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A look at Longhorn

An Internet Explorer window in a test version of Longhorn shows the graphics improvements in the forthcoming operating system, including translucent windows.

Credit: Ina Fried

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Oh, WOW!
by sevanthson April 25, 2005 4:19 PM PDT
You mean like Apple's OS X has been doing for 3 years?!?!
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Ugh we have translucent windows now...
by FocusedWolf April 25, 2005 4:42 PM PDT
Truth is their nothing really incrediblly new about this stuff being presented...anything that a user can interact with can be accomplished now...this just just a small upgrade. What is new is the underlying technology that m$ is making thats gonna affect every bit of their products...like that avalon thing...but this is programmer-only candy.

A cool thing is this is gonna be supposedly the first operating system written in managed code...if you don't know what that is...imagine source code that is computer independant and compiles, to adapt to the environment, everytime you start the program...like java...except their using my favorite flavor, C#. This will cause a small performance hit but nothing earth shattering ...besides the .net framework, which is like a work in progress that all this managed code rests on, will get upgrades to make it better...c++ is so going to hell :P

Their is also another GREAT! thing about longhorn...if you thought you needed a fast computer to run it you were right...This is good for people trying to buy a new computer...For example Costco's is selling $3000-ish computers that are just 3.6 ghz with a 128 mb vid card...with this new os coming out...they may actually order some new systems to replace these dinosuars...well old if you play videogames...128 mb vid cards can barely get a game off the ground now a days...and only with low detail settings...zzz They been selling computers like this for years...same speed..same price...zzz
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hmmmm looks familiar
by Macattack15 April 25, 2005 4:54 PM PDT
Now where have I seen these features before..
EghemTigerEghem
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As far as HDD - Longhorn
by cqjb April 25, 2005 6:23 PM PDT
I am interested in this new hybrid hard drive as we manage a data recovery company and I wonder how may new issues this type of drive will create for users of the new HDD combining Flash and platters or Flash and HD as some know it.

Anyone have any ideas what types of things will go wrong with peoples data on a system like this?

Bruce - eprovided.com
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Top Secret Pre-release of Longhorn revealed on the Web...
by Llib Setag April 25, 2005 6:38 PM PDT
http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/
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MAC Jihadists fighting a losing battle
by mortis9 April 26, 2005 3:07 AM PDT
Am i the only one who sees that the market share of apple is really small? I'm sure OSX is great and apple does make some good products (i'd die w/out my iPod), but ~2% vs. ~95% (microsoft) doesn't make a bold statement. MAC is a niche. OSX is a backburner that is going nowhere but down. Apple reaps most of its revenue from iPods. Apple is like a maserati, sure its damn cool car and i wouldn't mind having one, but parts are impossible to find and most people can't afford one. Microsoft is like Ford: sure it certainly has its problems, but most people drive one. Not to mention they now own Aston Martin (MS does come out with some cool stuff sometimes - its not all that bad).

lastly, to the apple jihadists out there: its people like you who force me to boycott apple on general principle. (even if the nazis won the war, i still wouldn't join up)
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The Mac Rocks but the Users are Snobs
by Nino Nice April 26, 2005 6:14 AM PDT
After almost 20 yrs of MS systems I just bought the
Powerbook G4, 17.Inch widescreen, Fully Loaded and
it is a really awesome computer without all of the major
problems that MS has and I really dig this machine
except for most of the Mac Users which do act like a
bunch of bugged out snobs.
It's really stupid and I don't even know why they are like
that? Like i posted something in the wrong area and
some snot wrote back like I killed his mother or
something. I was like what the hell is your problem.
I hate it when phone-gangsters can talk crap miles
away behind their keyboard.
In person they would see me and know they made their
biggest mistake.
Microsoft user are for sure a much better group of
people. I'm not your typical computer user.
But getting back to the issue of the new release of
Longhorn. It's just gonna-be another BS update with
another thousand problems.
They always do thing half *ss.
Apple works on that one thing until it's right and only
then do they send it out.
I'm really blown away by this awesome system.
It's one inch thick, closed.
Apple is very expensive but you can get parts from
other vendors that are much cheaper and even MS
compatible.

Later.
Nino Brooklyn-Bronx
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transparency exists since w2k, its nothing new
by April 26, 2005 7:33 AM PDT
http://home.rochester.rr.com/artcfox/GhostIt/

for example

you need a pretty fast display card and processor, but it works, i remember having tested it under w2k

also if you look at it, with outlook 2003 and IM installed, you get a sort of transparent warning for received email messages.
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Very poor images
by April 26, 2005 8:04 AM PDT
These images look like photos of a projected image. Don't waste our time.
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Not the Real interface
by April 26, 2005 8:11 AM PDT
as was reported on other sites, this is not the real longhorn interface. The real deal will be shown later this year.
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Reality and Illusion
by Thomas, David April 26, 2005 8:21 AM PDT
There is an actual operating system that not only outperforms
any wishful thinking about Longhorn, that actually exists now ...
right now.

While everyone wants to google and awe at the Microsoft light
show, so be it. But beware, Longhorn has got to be the most
marketed, ever-changing, no end in site marketing campaign in
history! They don't even have the dignity to have a working
copy of their latest mockups.

Longhorn is an illusion. You will find some water there, but
nothing even close to resembling the grandiose beliefs that
Microsoft is marketing now.

Go ahead ... wait and see.
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Who copied who?
by orlbuckeye April 26, 2005 12:45 PM PDT
Didn't Xerox have the first GUI operating system?
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LH Looks Great; The problem & virtues of Macs
by elijah_baley April 26, 2005 2:38 PM PDT
I rarely have problems with Windows XP, and I am a power user. I would expect Longhorn to continue the MS tradition of building an operating system that supports an almost unlimited number of applications and games.

I have used Macs on previous jobs - and have been impressed with the elegance of the systems. But, I have also seen people suffer through a lot of the same problems that Windows users do. It just appears to me that many MAC users are less demanding of their systems and/or better educated at correcting the problems.

One more questions / issue with Macs: Why don't Macs come standard with a two button mouse (with right button functionality) and a scroll wheel? This is the biggest turn-off for me in using a MAC - even for just checking email, word processing, and using the internet.
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What Jihad? ROTFL
by April 26, 2005 6:42 PM PDT
No one will dispute Apple's market share. However does it
matter? They make a great product and are profitable. As
someone who has the freedom to chose, I use a Mac as my
primary machine. I don't have any issues with viruses, spyware,
reinstalling or my machine slowing down over a period of time.

I'm sure there's competition, however what jihad are you talking
about? ROTFL!

PS. I also own a Dell, because I can, but it hardly ever gets used.
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WOW - Hey you MAC SNOBS
by mlalu April 26, 2005 7:00 PM PDT
WOW - If Macs are so great how come so FEW people use them? Unless the 4% of you that use them think you really are better/smarter than the rest of us...

Come on, if you insist on paying that much for a computer (with the specs of PC 2/3 its price) at least insist on getting a mouse with TWO buttons!!! =))
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Mac Convert
by hatandglasses13 April 26, 2005 7:49 PM PDT
Wow, I just have to say almost everyone who has posted here
has to find a life and stop acting like a bunch of little children.
Sterotyping out the wazoo here. From both the Mac and
Windows end. Sheesh. Seriously folks.

Anyway--- I've been using PC's all my life. Well, for the past 9
-10 years. Bought a PowerBook last December for video editing,
and within a week it became my primary computer. Call Mac
users snobs, call Mac users a bunch of gay little weirdos, but
after years of using Windows computers (and of course, I still do
at school and with certain applications), I have to say that this
PowerBook and its accompanying Mac OS X operating system
have given me the best computing experience I've ever had,
hands down. I mean, every time I open my PowerBook I know
that (more than likely, at least) it will be a carefree experience
with the best professional-level applications in an amazingly
intuitive operating system. Despite how some Mac users portray
themselves on this message board (and hey, Windows users
aren't doing much better....) is it "gay" and "snobbish" to be able
to wholeheartedly trust in a computer that (and all of you, admit
it) your day-to-day life relies on?

So yeah, everyone grow up here, and if you don't want to
squander your money on another budget PC, get yourself a Mac
and surprise yourself with actually enjoying technology for once.
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Looks pretty Lame
by tgilbrea69 April 26, 2005 9:07 PM PDT
Switched to a Mac a couple months ago. With Tiger coming out,
doubt if I'll ever look back. Really have been pleasantly
surprised - now I understand the hype. I didn't know what I was
missing out on - no virus protection software, no spyware!!!!
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Can we grow up please?
by jmack93 April 27, 2005 12:14 PM PDT
Seriously folks. At this point neither Windows nor OS X sucks in any way, shape or form. They are both good OSes. Do they have issues? Yes. Do they need improvement? Yes. Do they lack features the other has? Yes. But LOTS of people are highly productive doing all kinds of crazy tasks in BOTH OSes. I use XP at work on a P4 Dell and OS X on a 14" iBook at home, and I like them both. I prefer the look and feel of OS X, but XPs works too. One thing people complaining about the latest OS X upgrade are forgetting - the search function. If you've ever used the on-the-fly search in iTunes on a Mac, you understand how truly awesome it is. So the latest upgrade isn't all fluffy GUI stuff.
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How about a bigger f'ing picture people.
by April 29, 2005 5:21 PM PDT
If Cnet wants to post pictures and screen shots how about making the f'ing things big enough that one can actually see what the are looking it. I mean geeze what are they stupid or something?

Robert
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same old banter
by April 30, 2005 7:55 AM PDT
there is a place for both osx and xp depending on what you
primarily use the compuer for. They each have thier strengths
and weaknesses and the smart money is on having both if you
an afford it
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