Powering cities on landfill waste

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Other processes for converting waste to fuels include ethanol, methane from trash and manure, as well as biodiesel from animal fats. Many of these techniques are being tested to operate at a commercial scale, as part of the clean, or green tech, investment run-up.

Using municipal solid waste as a feedstock hasn't yet taken off because in the past there wasn't much interest in alternative fuels and people underestimated the material handling requirements, Ze-gen's Davis said.

A treatment center in New Bedford will pay Ze-gen a "tipping fee" to take its construction debris, which would otherwise have to be hauled somewhere else. But Davis said the process would be cost-effective even if a waste-to-energy facility operator wasn't paid. It's also conceivable that facilities would have to pay for waste in the future.

The process, if successful, could also qualify for renewable-energy credits or be used to sell carbon offsets, said Flagship Ventures' Matheson.

"Since we're reducing the carbon footprint of incineration and landfill quite dramatically, we think the (facility) should qualify for carbon offsets," he said.

By the end of the year, Ze-gen should have an idea of how its plant is performing, including the quality of the syngas, which varies depending on the process. The modular design of the plant means it can increase production quickly, assuming sufficient capital, and can be used with different types of garbage.

"Given that gasification is proven at a chemical level...it is going to be the next big thing (in waste to energy)," Davis said. "It's just a question of seeing who does it most efficiently."

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ass
by mongoose13223 June 6, 2007 5:10 AM PDT
wouldnt that smell like ass
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Quality reporting...
by netman115167 June 6, 2007 6:14 AM PDT
I find the otherwise quality of the c|net news to be degraded by the frequent misuse of English and no editing to catch it. "cites" or sites?
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Only Construction Waste?
by cmk_78212 June 6, 2007 7:57 AM PDT
Can other forms of waste (paper, plastic, other chemicals) be used in addition to wooden waste at construction sites?

Also, how does this lower the carbon foot print. The same amount of carbon in the waste goes into the gas which gets burned and goes into the air, so how is this cleaner that simply burning the waste?
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PLASMA
by chris cicc June 6, 2007 11:05 AM PDT
what exactly is the point of this article? you talk about a company that is converting trash to energy but don't mention how it is doing it? shoddy reporting. it is PLASMA GASIFICATION technology that ATOMIZES the trash into the syngas which is then burned to spin turbines. this is state of the art technology that is only now being used in production environments, and which could one day soon eliminate all of the world's trash and nuclear waste (yes it can burn that too). CNET is about tech, so report about it!
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theoretically cleaner
by wylbur June 6, 2007 11:26 AM PDT
Until they actually build the plant and get figures on energy
consumed to make the molten metal bath and on the contents
of the plant's exhaust and any ungassified waste stream, we
really won't know if it is cleaner. A lot of energy goes into
gassification, so you may not have that much power to sell
because you are using part of the power generated to heat the
molten metal. If you end up with emmisions and minimal power
for sale, it could wind up worse than a high temperature burn
with good furnace air flow control and lots of exhaust scrubbers.
Let's wait for the numbers to come in before we say this is
cleaner and better.
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magma molten metal
by wylbur June 6, 2007 11:29 AM PDT
wasn't there a company in MA in the 90s called Magma Molten
Metal that tried this and failed?
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>>>"Powering cities on landfill waste"<<<
by Commander_Spock June 6, 2007 12:34 PM PDT
A very interesting article indeed; but, it would be good to see all the financial, economic and technical statements; also, the financial, economic and environmental impact on an international scale!
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So,....
by Commander_Spock June 6, 2007 2:37 PM PDT
... when is there going to be the worldwide summit on -- "Powering cities on landfill waste"?
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755
by shark12er June 6, 2007 8:06 PM PDT
Interesting, cool article, made me chuckle.

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What about thermophyllic digesters
by jamie.p.walsh June 6, 2007 8:26 PM PDT
http://news.com.com/Microgy+lands+deals+to+help+it+turn+cow+manure+into+natural+gas/2100-11395_3-6135099.html?tag=item
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