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July 22, 2005 7:10 AM PDT

Longhorn's new name: Windows Vista

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The next version of Windows finally has an official name: Windows Vista.

The advertising tagline for Vista is "Clear, Confident, Connected: Bringing clarity to your world," according to a video of the announcement posted by Microsoft.

The company also said Friday that the first beta, or test release, of Vista is slated for release by Aug. 3. That release will be targeted at developers and IT professionals, said Brad Goldberg, general manager of Windows product development.

FAQ
Eye on Windows Vista
Say what you want about the upcoming OS, just don't call it Windows XP Service Pack 3.

A second, broader test release aimed at consumers will likely debut ahead of Vista's final release in the second half of next year, the company said.

Microsoft is also planning to begin testing a server version of the operating system by Aug. 3, with final shipment slated for 2007. The company said that version will not bear the Vista name. Instead, its name will "follow existing naming convention" for Windows Server. The current version is called Windows Server 2003.

The software giant spent roughly eight months researching potential names for the upcoming version of Windows.

Windows Vista logo
The Windows Vista logo
"We went through a process of focus groups and research to find out what name would convey idea of clarity. We think Vista captures the idea of clarity," he said.

The new name debuted Thursday before roughly 10,000 attendees of a Microsoft sales conference in Atlanta, Goldberg said.

The Vista moniker breaks with the company's tradition of using version numbers or acronyms for new Windows releases. The current version of the operating system, Windows XP--short for "experience," according to Microsoft--debuted in October 2001.

Ah, but what's in a name?
Vista's three design goals include better security, new ways to organize information, and seamless connectivity to external devices, the company said. Microsoft will provide more detail on Vista features Aug. 3, Goldberg said.

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The company first announced plans for Longhorn in 2001. It was originally expected to debut in 2004. The company has since revamped the feature list and launch date several times.

Longhorn has changed significantly since Microsoft first demonstrated an early version in 2003. The company has dropped plans to include its all-new WinFS file system and has also changed the way it's implementing a new Web services architecture, known as Indigo, and a new graphics engine, dubbed Avalon.

Goldberg said Microsoft will provide more information on WinFS, Indigo and Avalon in September at the company's Professional Developer's Conference in Los Angeles. "That's where we will unveil our entire development picture," he said.

Among the key features of Vista are a new searching mechanism, lots of new laptop features, parental controls and better home networking. There will also be visual changes, thanks to Avalon, ranging from shiny translucent windows to icons that are tiny representations of a document itself.

On the business side, Microsoft said Longhorn will be easier for businesses to deploy on multiple PCs and will also cut costs by reducing the number of times computers will have to be rebooted.

News.com's Ina Fried contributed to this report.

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A mind boggling effort....
by Earl Benser July 22, 2005 7:05 AM PDT
The entire management group at Microsoft must have gone
sleepless for many weeks to accomplish such a brilliant name
choice.

But then, maybe Longhorn/shorthorn/foghorn/airhorn deserves
nothing better.

Even 'Pearly Gates' would have been a more descriptive choice.
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Oh Shut Up
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:07 PM PDT
So you think Tiger, Panther are "better" OS names? HA!
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Many weeks???
by Earl Benser July 22, 2005 5:08 PM PDT
It turns out that the MS management dorks spent over six months
coming up with this jewel. Now that's competence, isn't it? Even Bib
could have done it faster.... well, maybe............
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In the long run.....
by Earl Benser July 26, 2005 4:36 AM PDT
... Vista will be the name, and MS will get it onto the store shelves,
and many PC owners will be pleased. The nitpicking will continue,
with no significant effect, nor should there be. And the world will
go on......
And thus begins the media overhype
by Jonathan July 22, 2005 7:08 AM PDT
Hmmm wasn?t the beta due LAST month? Forget about setting an actual release date how about setting a release date for the freaking beta? *yawns* Who gives a crap. Welcome to the Microsoft marketing machine. See they don?t want the market to loose focus on their vaporware so they have to put out a press release once every month. Headlines:

?Microsoft announces support for [blah] in Longshot?
?Microsoft announces new type of hard drive to be supported in Longshot?
?Microsoft announces new boot screen in Longshot?
"Microsoft announces the use of 1's and Q's in its compiled OS. (0's are soooo last year.)
Whatever. Wake me when they have a beta with Aero enabled on it.
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DIfferent Stages of Beta
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:09 PM PDT
Oh, I think your tiny brain just don't remember there are several beta phases before the final product rolls out :)
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Appropriate name
by poster48150 July 22, 2005 7:18 AM PDT
The definition (answers.com) of "vista" includes "A distant view or prospect" - certainly descriptive of Longhorn...

Jim
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A Great Name
by July 22, 2005 7:38 AM PDT
The primary definition of vista is a scenic or panoramic view.

Certainly I think the name is a good one and I am looking very forward to the new OS. I do have to admit it has been hard sitting here while the competition rolls out some nice looking operating systems. I'll be happy to join the party.

Let's face it. XP is certainly very functional, but is dated. Most Windows users were jealous of OSX even if the interface is a little clumsy at times because it just looks great.
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Vista
by peterbw July 22, 2005 7:24 AM PDT
Now that Oldsmobile is gone I guess the name
"Vistacruiser" is free.
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You call them features?
by pythonhacker July 22, 2005 7:40 AM PDT
"Among the key features of Vista are a new searching mechanism, lots of new laptop features, parental controls and better home networking. There will also be visual changes, thanks to Avalon, ranging from shiny translucent windows to icons that are tiny representations of a document itself."

Nice features! KDE already has transparency.
GNOME/KDE can already show icons which are tiny
representations of documents.

Searching mechanism? I have read it can search like Spotlight, but I will be doubtful of its performance. How about a feature by feature comparison say with Spotlight/Beagle?

From the "key features" link...

"Allchin stressed that Microsoft has broken new ground in Longhorn. For example, document icons are no longer a hint of the type of file, but rather a small picture of the file itself."

Wow! what an innovation... Allchin, did you know that GNOME/KDE can already do this with a number of file types? Breaking new ground or copying existing ones?

Regarding "laptop features", Microsoft has not
committed on adding any features. I can read only statements like "looking into this", "looking into that" and "possible enhancements" etc. Isn't many of these touted "new" features already part of Mac OS X tiger?

"On the business side, Microsoft said Longhorn will be easier for businesses to deploy on multiple PCs and will also save costs by reducing the number of times computers will have to be rebooted."

Heh heh... I am not surprised Microsoft considers
that as a new feature! It shows the sad state of Windoze that something that reduces the number of times a system is booted is touted as a new feature!

"Microsoft spent roughly eight months researching potential names for the upcoming version of Windows."

ROTFL... :-D . I am sure a lot of the supposed
innovation time has gone into finding a name!

Contrast it with this...

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox

"According to Ben Goodger, "Deer Park is not Deer Park, Victoria, but just a symbolic name. I was riding LIRR a few weeks ago and saw the name go by and I thought it sounded nice."
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KDE Tries to Conquer XP
by July 22, 2005 7:51 AM PDT
...And fails! KDE is the worst OS I have ever used and that is saying a lot. Who designed the interface and naming conventions, a monkey?!

If it is so great why isn't it all over the world on millions of home computers? Firefox proves that a good product CAN overcome near monopolies. Make a product that is worthy and people will adapt it.

The "features" you mention are watered down features that were copied from real operating system designers like Sun, Apple, and Microsoft. If those companies kept a lid on their new ideas, KDE developers would have nothing to copy or try to emulate until it actually came out.

KDE does nothing original. They only attempt to copy other people's concepts. And they do that poorly.

As someone who has used it (and finally wiped it off my drive) I strongly advise people to not waste time with it.

I can fully support people making logical desicions like switching to Apple, but KDE is way behind real operating systems in every aspect and not nearly ready for prime time.
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Well said, Anand
by malabrm1 July 22, 2005 8:01 AM PDT
You have put the nail to the head of this exciting "press release."

"New features" indeed... .

Adding a comment to your's, so far as I can see, all that's new about it, are:
1) Buy MSN Search! :) [not Google :(]
2) Somethings which the firm wishes to remain precisely imprecise re mobile computing.
3) + 4) Buy MSN services to protect your kids +
employees from illicit internet surfing! :) [as
if :(]

And this is what they're rushing to market (in another year and a half) "for improved security?"

One is forced to wonder whose security - precisely - is being protected.

P.S. Me? I wanna know: will it have Media Player Version 12 included? :)
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i'd like to add to this
by Scott W July 23, 2005 12:59 AM PDT
("Allchin stressed that Microsoft has broken new ground in Longhorn. For example, document icons are no longer a hint of the type of file, but rather a small picture of the file itself."

Wow! what an innovation... Allchin, did you know that GNOME/KDE can already do this with a number of file types? Breaking new ground or copying existing ones?)

adding to this i should mention that KDE/GNOME can also play music files just by hovering the mouse above them. fantastic feature. i also use JuK to play music from the tray without taking up valuable space on the taskbar. the UI in linux is far superior to windows and it doesn't bring down the whole system if it crashes. beat that allchin :p
Well, at least it's better than
by Norseman July 22, 2005 8:14 AM PDT
MasterCartd
or American Exprests
or Discovetr
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LOL
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:19 PM PDT
:)
Stop the naming conventions...
by July 22, 2005 8:43 AM PDT
...and just state the version number.

Oh, wait, if they did, then no one would buy a the newer OS. Because who wants to buy Windows 5.1 (XP) when they have version 5.0? (2000)? Oohh, a .1 in change, in which all they did was change the default interface and included patches, drivers, etc. Right, so they must disguise it and hype it like it was the latest and greatest change in Windows so people will forget what version numbers are.

Windows Vista: They could have done better.
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Will it be Windows forever
by July 22, 2005 11:38 AM PDT
I wonder if we'll see 'Windows' in 20 years time... Maybe they'll spend another 8 or may be 16 months trying to come up with a replacement name for 'Windows'. Who knows, it could be... Losedows or he unlikely OpenWindows :-D
Same to Apple
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:22 PM PDT
Oh, wait, if they did, then no one would buy a the newer OS. Because who wants to buy OSXXV 5.1 when they have version OSXXV 5.0? Oohh, a .1 in change, in which all they did was change the default interface and included patches, drivers, etc. Right, so they must disguise it and hype it like it was the latest and greatest change in OSXXV so people will forget what version numbers are.

Mac OSXXV: They could have done better.
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It's Windows Vista BABY!
by tbeckner July 22, 2005 8:55 AM PDT
It's Windows Vista BABY! Sounds like something out of a 1970's movie or is that Mike Myers talking?
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I Prefer "Shagging"
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:23 PM PDT
Sounds Fun :)
So 70's
by July 26, 2005 6:46 AM PDT
No.lovechuncks. Sadly it's NOT Mike Myers doing one of his comic
stints set in the 70's... it's Backward Bill and the Redmond Retards
still stuck in a monpolistic timewarp up there. I wonder if Vista will
be as leaky as the Titanic?
New Name ... Same Old
by July 22, 2005 9:04 AM PDT
Windows VISTA ... Perhaps a better name would have been SQUEEGEE. Atleast then, users would have been conned into believing that Microsoft was actually cleaning up Windows and not just turning out the same old thing with features which already exist and that, quite frankly, nobody wants. It just makes you wonder what the thought process is in the design and development room which would ultimately result in this release. As to the new feature of requiring less reboots ... define 'LESS'. Oh Microsoft, always good for a laugh.
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New OS .....Same Old
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:24 PM PDT
Mac OSX Tiger... Perhaps a better name would have been SQUEEGEE. At least then, users would have been conned into believing that Apple was actually cleaning up OSX and not just turning out the same old thing with features which already exist and that, quite frankly, nobody wants. It just makes you wonder what the thought process is in the design and development room which would ultimately result in this release. As to the new feature of requiring less reboots ... define 'LESS'. Oh Apple, always good for a laugh.
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Should Call it Brontosaurus
by July 22, 2005 9:05 AM PDT
Coming to a tar pit near you, Microsoft's new OS....

With all the "innovative" features (which we already have in the alternatives to Windows), and all the "new ground" being broken, I'm starting to think that they should call the next release "Brontosaurus". After all, Microsoft is showing itself to be the lumbering dinosaur of a prior age of technology, so let's name it appropriately.
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hah
by Sboston July 22, 2005 4:40 PM PDT
You know, it wouldn't have mattered what they called it. You guys would still hate it.

Maybe they should have gone with animals as well?

Maybe Windows Lion?
Then the animals could fight. Tiger VS Lion.
:D
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Don't Care.
by Steve Jordan July 22, 2005 9:18 AM PDT
Still use Win2K. Looking forward to Linux next. Hope never to use Vista. Wish DoJ would do their job.
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Same here
by July 22, 2005 9:34 AM PDT
Still use Win2k on my PC, and bought a Mac in April. At some point when Win2K won't suffice, the PC is going Linux.
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What a Vista!
by pythonhacker July 22, 2005 9:36 AM PDT
From thesaurus.com,

Definition: landscape
Synonyms: mural, outlook, painting, panorama, photograph, prospect, scene, scenery, sketch, view, Vista.

The very fact they named it "Vista" shows that
the focus is more on the outloook, scene, view or whatever. Basically, it is just the eye-candy.
With the name "Vista", Microsoft is officially telling that to the world.

There is another meaning to Vista ;-)

Definition: perspective
Synonyms: angle, bearing, direction, facet, feature, *gimmick*, hand, outlook, perspective, phase, position, prospect, regard, scene, side, situation, slant, switch, twist, view, Vista.

I have a strong feeling that they meant Windows "gimmick"! ;-)
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Vista vernacular
by MonkeyTrainer July 22, 2005 11:22 AM PDT
Vista - a location that affords a panoramic view of all the neat
stuff you can't actually reach...
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Anada Pilly ?
by July 24, 2005 3:51 PM PDT
new linux command for u
SOB.Anada BSTRD.Anada
Anada Pilly ?
by July 24, 2005 3:51 PM PDT
new linux command for u
SOB.Anada
BSTRD.Anada
A new name, how innovative!
by technewsjunkie July 22, 2005 9:42 AM PDT
And it took them eight months to come up with it!

I'll stick with Loooooonnnnngggg Horn;-)
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Yeah, Apple is So Lame
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:26 PM PDT
It usually take them twelve months to come up with an animal name :)
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Windows is unclear? Really?
by technewsjunkie July 22, 2005 9:50 AM PDT
Good thing the "Vista" name will let consumers know thier
confusion wasn't them at all - it was Windows inconsistancy.

So now in the year 2005-6 Microsoft has finally figured out how to
make thier OS "clear". Wow!

Sheesh.
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OSX is Confusing
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:28 PM PDT
Who really cares about Tiger, Panther, Rabbit, Lizard, Elephant, and Monkey? :)
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A new Windows shell and less control
by Mallardd July 22, 2005 9:57 AM PDT
Vista will surely have plenty of eye-candy giving users the illusion that their computers can do more than ever. Users will be distracted from the fact that they will actually have less control over what htey can do with their computers, thanks to Microsoft's "Treacherous computing" incentive.

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html
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innovation, rather then perpetuation
by gmycyk191 July 22, 2005 11:22 AM PDT
Microsoft needs to focus more on innovation, rather then perpetuation. It?s been almost a decade since MS can claim dominance, and certainly ubiquity in the desktop O/S realm.

Users really care more about reliability, stability, security, and intuitive ease of use rather than fancy themes, animations, etc. The last thing we need is another ?millennium? O/S. With the deletion of WinFS, and some other yet to be seen features, I?m not sure what the selling would be. The only thing helping push O/S sales is the fact that as an appliance (which PCs have yet to become), companies like Dell with core manufacturing in places like India and China, have made much lower cost PCs a disposable commodity. Way back when a high end desktop cost almost $2000.00, consumers were a lot more insistent that the software worked as advertised.
An OSX Eyecandy and Less Control
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:30 PM PDT
OSX will surely have plenty of eye-candy giving users the illusion that their computers can do more than ever. Users will be distracted from the fact that they will actually have less control over what htey can do with their computers, thanks to Apple's "make things pretty and lemmings will follow" incentive.
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What it comes to for me
by Musmanno July 22, 2005 10:53 AM PDT
is gaming. That's the reason I keep Windows around. I boot into Linux for most everything from web surfing to word processing, etc. But man, I gotta have the games. Every few months or so I'll surf around to see what the gaming situation on Mac looks like, and I'm not impressed. I know there are some big releases out, but by and large it is nowhere near what you can get in Windows. Since I already use Linux for most other things, why would I want to switch to a Mac?
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You might want to switch ...
by Michael Grogan July 22, 2005 11:02 AM PDT
...before you buy Vista. All that eye candy comes with a major price in computer power overhead. Wait'll the people realize they need a major gaming system just to run the OS, LOL, what a joke!
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$$$$$$$
by July 22, 2005 11:46 AM PDT
I wonder how much this'll cost...
$400 for the system; then you'll have to sign-up for MSN, then
anti-malware services, then...

Just get a Mac.
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When Mac's market share gets about 4.5%
by Musmanno July 22, 2005 12:19 PM PDT
and I mean quite a ways above, and I can get what I want for it, I'll consider it.
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Please Feed Mr. Jobs
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 22, 2005 12:36 PM PDT
He is so poor that he HAS TO come up with a new OS with pretty but useless UI EVERY SINGLE YEAR to lure people's money. Not to mention Mac hardware are SO EXPENSIVE thanks to him :)
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you forget
by Scott W July 23, 2005 1:23 AM PDT
you are missing out the £450 for office (seriously, that's what it costs), the £250 for the cut-down version of vista (no more than 3 windows open at a time) and £3000 for the PC to run it ;)
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So why are people so "wed" to an OS
by Musmanno July 22, 2005 12:27 PM PDT
I give it only practical considerations. As I said elsewhere, I use Linux mainly, but I keep Windows XP for the games. But I don't have an emotional attachment to Windows. If MAC looks better from a practical perspective, then I'll switch (I used Apples long before DOS/Windows PCs to begin with).

But from that I can tell, a lot of people have a weird emotional attachment to an OS or company. It's like political parties, as long as they're "your boys" they can do no wrong.
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I don't know
by July 22, 2005 3:25 PM PDT
I've wondered the same thing. All I can think of is that there are trolls out there who love defending the Rich Redmond Boys and the Affluent Apple Posse.

I mean check out "Bob Dillanony". Whoever that is has 1000 posts on this story. Must be a troll.
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Vista Cruiser ... the old family car
by Thomas, David July 22, 2005 12:35 PM PDT
eom
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Tiger Cruiser ... the old family car
by 201293546946733175101343322673 July 24, 2005 12:38 AM PDT
<EOM>
Vista - It's out there somewhere!
by smellcoffee July 22, 2005 12:53 PM PDT
??
;-)
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