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Parents the winner in Leopard, Vista showdown

Steve Borsch, a father from Minneapolis and CEO of a consulting company, said he was seriously looking at buying a software package of parental controls to manage computer usage by his 13-year-old son, whom Borsch had caught looking at risque anime sites a couple of times. But he waited for the release of Apple's Leopard because he's a fan of the Mac and OS-level controls, which add up to one fewer moving part on the computer, he said.

He set up an account for his son, and the controls are password-protected. With Leopard, he restricts his son from unfettered access to the Web and applications such as file-sharing service BitTorrent. He has also set allowances for sites like Anime-Planet.com, a cartoon site, but blocked a similar URL without a dash between the words, which is a pornographic site. On school days, he restricts computer use between 9:30 p.m. and 6 a.m.; on weekends, his son must stay offline from 11 p.m. to 8 a.m.

After using the Mac parental controls for several weeks, he said he particularly likes the ability to control his son's computer from his own, or remote controls.

"Rather than having me run up to his room and open system preferences, he'll yell down to me that he wants to visit a particular site, and I'll just add a site on the approved list. It's great," Borsch said.

He also likes the ability to see every application his son uses.

"If he decides he can slip one by me and download an application that I haven't purposely set up in parental controls, I can see whatever app he runs in (log files). Or I can log on and share his screen and he doesn't know it. There's a great deal of oversight I could have. In my opinion, kids have to play and explore, but I have the controls in place to make sure he doesn't wander down the wrong road."

When Microsoft released Vista, it unveiled its most extensive parental controls yet. It added settings that enable parents to regulate which sites a child can use, almost to a granular effect. For example, a parent can block Web sites that contain references to tobacco or alcohol.

Laemmel uses the Vista parental controls with his 12-year-old daughter, but he takes the trusting approach. He looks at the monthly activity reports that are newly available with Vista controls, but that's all.

Still, no system of protection is perfect. Some people have reported issues with Leopard's parental controls hogging memory and CPU usage, according to Josh Tigford, owner of the Apple Blog based in Denver. But Apple said it hadn't heard such complaints.

Conrad Sykes, an 18-year-old from Spokane, Wash., already has reported on his blog TheComputerKid.com about how kids can get around Vista's parental controls. He suggests that kids can work around the controls by using Web proxies, applications that encrypt Web site access.

"There are thousands of Web proxies, and it would become a full-time job for a parent to block all the proxies," Sykes said.

Neither Leopard nor Vista parental controls address the increasing mobility of devices in the home. More and more kids use handheld devices with built-in Web browser and Wi-Fi capabilities, making it possible for them to go online nearly anywhere without supervision.

For example, a parent of a 15-year-old said his son saved up money to buy an iPod Touch. When configuring the device, his son asked for the home Wi-Fi network password, and realized that he didn't have much control over his new device.

"I did not give him the key to our home network," the dad said. "I did my research to find out that there isn't much I can do technically. I could put up a firewall in my house but what is to keep kids from jumping online at a friend's house, or McDonald's?"

An Apple representative said the company hasn't offered parental controls for devices like the iTouch, but the Safari browser bookmarks could pass from the computer to the device. Similarly, Microsoft's parental controls aren't mobile, but the company recently introduced settings for the Xbox.

Parental controls in operating systems are "a good step forward for parents," Collier said. "But it's not a panacea. There are so many devices that they can access the Net with and so many places they can access the Net."

Send insights or tips on this topic to stefanie.olsen@cnet.com.


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FYI
by AJ Pants November 20, 2007 4:36 AM PST
OSX has had parental controls since day one, they were just in a different place. Now who's playing 'catch-up' again?
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FYI
by AJ Pants November 20, 2007 4:36 AM PST
OSX has had parental controls since day one, they were just in a different place. Now who's playing 'catch-up' again?
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New in Leopard?
by akabaka November 20, 2007 5:12 AM PST
With the exception of the new timer function, all the parental
controls you mentioned have been on my Mac for years. (I haven't
upgraded to Leopard.)
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New in Leopard?
by akabaka November 20, 2007 5:12 AM PST
With the exception of the new timer function, all the parental
controls you mentioned have been on my Mac for years. (I haven't
upgraded to Leopard.)
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Reporting Services for Games
by Len Bullard November 20, 2007 6:19 AM PST
Skipping over the MS vs Apple bait...

How many online sites for children offer parental reporting services, that is, periodic reports sent to the home via email detailing online activies in that site by that account?
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Reporting Services for Games
by Len Bullard November 20, 2007 6:19 AM PST
Skipping over the MS vs Apple bait...

How many online sites for children offer parental reporting services, that is, periodic reports sent to the home via email detailing online activies in that site by that account?
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Censorship must die
by OmegaWolf747 November 20, 2007 6:33 AM PST
Or parents could just try communicating their values with their kids instead of stooping to censorship and snooping.
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Censorship must die
by OmegaWolf747 November 20, 2007 6:33 AM PST
Or parents could just try communicating their values with their kids instead of stooping to censorship and snooping.
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Let's not forget open source
by matthewboh November 20, 2007 7:07 AM PST
Dansguardian has been around for about 5 or 6 years, so why is this capability news in Vista or OSX?
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Let's not forget open source
by matthewboh November 20, 2007 7:07 AM PST
Dansguardian has been around for about 5 or 6 years, so why is this capability news in Vista or OSX?
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Link broken
by sportav November 20, 2007 7:26 AM PST
The "Controlling risque anime" link does not work.
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Link broken
by sportav November 20, 2007 7:26 AM PST
The "Controlling risque anime" link does not work.
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More Granularity = No Use
by Dr Dude November 20, 2007 7:34 AM PST
Typical of MS not to understand the end user (unless the end
user is a large IT geek). It builds all of the functionality in its
software such that any task can be done 35 different ways. This
causes more confusion than it offers help.

Most people are not geeks like us (who hang out on a tech
board). Most parents would just give up if they had to decipher
all of the MS granularity in their software.

Make it simple to use. Understand your customer and what is
important.
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More Granularity = No Use
by Dr Dude November 20, 2007 7:34 AM PST
Typical of MS not to understand the end user (unless the end
user is a large IT geek). It builds all of the functionality in its
software such that any task can be done 35 different ways. This
causes more confusion than it offers help.

Most people are not geeks like us (who hang out on a tech
board). Most parents would just give up if they had to decipher
all of the MS granularity in their software.

Make it simple to use. Understand your customer and what is
important.
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Apple "made its first major overture to parents"..?
by Tui Pohutukawa November 20, 2007 9:24 AM PST
What is the author of this article talking about? I currently run
Tiger, and extensive Parental Controls are already available,
under System Preferences/Accounts. Options include:

Limiting the applications a user can access
Restricting a user's access to email
Restricting the websites a user can view
Restricting what users can do with the computer
Restricting whom a user can chat with

According to the article, in Leopard "New settings help parents
manage a child's time online, block use of certain Web sites or
applications like instant chat or iTunes, and watch over what
kids do and who they communicate with when Mom and Dad
aren't around." These settings have been available since 2005.
How is Apple "playing catch-up to Microsoft's parental controls"?
This statement is incorrect. Has the author ever used OS X?

I hope CNET will correct these errors.
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Apple "made its first major overture to parents"..?
by Tui Pohutukawa November 20, 2007 9:24 AM PST
What is the author of this article talking about? I currently run
Tiger, and extensive Parental Controls are already available,
under System Preferences/Accounts. Options include:

Limiting the applications a user can access
Restricting a user's access to email
Restricting the websites a user can view
Restricting what users can do with the computer
Restricting whom a user can chat with

According to the article, in Leopard "New settings help parents
manage a child's time online, block use of certain Web sites or
applications like instant chat or iTunes, and watch over what
kids do and who they communicate with when Mom and Dad
aren't around." These settings have been available since 2005.
How is Apple "playing catch-up to Microsoft's parental controls"?
This statement is incorrect. Has the author ever used OS X?

I hope CNET will correct these errors.
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Thinking the same thing, but...
by ssmiroldo November 20, 2007 9:56 AM PST
I was thinking the same thing. Parental controls have been
around for a while in OS X.

Leopard's parental control features, however, are vastly
improved over Tiger. I think that's why the author mentioned
Leopard's "major" improvements in parental controls such as
time scheduling. Tiger already had limited application use as well
as site blocking/allowing but Leopard offers more control in
these areas and also provides the parent to auto-lockout all
computer use between certain times (on a day-to-day basis).

Leopard also offers logging information for websites visited,
websites blocked, applications used as well as iChat logs.
Reply to this comment
Thinking the same thing, but...
by ssmiroldo November 20, 2007 9:56 AM PST
I was thinking the same thing. Parental controls have been
around for a while in OS X.

Leopard's parental control features, however, are vastly
improved over Tiger. I think that's why the author mentioned
Leopard's "major" improvements in parental controls such as
time scheduling. Tiger already had limited application use as well
as site blocking/allowing but Leopard offers more control in
these areas and also provides the parent to auto-lockout all
computer use between certain times (on a day-to-day basis).

Leopard also offers logging information for websites visited,
websites blocked, applications used as well as iChat logs.
Reply to this comment
Has Laemmel heard of Windows Home Server?!
by technewsjunkie November 20, 2007 5:39 PM PST
"Within the home environment, you want it to be straightforward,
you don't want to have to have an IT person," Laemmel said."
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Has Laemmel heard of Windows Home Server?!
by technewsjunkie November 20, 2007 5:39 PM PST
"Within the home environment, you want it to be straightforward,
you don't want to have to have an IT person," Laemmel said."
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