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July 27, 2005 11:44 AM PDT

New DVR drops jaws in London

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When Cory Doctorow visited last weekend's OpenTech conference in London, he was stunned to see a box about the size of a 1990-era VCR boasting some pretty forward-looking capabilities.

The box was a prototype of a digital video recorder from Ascot, England, start-up Promise TV that can record and index an entire week's worth of British digital-television programming.

To Doctorow, an editor of the popular culture blog BoingBoing and the Electronic Frontier Foundation's European outreach coordinator, Promise TV has broken impressive new ground with its DVR, which it plans to unveil next month.

"There wasn't a jaw in the room that wasn't scraping the floor during (the) demo," he said. "It was genuinely futuristic."

Dominic Ludlam, Promise TV's lead developer, said the project was commissioned by the BBC and uses commodity PC hardware, including a bank of hard drives totaling 3.2 terabytes.

At week's end, new programming overwrites previous programs, although those recordings can be archived on separate storage devices.

"This method of recording transmitted television completely removes the need for viewers to preselect programs they wish to record or watch," said Ludlam. "This could well herald a change in the way we watch television. No longer need there be any peak viewing time or head-to-head competition between channels."

Not everyone is as impressed as Doctorow, however. Chris Rowen, a research analyst at SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Capital Markets, said Promise TV sounds like little more than a souped-up TiVo personal recording device.

"They're compensating for the fact that they don't have advanced listings by recording everything and then indexing it after the fact," Rowen said. "That obviously is not going to work in an 80-channel environment. So they're not bringing anything new to the table on indexing."

But Doctorow remains floored by what he saw. He said that not long ago, the notion of TiVo recording 15 hours of television was revolutionary. And now, he said, technology has reached the point where it's possible to imagine recording 30, 60 or even 90 days of programming.

"It becomes like a Wayback Machine for television," he said.

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First Impression....
by Earl Benser July 27, 2005 1:26 PM PDT
.... is a mindless TiVo on steroids. It's simply brute force and
awkwardness. I'll wait for a significantly more sophisticated design
with a serious shot at full usr control.
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First Impression....
by Earl Benser July 27, 2005 1:26 PM PDT
.... is a mindless TiVo on steroids. It's simply brute force and
awkwardness. I'll wait for a significantly more sophisticated design
with a serious shot at full usr control.
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Nothing New
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 27, 2005 1:44 PM PDT
http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/VGX-X90P/

In Japan Sony Vaio X series can record one week of every show in every single channel :)
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Nothing New
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 27, 2005 1:44 PM PDT
http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/VGX-X90P/

In Japan Sony Vaio X series can record one week of every show in every single channel :)
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Calculated record time.
by lwvirden July 28, 2005 5:32 AM PDT
My tivo, when recording at the least detailed quality, records about an hr per gig. 3 terabytes would be approximated 3000 hrs of recording.
Given that a week is 168 hrs long, that means that one could record about 17 channels of information
in that space.
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Calculated record time.
by lwvirden July 28, 2005 5:32 AM PDT
My tivo, when recording at the least detailed quality, records about an hr per gig. 3 terabytes would be approximated 3000 hrs of recording.
Given that a week is 168 hrs long, that means that one could record about 17 channels of information
in that space.
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These guys are easily impressed...
by ordaj July 28, 2005 6:55 AM PDT
I'm still waiting for video on demand (VOD). Anytime, anywhere first-run movies and shows. When you get the studios and powers-that-be to offer that up, call me. That'll be impressive.

Until then, zzzzzzzzzzz.
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that'll change everything
by mortis9 July 29, 2005 3:58 AM PDT
anythign you want to watch, whenever you want to watch it.... like "insta-blockbuster"
These guys are easily impressed...
by ordaj July 28, 2005 6:55 AM PDT
I'm still waiting for video on demand (VOD). Anytime, anywhere first-run movies and shows. When you get the studios and powers-that-be to offer that up, call me. That'll be impressive.

Until then, zzzzzzzzzzz.
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that'll change everything
by mortis9 July 29, 2005 3:58 AM PDT
anythign you want to watch, whenever you want to watch it.... like "insta-blockbuster"
It's interesting but...
by zbeast July 30, 2005 3:34 PM PDT
Tivo is a better deal.. there is only about two chanels of anything worth watching. So a Tivo with 300 hour's of recording time is about all anyone would need...

Or you can just torrent the show's you want see. that is what most of the people I know do.
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It's interesting but...
by zbeast July 30, 2005 3:34 PM PDT
Tivo is a better deal.. there is only about two chanels of anything worth watching. So a Tivo with 300 hour's of recording time is about all anyone would need...

Or you can just torrent the show's you want see. that is what most of the people I know do.
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Nice idea but....
by GrandpaN1947 July 31, 2005 5:36 PM PDT
I'd rather have my home-made HD-DVR made with legacy components without the digital flag. At least I can record the few shows I want the way I want them.

No MPAA, I'm not even remotely interested in pirating your stuff.
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Nice idea but....
by GrandpaN1947 July 31, 2005 5:36 PM PDT
I'd rather have my home-made HD-DVR made with legacy components without the digital flag. At least I can record the few shows I want the way I want them.

No MPAA, I'm not even remotely interested in pirating your stuff.
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