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Intel's own mini PC

A front view of Intel's Mac Mini-like home PC, which was unveiled at the Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco on Wednesday. The square, metallic-colored concept device is immediately reminiscent of the desktop computer Apple Computer introduced earlier this year. A remote rests atop the box.

Credit: Ina Fried

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Very Innovative
How do these people keep coming up with these great designs?

Oh, that's right, they just rip them off of Apple.

Apple, the WinTel industry's free design department.
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get your facts straight
Apple is NOT the first company to comeup with the mini concept and they dont deserve the innovator award for this. There were other companies before them.

Apple only deserves credit for the sleek appeal, nothing more

my 2 cents

srinivas
Posted by pinapala (3 comments )
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Very Innovative
How do these people keep coming up with these great designs?

Oh, that's right, they just rip them off of Apple.

Apple, the WinTel industry's free design department.
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get your facts straight
Apple is NOT the first company to comeup with the mini concept and they dont deserve the innovator award for this. There were other companies before them.

Apple only deserves credit for the sleek appeal, nothing more

my 2 cents

srinivas
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Not bad
I like the metal top as opposed to the off-white plastic of the
mini. This is thinner than the mini but its almost too thin for my
liking.
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Not bad
I like the metal top as opposed to the off-white plastic of the
mini. This is thinner than the mini but its almost too thin for my
liking.
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the cell phones are too big~~
Gladys Gu
Posted by flowergoo (3 comments )
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the cell phones are too big~~
Gladys Gu
Posted by flowergoo (3 comments )
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Another Copycat of Apple
Time for Apple to sue again like they did with emachines?
Posted by jthegonz (2 comments )
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Right...
Right Apple can file a law suite because they invented the small computer. Sorry but Timex already did it almost 20 years ago with the Timex Sinclair which was and I think still is the smallest working consumer available computer. So lets not talk about Apple being first with the small mini computer.

Besides the mini-mac is a joke. $500 and then you have to spend a $1000 or more to get the stuff you need to use it. Some deal.

Robert
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Let's get it started?
The Mac Mini is an original concept? Did we forget about Shuttle's mini barebones pc? not quit as small but the same concept. Now every computer company has a micro pc, including Apple.Never forget the company that made the sacrafice to develope the "mini" concept.
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Another Copycat of Apple
Time for Apple to sue again like they did with emachines?
Posted by jthegonz (2 comments )
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Right...
Right Apple can file a law suite because they invented the small computer. Sorry but Timex already did it almost 20 years ago with the Timex Sinclair which was and I think still is the smallest working consumer available computer. So lets not talk about Apple being first with the small mini computer.

Besides the mini-mac is a joke. $500 and then you have to spend a $1000 or more to get the stuff you need to use it. Some deal.

Robert
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Let's get it started?
The Mac Mini is an original concept? Did we forget about Shuttle's mini barebones pc? not quit as small but the same concept. Now every computer company has a micro pc, including Apple.Never forget the company that made the sacrafice to develope the "mini" concept.
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Apple wasn't the first company to use plastic!
That is usually my reply when hardcore mac fans are accusing
somebody of ripping Apple just because the make a pretty p.c.
But, in this case, what a blatant friggin' ripoff! Give me a break.
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Apple wasn't the first company to use plastic!
That is usually my reply when hardcore mac fans are accusing
somebody of ripping Apple just because the make a pretty p.c.
But, in this case, what a blatant friggin' ripoff! Give me a break.
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Intel [what] Inside?
Yes, it's a small enclosure. So, what are the specs?
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re: Intel [what] Inside
Well.... nothing yet.... its an empty box, just like all other factory-made pc's.... :)
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Intel [what] Inside?
Yes, it's a small enclosure. So, what are the specs?
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re: Intel [what] Inside
Well.... nothing yet.... its an empty box, just like all other factory-made pc's.... :)
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Such A Shame
I hope a big failure to this "original" product...!!!
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TAKE THE MINI CHALLENGE!!!!!!
well ok what i want to know is how exactly is this macintosh mini a "deal"

"Dont be fooled by the seemingly low price. The mini I want, with the larger hard drive, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, and 512 MB RAM, costs $803 from Apples online store. If you have to purchase a keyboard, mouse, and screen for your new mini, well, the cost can rapidly add up." -- lifted from cnet

so ok i have no monitor, no cheap keyboard, no mouse, and really what you're paying for is a computer with the following specs

ok this is the $500 system

1.25 GHz G4 CPU
167 MHz bus
256 MB of RAM (DDR, 333 MHz)
DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive (maximum speeds: 24X CD read; 24X CD-R write; 8X DVD read)
40 GB hard drive ( i cant find what speed the hard drive runs at, but i'd bet $100 it's not 7200 )
Radeon 9200 graphics controller (has 32 MB of dedicated RAM, supports 32 bits per pixel at 1920 x 1200) (yeah running at 1920x1200)
no legacy ports (not applicable to the Macintosh platform) [ HOW then are people supposed to hook up their current keyboard/mouse]
no open drive bays
no PCI slots (AirPort and Bluetooth can be added internally)


NOW for the $500 challenge!!!!!!

how low can you go to make a better PC than the specs above with no monitor, no burner, (but feel free to add any of these) and for an added challenge you can make it a shuttle PC for those that gripe about the size


here's my mock system

---Chaintech - K8T800&64-2800Combo
AMD 64 2800 and fan included with motherboard (so are the USB ports which apple advertises almost like they are something special hahaha)
$171

---Generic 512MB PC2700 DDR Memory
$51

---LINKWORLD LNK-3120D BABY ATX Case Front Dual USB with 300W P4 Power Supply
$21

---VISIONTEK ATI RADEON 9600 XT 128MB DDR
$135

---Seagate - ST380021A 7200RPM 80GB
$48

---NEC 16X DVD/40X CD ROM INTERNAL EIDE DRIVE
$20

that brings me to $446 - all prices include shipping costs and put it together with prices from www.pricewatch.com
from here i would say install some linux goodness on it and you still have $50 left over for whatever microsoft word or whatever you need in that respect

now me personally, i would MUCH rather have the system i threw together when put up against the specs for the mini
let me know what you think and
take the challenge today!!!
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Such A Shame
I hope a big failure to this "original" product...!!!
Posted by (2 comments )
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TAKE THE MINI CHALLENGE!!!!!!
well ok what i want to know is how exactly is this macintosh mini a "deal"

"Dont be fooled by the seemingly low price. The mini I want, with the larger hard drive, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, and 512 MB RAM, costs $803 from Apples online store. If you have to purchase a keyboard, mouse, and screen for your new mini, well, the cost can rapidly add up." -- lifted from cnet

so ok i have no monitor, no cheap keyboard, no mouse, and really what you're paying for is a computer with the following specs

ok this is the $500 system

1.25 GHz G4 CPU
167 MHz bus
256 MB of RAM (DDR, 333 MHz)
DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive (maximum speeds: 24X CD read; 24X CD-R write; 8X DVD read)
40 GB hard drive ( i cant find what speed the hard drive runs at, but i'd bet $100 it's not 7200 )
Radeon 9200 graphics controller (has 32 MB of dedicated RAM, supports 32 bits per pixel at 1920 x 1200) (yeah running at 1920x1200)
no legacy ports (not applicable to the Macintosh platform) [ HOW then are people supposed to hook up their current keyboard/mouse]
no open drive bays
no PCI slots (AirPort and Bluetooth can be added internally)


NOW for the $500 challenge!!!!!!

how low can you go to make a better PC than the specs above with no monitor, no burner, (but feel free to add any of these) and for an added challenge you can make it a shuttle PC for those that gripe about the size


here's my mock system

---Chaintech - K8T800&64-2800Combo
AMD 64 2800 and fan included with motherboard (so are the USB ports which apple advertises almost like they are something special hahaha)
$171

---Generic 512MB PC2700 DDR Memory
$51

---LINKWORLD LNK-3120D BABY ATX Case Front Dual USB with 300W P4 Power Supply
$21

---VISIONTEK ATI RADEON 9600 XT 128MB DDR
$135

---Seagate - ST380021A 7200RPM 80GB
$48

---NEC 16X DVD/40X CD ROM INTERNAL EIDE DRIVE
$20

that brings me to $446 - all prices include shipping costs and put it together with prices from www.pricewatch.com
from here i would say install some linux goodness on it and you still have $50 left over for whatever microsoft word or whatever you need in that respect

now me personally, i would MUCH rather have the system i threw together when put up against the specs for the mini
let me know what you think and
take the challenge today!!!
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can you copy a Kleenex?
The point is the approach to computing and it's form. Apple is
SPECIAL BY INSPIRATION and designs like the imac, the ipod and
the mac mini are just expressions of Apple inspiration. Apple
role is to lead and open eyes to people. When we'll stop noticing
things like this 'idea' from Wintel world it means that Apple
leadership is no more there. So, welcome to machines like this
one: they just means that Apple is still where is was designed to
be: in front. Simple, obvious design is often expression of a
really deep philosophy and just copying it is a way to show the
superiority of having a soul around the chips intead of having
just chips inside a box.
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can you copy a Kleenex?
The point is the approach to computing and it's form. Apple is
SPECIAL BY INSPIRATION and designs like the imac, the ipod and
the mac mini are just expressions of Apple inspiration. Apple
role is to lead and open eyes to people. When we'll stop noticing
things like this 'idea' from Wintel world it means that Apple
leadership is no more there. So, welcome to machines like this
one: they just means that Apple is still where is was designed to
be: in front. Simple, obvious design is often expression of a
really deep philosophy and just copying it is a way to show the
superiority of having a soul around the chips intead of having
just chips inside a box.
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two faces
The point is that hardware and software are just implementation
TOOLS and not goals. The goal is the INSPIRATION of having
something working as you dream. HW and SW are just two sides
of the same coin and they must be considered as part of a
common goal. The aberration is to separate them, not the
opposite. Wright?
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two faces
The point is that hardware and software are just implementation
TOOLS and not goals. The goal is the INSPIRATION of having
something working as you dream. HW and SW are just two sides
of the same coin and they must be considered as part of a
common goal. The aberration is to separate them, not the
opposite. Wright?
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Is it a piece of tape on that sits on the backside :-)
I think it sets the standard. I have 2 computers at home. An Intel
based which I is about 4 times faster than my G4 Mac, and guess
- I almost never use the Intel based computer running XP. It is
years behind ;-)
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Is it a piece of tape on that sits on the backside :-)
I think it sets the standard. I have 2 computers at home. An Intel
based which I is about 4 times faster than my G4 Mac, and guess
- I almost never use the Intel based computer running XP. It is
years behind ;-)
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Like a mac mini
Very good design from intel. It can be used for many different
things. I work with apple but just like the mac mini it is perfect
for people who like to have their own web, mail and ftp server to
access it all over the world. With a little extra's it's perfect for
something like a harddisc recorder for your tv. I hope that it will
be cheaper than the mac mini then I consider to buy one when it
is for sale in holland
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Like a mac mini
Very good design from intel. It can be used for many different
things. I work with apple but just like the mac mini it is perfect
for people who like to have their own web, mail and ftp server to
access it all over the world. With a little extra's it's perfect for
something like a harddisc recorder for your tv. I hope that it will
be cheaper than the mac mini then I consider to buy one when it
is for sale in holland
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TAKE THE MINI CHALLENGE!!!
well ok what i want to know is how exactly is this macintosh mini a "deal"

"Dont be fooled by the seemingly low price. The mini I want, with the larger hard drive, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, and 512 MB RAM, costs $803 from Apples online store. If you have to purchase a keyboard, mouse, and screen for your new mini, well, the cost can rapidly add up." -- lifted from cnet

so ok i have no monitor, no cheap keyboard, no mouse, and really what you're paying for is a computer with the following specs

ok this is the $500 system

1.25 GHz G4 CPU
167 MHz bus
256 MB of RAM (DDR, 333 MHz)
DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive (maximum speeds: 24X CD read; 24X CD-R write; 8X DVD read)
40 GB hard drive ( i cant find what speed the hard drive runs at, but i'd bet $100 it's not 7200 )
Radeon 9200 graphics controller (has 32 MB of dedicated RAM, supports 32 bits per pixel at 1920 x 1200) (yeah running at 1920x1200)
no legacy ports (not applicable to the Macintosh platform) [ HOW then are people supposed to hook up their current keyboard/mouse]
no open drive bays
no PCI slots (AirPort and Bluetooth can be added internally)


NOW for the $500 challenge!!!!!!

how low can you go to make a better PC than the specs above with no monitor, no burner, (but feel free to add any of these) and for an added challenge you can make it a shuttle PC for those that gripe about the size


here's my mock system

---Chaintech - K8T800&64-2800Combo
AMD 64 2800 and fan included with motherboard (so are the USB ports which apple advertises almost like they are something special hahaha)
$171

---Generic 512MB PC2700 DDR Memory
$51

---LINKWORLD LNK-3120D BABY ATX Case Front Dual USB with 300W P4 Power Supply
$21

---VISIONTEK ATI RADEON 9600 XT 128MB DDR
$135

---Seagate - ST380021A 7200RPM 80GB
$48

---NEC 16X DVD/40X CD ROM INTERNAL EIDE DRIVE
$20

that brings me to $446 - all prices include shipping costs and put it together with prices from www.pricewatch.com
from here i would say install some linux goodness on it and you still have $50 left over for whatever microsoft word or whatever you need in that respect

now me personally, i would MUCH rather have the system i threw together when put up against the specs for the mini
let me know what you think and
take the challenge today!!!
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That's not a comparison...
You forgot to tack on $245 for Windows XP Pro to run your copy
of Microsoft Word (and not for $50, either. Office XP, even the
Teacher & Student edition, will set you back another $100.)

Yes, I'm well aware you can steal your copy of Windows. But if
you're going to do that, remove $50 from the total of the Mac
mini for the OEM copy of Panther you essentially purchased.
And, no, those $50 "OEM" copies of Windows you can buy over
the net are not legitimate purchased licenses for Windows.

You also need to buy all that extra software you get for free with
the Mac mini, iLife '05. You'll need Movie Authoring software,
DVD Authoring, and music composition with MIDI support and
sound library.

You're also comparing two completely different form factors.
You want to buy parts for a Mico-ATX, not standard ATX. That
will increase the cost significantly.
Posted by olePigeon (39 comments )
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TAKE THE MINI CHALLENGE!!!
well ok what i want to know is how exactly is this macintosh mini a "deal"

"Dont be fooled by the seemingly low price. The mini I want, with the larger hard drive, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, and 512 MB RAM, costs $803 from Apples online store. If you have to purchase a keyboard, mouse, and screen for your new mini, well, the cost can rapidly add up." -- lifted from cnet

so ok i have no monitor, no cheap keyboard, no mouse, and really what you're paying for is a computer with the following specs

ok this is the $500 system

1.25 GHz G4 CPU
167 MHz bus
256 MB of RAM (DDR, 333 MHz)
DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive (maximum speeds: 24X CD read; 24X CD-R write; 8X DVD read)
40 GB hard drive ( i cant find what speed the hard drive runs at, but i'd bet $100 it's not 7200 )
Radeon 9200 graphics controller (has 32 MB of dedicated RAM, supports 32 bits per pixel at 1920 x 1200) (yeah running at 1920x1200)
no legacy ports (not applicable to the Macintosh platform) [ HOW then are people supposed to hook up their current keyboard/mouse]
no open drive bays
no PCI slots (AirPort and Bluetooth can be added internally)


NOW for the $500 challenge!!!!!!

how low can you go to make a better PC than the specs above with no monitor, no burner, (but feel free to add any of these) and for an added challenge you can make it a shuttle PC for those that gripe about the size


here's my mock system

---Chaintech - K8T800&64-2800Combo
AMD 64 2800 and fan included with motherboard (so are the USB ports which apple advertises almost like they are something special hahaha)
$171

---Generic 512MB PC2700 DDR Memory
$51

---LINKWORLD LNK-3120D BABY ATX Case Front Dual USB with 300W P4 Power Supply
$21

---VISIONTEK ATI RADEON 9600 XT 128MB DDR
$135

---Seagate - ST380021A 7200RPM 80GB
$48

---NEC 16X DVD/40X CD ROM INTERNAL EIDE DRIVE
$20

that brings me to $446 - all prices include shipping costs and put it together with prices from www.pricewatch.com
from here i would say install some linux goodness on it and you still have $50 left over for whatever microsoft word or whatever you need in that respect

now me personally, i would MUCH rather have the system i threw together when put up against the specs for the mini
let me know what you think and
take the challenge today!!!
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That's not a comparison...
You forgot to tack on $245 for Windows XP Pro to run your copy
of Microsoft Word (and not for $50, either. Office XP, even the
Teacher & Student edition, will set you back another $100.)

Yes, I'm well aware you can steal your copy of Windows. But if
you're going to do that, remove $50 from the total of the Mac
mini for the OEM copy of Panther you essentially purchased.
And, no, those $50 "OEM" copies of Windows you can buy over
the net are not legitimate purchased licenses for Windows.

You also need to buy all that extra software you get for free with
the Mac mini, iLife '05. You'll need Movie Authoring software,
DVD Authoring, and music composition with MIDI support and
sound library.

You're also comparing two completely different form factors.
You want to buy parts for a Mico-ATX, not standard ATX. That
will increase the cost significantly.
Posted by olePigeon (39 comments )
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Missing one thing...
Missing OSX buddy... That's why I buy apple's....
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Too right!
I was going to buy the Mac mini when Tiger comes out. I'll get iLife 2005 and OS X with the mini. So then the box will really cost me $200. Hmmm...I wonder does that mock up from intel come with DVI out?

Personally I think it would not matter if Apple sold their Mac mini for a dollar. There would still be Windows fan boys knocking it. They're probably on the MS payroll.
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