store to identify customers paying with cash.
Tagging does not, however, prevent stores obtaining customer information from credit or loyalty cards.

5)Will not save photos of shoppers  it saves images only of shoplifters.
We will have a legal injunction against users who keep videos of non-shoplifters.

6) Will not allow a store to instantaneously show advertisements based on customer preferences.
We will have a legal injunction against users who have this type of advertising.

The benefits of RespectRFID to the retail customer beyond respecting privacy, can include:

1)Provides the customer with product price and availability information before going to a store (via web).

2)Provides the customer with a way to find items in the store,
especially customers who are handicapped.**

3)Provides the customer with a way to get detailed product information,
especially for customers more comfortable with a language other than English.**

4)Provides the customer with lower prices,
due to significant reduction in shoplifting and other retailer costs.

5)Provides the customer with more direct access to products in a store. Theft prevention eliminates the need for locked cabinets, etc.

6) Provides the customer with safer products.
RespectRFID reduces counterfeited, contaminated, and past-date products.

7) Provides the customer with the option of ordering over the web or telephone and have the items picked up a closer location or delivered to his home.

* While we have been unable to design a useable killable tag , we believe that the associated privacy concerns are covered by items # 1, 2, and 3 in the first list

** Uses RespectRFID cyberclerk function: www.Respectrfid.com/Ref/cyber_clerk.htm
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The Indirect Tracking and Analysis
Voluntary safeguards are only as good as people who are willing to voluntary abide by the rules.

Criminials, by definition, do not abide by rules so they have no need to follow any rules - or any laws for that matter - on what they do with RFID.

Your're right, RFID tracks packages. Just like the ability to find a cell phone signal only locates the cell phone and not the person using it - oh wait, they are holding it but since it only identifies the CELL PHONE there is no problem. Now apply this to an RFID that is not "turned off."

Once turned off can it again be turned on? Your statement seems to imply it can. Have not read if they can be dynamtically reset to act like a transponder again. (Which is what they really are, miniture IFF devices.)

You really wrote into every contract license that every store who uses any type of RFID cannot read items in a cart and use that collection of data to market inside their own store in real time?

That is surprising.

UPC codes went through some of these same fears and problems in the late 60s when first test marketed. The difference is that as a pure passive tracking system that requires direct physical interaction in order to be read there is less threat of tracking surreptitiously.

RFIDs can be read surreptitiously and thus provide a way to track people carrying items with RFIDs without them knowing it is where the fear that many people have.

People fear the Government, but the Government rarely has been able to implement a tracking system on its own. It has almost always adopted what the private sector companies first pioneered. Only in signal intelligence and photo analysis has any Government really been the leader due to war or fear of war.

Private companies have virtually no restrictions on what they can do with data collected. See my prior post.

In 20 years we will find out eh?
Posted by taphilo-2003685639374287843630 (130 comments )
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RFID can Respect Privacy and Benefits consumers Henry Lahore -- 10/19/04
Henry, Please understand that what you say is what SHOULD be the propper thing to do.
As histoey has shown when a power is in conflict with a different view to the norm, which is believed at the time then all out war is created using whatever means available at the time.
RFID tags are but one of the many weapons that WILL be used to put down any insurgencies, that will control the masses. Think about where we come from where were at and where were heading,
The future does contain if's and but's, it's not a very pretty or rosey picture.
Think off terminator, armageddon, end times,
and you,ll get the picture.
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People will beg for implantable chips
Don't doubt it. Think about supermarket 'club cards.' Reports of abuse of these marketing information-gathering devices were widespread, but does that keep people from playing along? No.

Supermarket club cards show that the general public is quite happy to give up detailed personal information, including buying habits and patterns, in exchange for a discount at the checkout counter.

Offer consumers a 5% discount on all purchases made through the implanted RFID chip, and they will line up for blocks to implanted...
Posted by Anatman (1 comment )
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I am scared that I have it. I know for sure I have something but is it the mark of the beast? No One Has the right to watch your every move. Faith is not by sight. No one needs to have that much control over you. I am watched 24-7. I am not sure why but this guy, who I mistook as a nice man at the time, put this camera in my eye that he himself invented. He acted like he liked me for a short while, he flirted to a married women! Only to hurt me. Him and his girlfriend teased me and hurt me so bad. It hurts to find out the truth the way I had to but it is better than to be decieved, because I thought he was an angel when he told me, (through crista's big mouth) what he saw of me everyday, how could I know? So deceptive, just like the anti-christ and false prophet performing miracles for everyone to see. For some reason I wanted to believe that his dreams, or visions were from God. God would never move his children to be so mislead, have their marriage suffer, and drift apart from Him. How can he call himself a Christian? I hope that what I have is not the mark, because the mark is fatter and goes in your hand and forehead. It is so invasive! No you really don't want any number of people spying on you. God should be the only one who watches you everywhere you go. My husband doesn't even see me this much!
Posted by 1chipchop7 (3 comments )
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Girlfriend, have you lost your mind. If your story is true (which I seriously doubt) why don't you go to the doctor and have the 'camera implanted in your eye' removed? Just cause some guy says that they can see you probably means that he installed himself as a 'super user' on your computer and you need to have your hard drive wiped clean. If someone is a super user they can control your computer from remote. They can also activate your webcam and watch you that way. Get a restraining order now. Please. If you're worried about the mark of the beast you don't have it. If you had it you'd be so dead inside , no thoughts of Jesus Christ would ever come. God bless you, and get some new people in your life, or just take your meds.
Posted by Wendyscnet (3 comments )
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the rfid is evil and will cause many misseries and hardship. it can also be hacked very easy ,even easier than u think , leaving u with disaster
Posted by charlie000111 (1 comment )
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it is harder to hack an RFID than it is to simply steal a credit card. someone would need to get within 1 foot of the person in question with the proper equipment and that is hard to disguise.
Posted by Bryan_Doyle (5 comments )
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These are all signs leading to the end times that the Bible prophesied. Please, watch this clip.

http://tommyswindow.com/phocadownload/english/an_ATM_card_under_your_skin.ppsx

Be not be deceived by what seems convenient and harmless!
Posted by endtimetrouble (2 comments )
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it will not be made a requirement to buy or sell. anyone would accept cash. they would have to buy the equipment to read the RFID and to make the necissary transactions.
Posted by Bryan_Doyle (5 comments )
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Are you people effing dumb? you can sit there & honestly say that the Gov'ment isnt trying to track everything you do? F*ck, you need to open your mind a little bit and notice whats really going on. Read up on Illuminati abit more, go read the book of revalation. It has all been told. You think that putting this stupid chip in your hand will make your life better & easier? no. its the gov'ments way of proving their point that they are powerful & can turn you into robots. You's are all just little puppets, followers. Of course they want to track you & keep record of everything you do, dont need to be a f*cking history teacher to know that. dont know why you's are saying that us Christians are stupid, if you want the chip then go ahead & get it, but dont come on here exploiting us Christians for being against it. A Gov'ment big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have. F*cking D!ckheads.
Posted by biancafatty (1 comment )
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please watch the language. also, only passive RFIDs would be publicly released and these would require recievers very close to the person and the quantity of recievers for passive RFIDs does not currently exist.
Posted by Bryan_Doyle (5 comments )
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Wow.. i cant believe what im reading. its all lies. the government could care less about paramedics, kidnappings, and prison outbreaks. this is just an excuse for them to implant one of these RFID chips into each and every one of us. and once they do we will be slaves. This is all part of there plan to execute New World Order.. if they havent already. some say martial law is already in effect. just because you dont hear about it on the news doesn't mean its not happening.
Posted by _Lost (2 comments )
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the people control the government. if they tried to enslave everyone we would overthrow them and institute a new government this is america after all.
Posted by Bryan_Doyle (5 comments )
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I have been researching the RFID chip for an upcoming article for my blog and I am so concerned with what I have found, that I am going to write and some observations.

Here we go:

If the government won't be monitoring us, because they so called 'don't have the time' then why the need to be so invasive? I have no problem with allowing the government to verify my ID. That doesn't bug me at all, as I am not committing a crime. I do have a problem when the government, which is run by corporate shills for companies such as MONSANTO, have access to information as to what I the individual eat. Companies have no right to know if Joe Blow eats bananas three times a week, or which brand he buys and where he buys it. If the goal is to have a paperless currency, the government will know who buys what and when. They won't care about Joe Blow, the want access to dissenters, people who question and people that oppose.

If I say anything negative against the government or how it is run, what stops a government from turning off my chip? Tampering with my supermarket? This chip is supposed to be in our hands, we must ask, why in our hands!? So we don't lose them?! So the corporations are guaranteed the best access to our behaviors. What gives them the right? I have read these things cause tumors, TUMORS, around the chip in some people. Not only that, ask the question if the government is so keen to know your behavior then does this chip have some way to manipulate it? Humans respond to electronic stimuli in different ways, we have no idea what this chip can actually do! I didn't sign up for this, and neither did anyone else!

Medic alert bracelets?! Remember those? People who have serious illnesses and the such should be wearing medic alert bracelets. There is no instance when people take these off, so why it is necessary to implant these chips into our hands?

They have gone way too far with this one. From my research the government have been planning this for years - and the introduction in my opinion, is very premature. What is the rush? I don't think anyone will buy into this and it just waking people up to the absolute control the government desires and has been unleashing on us.

Paperless currency, eh? Do the government really want people to stumble upon what is really going on? This is an excellent way to awakening the people; I see a massive backfire in the midst.

ORANGE
Posted by orangeaspossible (1 comment )
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I realize this article is not new, but I have just now read it and joined cnet. i also realize that mr. crowger is not in any likelihood to see this. never the less i would like to comment on some of th things he said. there are two types of RFIDs passive and active. passive has no power source save the local signal which would need to be within ONE FOOT of the person in question. the rfid uses the local signal's power to send the signal back. the active rfid has its own power source which would be too large to be implanted in a person through a hypodermic needle. these would have a larger range, yet the range would not be very wide. a passive rfid, which would be for public distribution would not be strong enough to send a signal to any reciever unless recievers are placed across every square foot. on the note of the kidnappers killing the kidnapped person because the police are tracking them is unrealistic. unless they had a scanner with the proper incription they would not know that the person had an rfid and could not detect the signal. furthermore on the note of religion, no longer crowger's words, they would not be required to buy or sell anything. anyone will accept payment in cash. cash is the base and it cannot bounce it cannot be denied and it cannot be misread. the RFIDs will not be the mark of the beast. just to be safe if anyone takes offense that was not my intention. i only wish for this information to be brought to light and taken into consideration. thank you for reading, before typing this i had not realized the length to which i would discuss this subject.
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