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June 26, 2006 9:28 AM PDT

Jobs to demo Leopard at developer conference

Apple Computer CEO Steve Jobs, plus a team of executives, will open this year's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) with a demonstration of Leopard, Apple's next-generation release of Mac OS X. Boot Camp, the program that allows Mac users to run Windows, was released in a public beta version in April. A final version is expected to be included in Leopard.

The company conference, scheduled Aug. 7 to 11, will offer one-on-one sessions with Apple engineers to peruse and troubleshoot the new system, according to Apple. Part of the conference will be dedicated to explaining best practices for developing universal applications for Intel chip-based Macs. Apple has not yet announced when the new Mac OS X version will be released.

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As long as...
by john55440 June 26, 2006 9:54 AM PDT
As long as Leopard only runs on Mac hardware, it's pretty irrelevant.

If it came preinstalled on HP and Dell computers, then it's future release would be newsworthy.

Boot Camp isn't going to do anything to increase Apple's stagnant 3.x% market share.
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Just curious
by June 26, 2006 10:15 AM PDT
Why would it be newsworthy then.... Apple makes great machines
that we know will give you the great mac experience... also the
support for boot camp and also parallels desktop is a sure fire way
to woo people from the cheapo PCs of the Dell and HP world.

I am sick of everyone wanting their PCs to run the Mac OS... Apple
makes great hardware and deserves the reap the rewards.
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What does HP and Dell Offer?
by open-mind June 26, 2006 1:15 PM PDT
They sell PC's that run two operating systems.

Apple sells PC's that run those same two, plus one more that's better.

Seems like Apple just offers more flexibility for about the same amount of money.
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As long as...
by john55440 June 26, 2006 9:54 AM PDT
As long as Leopard only runs on Mac hardware, it's pretty irrelevant.

If it came preinstalled on HP and Dell computers, then it's future release would be newsworthy.

Boot Camp isn't going to do anything to increase Apple's stagnant 3.x% market share.
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Just curious
by June 26, 2006 10:15 AM PDT
Why would it be newsworthy then.... Apple makes great machines
that we know will give you the great mac experience... also the
support for boot camp and also parallels desktop is a sure fire way
to woo people from the cheapo PCs of the Dell and HP world.

I am sick of everyone wanting their PCs to run the Mac OS... Apple
makes great hardware and deserves the reap the rewards.
View reply
What does HP and Dell Offer?
by open-mind June 26, 2006 1:15 PM PDT
They sell PC's that run two operating systems.

Apple sells PC's that run those same two, plus one more that's better.

Seems like Apple just offers more flexibility for about the same amount of money.
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Hope
by HawaiiBob June 26, 2006 9:54 AM PDT
I hope that it isn't as buggy as Tiger was.
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Tiger Not Buggy
by dansterpower June 26, 2006 11:40 AM PDT
I run Tiger on 30 G5's and 5 G4's and I have never seen any
"bugginess" in it. It is Rock Solid Stable.

DJO.
Hope
by HawaiiBob June 26, 2006 9:54 AM PDT
I hope that it isn't as buggy as Tiger was.
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Tiger Not Buggy
by dansterpower June 26, 2006 11:40 AM PDT
I run Tiger on 30 G5's and 5 G4's and I have never seen any
"bugginess" in it. It is Rock Solid Stable.

DJO.
Newsworthy
by jimothyGator June 26, 2006 10:15 AM PDT
It's newsworthy enough for that 3.x% of users. It's newsworthy
enough for CNET and several other sites to report on. It's
newsworthy enough that just about everything Apple does attracts
media attention. Heck, it was newsworthy enough for you to read
the article and comment on it. The fact is, Apple's press coverage
far outweighs their modest market share.
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Infatuation with SIZE (market share is over rated)
by technewsjunkie June 26, 2006 10:54 AM PDT
Not that I wouldn't love to see Apple's share double to 8%, or go to double didgits, 10%! That would be an extraordinary achievement.

But what is it with this attitude that if a company, *ANY* company, who has a small share size is somehow not worthy of people's attention? That's bad business sense. This is rather "small" (there's that SIZE thing again) minded;-) Sheesh. Big is boring, small and unique is interesting.
Newsworthy
by jimothyGator June 26, 2006 10:15 AM PDT
It's newsworthy enough for that 3.x% of users. It's newsworthy
enough for CNET and several other sites to report on. It's
newsworthy enough that just about everything Apple does attracts
media attention. Heck, it was newsworthy enough for you to read
the article and comment on it. The fact is, Apple's press coverage
far outweighs their modest market share.
Reply to this comment
Infatuation with SIZE (market share is over rated)
by technewsjunkie June 26, 2006 10:54 AM PDT
Not that I wouldn't love to see Apple's share double to 8%, or go to double didgits, 10%! That would be an extraordinary achievement.

But what is it with this attitude that if a company, *ANY* company, who has a small share size is somehow not worthy of people's attention? That's bad business sense. This is rather "small" (there's that SIZE thing again) minded;-) Sheesh. Big is boring, small and unique is interesting.
G3 support and what I need.
by fakespam June 26, 2006 10:42 AM PDT
I know it's going to be cut.

I'm glad a number of programs still use Jaugar or Panther, as I've
seen no reason to update on secondary computers (like my
siblings Macs and other family members . . . will they be served
via upgrading . . . not bloody likely).

I, on the other hand, need it. Since opening a music studio, we
crash Panther and Tiger hourly (hey, when we ran it on OS 9 and
2000/XP, we'd crash all the time LOL), so I know it'll have better
RAM management. What really gets me going is Kevin Rose's
rumors about how it'll intergrate a variety of ways to use
Windows files and programs, or something along those lines. A
former buddy of mine has a Linux box that does Windows
execution just fine, playing Half-Life and and Unreal at full
speed last time I saw him. Crazy is I've gotten Virtual PC to run
at full speed on a power enough Mac to do games like Half-Life,
but I don't recommend that. I'd prefer an intergrated emulator
that's capable of running Windows programs without switching
or anything, just similar to the way OS 9 runs on OS X.

Programmer #A-5 of www.totallyparanoia.com
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Still on a G3?
by jimothyGator June 26, 2006 12:48 PM PDT
Out of curiosity, if you've got a business to run, why not upgrade to
something more powerful? I realize that computers are not free,
but it seems you'd quickly be able to recover the investment. Music
software is pretty demanding of the hardware, is it not?
G3 support and what I need.
by fakespam June 26, 2006 10:42 AM PDT
I know it's going to be cut.

I'm glad a number of programs still use Jaugar or Panther, as I've
seen no reason to update on secondary computers (like my
siblings Macs and other family members . . . will they be served
via upgrading . . . not bloody likely).

I, on the other hand, need it. Since opening a music studio, we
crash Panther and Tiger hourly (hey, when we ran it on OS 9 and
2000/XP, we'd crash all the time LOL), so I know it'll have better
RAM management. What really gets me going is Kevin Rose's
rumors about how it'll intergrate a variety of ways to use
Windows files and programs, or something along those lines. A
former buddy of mine has a Linux box that does Windows
execution just fine, playing Half-Life and and Unreal at full
speed last time I saw him. Crazy is I've gotten Virtual PC to run
at full speed on a power enough Mac to do games like Half-Life,
but I don't recommend that. I'd prefer an intergrated emulator
that's capable of running Windows programs without switching
or anything, just similar to the way OS 9 runs on OS X.

Programmer #A-5 of www.totallyparanoia.com
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Still on a G3?
by jimothyGator June 26, 2006 12:48 PM PDT
Out of curiosity, if you've got a business to run, why not upgrade to
something more powerful? I realize that computers are not free,
but it seems you'd quickly be able to recover the investment. Music
software is pretty demanding of the hardware, is it not?
Crash Panther and Tiger?
by dansterpower June 26, 2006 11:38 AM PDT
If you are crashing Panther and Tiger "regularly" then you most
likely have a hardware issue. Both of these OS X versions are rock
solid stable. I run them on 30 boxes -- 7 G4, rest G5's and not
one box has EVER crashed.

DJO
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#1 cause of kernel panics
by Maccess June 26, 2006 10:39 PM PDT
The #1 cause of kernel panics in OS X is bad RAM. There's lots of bargain basement RAM out there, but if you've got a production machine, it's worth paying a little more for branded RAM.

It doesn't hurt either if you match your RAM modules in terms of Cache Latency, addressing modes etc. These specs are usually not published. Matched RAM usually has identical chipsets (check the printed numbers on the chip), and identical circuit boards.

This applies to any computer regardless of operating system, although it's more apparent under Mac OS X since there is usually very little else that can bring down the system.
Crash Panther and Tiger?
by dansterpower June 26, 2006 11:38 AM PDT
If you are crashing Panther and Tiger "regularly" then you most
likely have a hardware issue. Both of these OS X versions are rock
solid stable. I run them on 30 boxes -- 7 G4, rest G5's and not
one box has EVER crashed.

DJO
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#1 cause of kernel panics
by Maccess June 26, 2006 10:39 PM PDT
The #1 cause of kernel panics in OS X is bad RAM. There's lots of bargain basement RAM out there, but if you've got a production machine, it's worth paying a little more for branded RAM.

It doesn't hurt either if you match your RAM modules in terms of Cache Latency, addressing modes etc. These specs are usually not published. Matched RAM usually has identical chipsets (check the printed numbers on the chip), and identical circuit boards.

This applies to any computer regardless of operating system, although it's more apparent under Mac OS X since there is usually very little else that can bring down the system.
news worthy
by rmiecznik June 26, 2006 1:15 PM PDT
Apple I like the best right behind Linux.

Window is trash, I only use it to play games
on it once in a while, that's the onlyh thing
XP is good for, Games and even then sometimes that crash too.

I don't waste my time on Windows at all. DO you think it's News worth for MS to trash CNET with their stupid news every 5 minutes ?

Apple is upgrading on a rock solid base, and making that even better, what's Windows doing ?

Same o samo O, with a sleek Interface.
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news worthy
by rmiecznik June 26, 2006 1:15 PM PDT
Apple I like the best right behind Linux.

Window is trash, I only use it to play games
on it once in a while, that's the onlyh thing
XP is good for, Games and even then sometimes that crash too.

I don't waste my time on Windows at all. DO you think it's News worth for MS to trash CNET with their stupid news every 5 minutes ?

Apple is upgrading on a rock solid base, and making that even better, what's Windows doing ?

Same o samo O, with a sleek Interface.
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Paralells
by LordBeleza June 28, 2006 5:53 AM PDT
I think that Leopard will include something like parallels too. A kind of virtualization to run windows apps inside Leopard without to have to boot with Boot Camp
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Paralells
by LordBeleza June 28, 2006 5:53 AM PDT
I think that Leopard will include something like parallels too. A kind of virtualization to run windows apps inside Leopard without to have to boot with Boot Camp
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Think again
by rleon July 19, 2006 10:51 AM PDT
Yes, Leopard might not be news, because Apple have had some
Updates regularly... Just as Vista getting stacked over and over.
But what really makes me think of a conspiracy, is all those who
keep bashing Apple, also complain that OS X does not run in their
machines... wierd!
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Think again
by rleon July 19, 2006 10:51 AM PDT
Yes, Leopard might not be news, because Apple have had some
Updates regularly... Just as Vista getting stacked over and over.
But what really makes me think of a conspiracy, is all those who
keep bashing Apple, also complain that OS X does not run in their
machines... wierd!
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