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July 5, 2006 3:35 AM PDT

Microsoft's challenge to the iPod

Looking to take on Apple's iPod, Microsoft is developing a handheld player expected in time for the holiday season.
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WOW!!! Really?
Let me see, let me see. Ahh, what features do I have to expect from
this again? Will it work?
Posted by benjiernmd (123 comments )
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WOW!!! Really?
Let me see, let me see. Ahh, what features do I have to expect from
this again? Will it work?
Posted by benjiernmd (123 comments )
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I Can't Wait.
Will it run Microsoft Office too? Lol
Posted by ServedUp (403 comments )
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I Can't Wait.
Will it run Microsoft Office too? Lol
Posted by ServedUp (403 comments )
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Does anybody really care?
It's just another MS semi-unctional design
Posted by Earl Benser (4342 comments )
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Definetly not you
Definetly not you. You don't like anything microsoft except for the office products.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Does anybody really care?
It's just another MS semi-unctional design
Posted by Earl Benser (4342 comments )
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Definetly not you
Definetly not you. You don't like anything microsoft except for the office products.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Bloated peace of crap
Can we expect more? Yeah, more features. Wireless transferring
music and movies, are they dumb or what? I can see it working with
cellphones, that would be a big plus over the iPod.

Is they MS selling iPod killer the at a loss?
Posted by Peter Bonte (315 comments )
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This is exactly what people said...with windows ce
When windows ce was launched against plam os, people were telling, why do i need graphics, battery power is important etc. Now look what has happend microsoft dominates this area.

I am not saying this device is a IPOD killer, never under estimate microsoft marketing!!!.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Bloated peace of crap
Can we expect more? Yeah, more features. Wireless transferring
music and movies, are they dumb or what? I can see it working with
cellphones, that would be a big plus over the iPod.

Is they MS selling iPod killer the at a loss?
Posted by Peter Bonte (315 comments )
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This is exactly what people said...with windows ce
When windows ce was launched against plam os, people were telling, why do i need graphics, battery power is important etc. Now look what has happend microsoft dominates this area.

I am not saying this device is a IPOD killer, never under estimate microsoft marketing!!!.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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I'm surprised it's not an "iPod killer"
It seems like every new player is over-hyped as being an "ipod killer", which is really an insult to the product.
Posted by lingsun (478 comments )
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Laugh all you want...Microsoft will dominate
Laugh all you want. Microsoft started slow in other markets and dominates today. Do you think Lotus Development and Wordperfect are still laughing at Office today? Do you think Sony and Nintendo are still laughing at the idea of Microsoft having their own gaming console? In time, if Microsoft wants to spend the money, they will have an awesome music player.
Posted by lingsun (478 comments )
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I'm surprised it's not an "iPod killer"
It seems like every new player is over-hyped as being an "ipod killer", which is really an insult to the product.
Posted by lingsun (478 comments )
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Laugh all you want...Microsoft will dominate
Laugh all you want. Microsoft started slow in other markets and dominates today. Do you think Lotus Development and Wordperfect are still laughing at Office today? Do you think Sony and Nintendo are still laughing at the idea of Microsoft having their own gaming console? In time, if Microsoft wants to spend the money, they will have an awesome music player.
Posted by lingsun (478 comments )
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Don't underestimate...
Don't underestimate Microsoft's ability to eventually get things right, or Apple's ability to "blow it".

Whether it's Microsoft and/or some other player, iPod's market share will eventually fall. We're still very early in the game.
Posted by john55440 (1021 comments )
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Track Record.
I've just realized its a gimmick. Its another way for Microsoft to
gain back public mindshare from Apple. What better way for
them to do it then compete in Apple's own backyard, right?

Now whether not Microsoft gains back some popularity remains
to be seen. Not everyone has the money to spend on another
device after buying an Ipod and there are millions of people out
there with Ipods. Not to mention the Macbooks are gaining in
popularity now that it can run Mac OS X & Windows side by side.

How is Microsoft expected to make any money? I just dont' see
it. Even looking ahead I just dont see how they can turn a profit
here, there are just to many competitors. The only way they
possibly can do it, is probably if they drop a bomb on one of
Apple's main R&D buildings at Infinite Loop to deter them from
innovating cause this isn't the weak Apple of old. They are a lean
mean heavyweight looking for the title and given Microsoft's
delay record with Vista & Office 07 all indications point to Apple
again to gain some hit points when it comes to innovating.

Future scenario - I've just come from work using MS Office all
day not to mention Windows Vista which is turning out to be
even buggier than XP, now I have to hop on a subway home to
listen to my MS Jukebox thingy majiggy...

I just dont see it happening. Microsoft just doesn't have the
brand popularity or cultivating sense to be able to pull this off.
Anything with the Microsoft logo just screams "don't buy me"

You know what I mean?
Posted by ServedUp (403 comments )
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Don't underestimate...
Don't underestimate Microsoft's ability to eventually get things right, or Apple's ability to "blow it".

Whether it's Microsoft and/or some other player, iPod's market share will eventually fall. We're still very early in the game.
Posted by john55440 (1021 comments )
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Track Record.
I've just realized its a gimmick. Its another way for Microsoft to
gain back public mindshare from Apple. What better way for
them to do it then compete in Apple's own backyard, right?

Now whether not Microsoft gains back some popularity remains
to be seen. Not everyone has the money to spend on another
device after buying an Ipod and there are millions of people out
there with Ipods. Not to mention the Macbooks are gaining in
popularity now that it can run Mac OS X & Windows side by side.

How is Microsoft expected to make any money? I just dont' see
it. Even looking ahead I just dont see how they can turn a profit
here, there are just to many competitors. The only way they
possibly can do it, is probably if they drop a bomb on one of
Apple's main R&D buildings at Infinite Loop to deter them from
innovating cause this isn't the weak Apple of old. They are a lean
mean heavyweight looking for the title and given Microsoft's
delay record with Vista & Office 07 all indications point to Apple
again to gain some hit points when it comes to innovating.

Future scenario - I've just come from work using MS Office all
day not to mention Windows Vista which is turning out to be
even buggier than XP, now I have to hop on a subway home to
listen to my MS Jukebox thingy majiggy...

I just dont see it happening. Microsoft just doesn't have the
brand popularity or cultivating sense to be able to pull this off.
Anything with the Microsoft logo just screams "don't buy me"

You know what I mean?
Posted by ServedUp (403 comments )
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iPod Clone for the Holidays???
We'll see...

Mac OSX 2001 Clone (astalavista 2007?/08?) for the holidays? No-Go.
You have to wait a little longer for that one partner.

What MS fail to get is this...No matter WHAT they do (if anything), it will still be "an iPod Copy" in the minds of the public.

Too many people have iPods & have seen iPods everywhere with THOUSANDS of partners & accessories "Made For The iPod"...

You can't be a follower & a leader at the same time Citizen Gates.

Microsoft: always late to the party & then they become a big party pooper.
Posted by Llib Setag (951 comments )
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iPod Clone for the Holidays???
We'll see...

Mac OSX 2001 Clone (astalavista 2007?/08?) for the holidays? No-Go.
You have to wait a little longer for that one partner.

What MS fail to get is this...No matter WHAT they do (if anything), it will still be "an iPod Copy" in the minds of the public.

Too many people have iPods & have seen iPods everywhere with THOUSANDS of partners & accessories "Made For The iPod"...

You can't be a follower & a leader at the same time Citizen Gates.

Microsoft: always late to the party & then they become a big party pooper.
Posted by Llib Setag (951 comments )
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Here is a video of how they're market it!
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXL5_RvGrs&#38;search=iPod%" target="_newWindow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXL5_RvGrs&#38;search=iPod%</a>
20Microsoft
Posted by ewelch (756 comments )
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I Concur!!!
I Concur!!!
Posted by ideletejunkemail (9 comments )
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Here is a video of how they're market it!
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXL5_RvGrs&#38;search=iPod%" target="_newWindow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXL5_RvGrs&#38;search=iPod%</a>
20Microsoft
Posted by ewelch (756 comments )
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I Concur!!!
I Concur!!!
Posted by ideletejunkemail (9 comments )
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Here is a video of how they'll market it!
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXL5_RvGrs&#38;search=iPod%" target="_newWindow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXL5_RvGrs&#38;search=iPod%</a>
20Microsoft
Posted by ewelch (756 comments )
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Hilarious
and spot-on.
Posted by Tui Pohutukawa (218 comments )
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Here is a video of how they'll market it!
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXL5_RvGrs&#38;search=iPod%" target="_newWindow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXL5_RvGrs&#38;search=iPod%</a>
20Microsoft
Posted by ewelch (756 comments )
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Hilarious
and spot-on.
Posted by Tui Pohutukawa (218 comments )
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They already have one...
Microsoft already has an "iPod Killer", they just haven't solved the battery problems. A Windows Mobile 5.0 device with Media Player and Microsoft Voice makes a device that blows away the iPod. I've been using my Verizon XV6700 Smartphone for this purpose since it was released and it's makes for one device that does it all...phone, media player, email, contacts, calendar, and any other software I want to install. And forget the silly iPod dial... All I have to do is speak to it "play Rolling Stones" and BAM! I get the Rolling Stones. If someone could just take this device and imbed a 60GB drive in it and figure out how to make the battery last longer than one day we would have the ultimate device. Oh, and throw in GPS functionality... ;)
Posted by ianlee74 (6 comments )
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They already have one...
Microsoft already has an "iPod Killer", they just haven't solved the battery problems. A Windows Mobile 5.0 device with Media Player and Microsoft Voice makes a device that blows away the iPod. I've been using my Verizon XV6700 Smartphone for this purpose since it was released and it's makes for one device that does it all...phone, media player, email, contacts, calendar, and any other software I want to install. And forget the silly iPod dial... All I have to do is speak to it "play Rolling Stones" and BAM! I get the Rolling Stones. If someone could just take this device and imbed a 60GB drive in it and figure out how to make the battery last longer than one day we would have the ultimate device. Oh, and throw in GPS functionality... ;)
Posted by ianlee74 (6 comments )
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Last I knew
Compitition was good...

Love my ipod tho ;P
Posted by Tiemmothi (16 comments )
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Last I knew
Compitition was good...

Love my ipod tho ;P
Posted by Tiemmothi (16 comments )
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Why Wait???
Why should we wait for something that we can purchase now? Why wait for MS to deliver a iPod like device when you can just go get an iPod? Why wait for MS to deliver Windows Vista with OSX like features when you can just get a Mac with OSX 10.4 now?? Why wait?
Posted by ideletejunkemail (9 comments )
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Brand
Plus possible (improved?) functionality across other Microsoft hardware and software.

If this doesn't deliver improvements (in price and quality), I just wont buy it.
Posted by Sil3nt71 (51 comments )
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Because of software investment
If people were using a computer just for word processing, pictures and internet, then changing to another OS would be easy and fine.

There are many people who have software that does not run on MAC OSX and even if they want to buy software for MAX OSX port, they can't get it. As long as this is the scenario, people will wait for windows.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Why Wait???
Why should we wait for something that we can purchase now? Why wait for MS to deliver a iPod like device when you can just go get an iPod? Why wait for MS to deliver Windows Vista with OSX like features when you can just get a Mac with OSX 10.4 now?? Why wait?
Posted by ideletejunkemail (9 comments )
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Brand
Plus possible (improved?) functionality across other Microsoft hardware and software.

If this doesn't deliver improvements (in price and quality), I just wont buy it.
Posted by Sil3nt71 (51 comments )
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Because of software investment
If people were using a computer just for word processing, pictures and internet, then changing to another OS would be easy and fine.

There are many people who have software that does not run on MAC OSX and even if they want to buy software for MAX OSX port, they can't get it. As long as this is the scenario, people will wait for windows.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Nice try
I know something that Bill doesn't.

It's not the player, stupid.
The iPod is a nice device, but overpriced. This is a proven strategy that works for many companies (Bose Speakers, Monster Cable, Starbucks, designer jeans, etc).
The reason Apple dominates is iTunes. They came out early, they came out strong and they've got tight product integration between downloads and player.
If MS wants to kill Apple they need to better music store. This will require a bit less greed on the pricing model and a bit more flexibility on the DRM restrictions.
And let's face it, MS doesn't care about having a successful hardware player. They want to breake the music distrubution strength of Apple and their non-MS file format/DRM.
Posted by skeptik (590 comments )
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Re: Nice try
Yea, but you read what the record industry thinks - they don't
like Apple being strong enough to direct pricing.

That would lead me to believe there might be higher pricing. I
believe I've read that angle before from the big labels.... I also
wonder what their licenses for number of burns will be like...

Charles R. Whealton
Chuck Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Falls Church, VA
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