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The court ordered TorrentSpy to preserve server log data, and make it available to the Motion Picture Association of America as part of the ongoing litigation between them.
TorrentSpy objected to the initial request for the preservation and production of the server logs on a number of grounds. Its lawyers claimed that preserving the data would be an undue burden requiring great technical resources and significant funds.
But the judge was having none of it. She accused the defense either of laboring under a lack of knowledge and expertise or, even worse, a lack of candor. She found that the defense had miscalculated the amount of data that would be stored as a result of the order. The judge further noted that any costs incurred would be significantly lower than estimated.
TorrentSpy tried to stiff-arm the plaintiff's motion, offering policy and legal arguments, ranging from unrelated statutes to the First Amendment. Again, the judge was unmoved. She held that the defendant's privacy policy did not insulate it from having to produce the requested materials in a discovery proceeding.
Finally, the defense claimed that proper jurisdiction resided in the Netherlands, where TorrentSpy located its primary server, and so that nation's laws governing personal data protection should apply. But the judge rejected the argument because the defendants are residents of--and maintain servers in--the United States.
While Harry Potter may need an invisibility cloak to fight evil, the average Internet user does not need a cloak to use the Internet. The anonymity TorrentSpy has offered its users facilitates the mass distribution of content without permission or compensation to the owners of the copyrights in those works.
Since the Napster 1.0 days, people who have chosen to transfer creative content unlawfully over the Internet have used a litany of excuses to justify their behavior. The most popular excuse seems to be that only large corporations suffer from the lost sales. Recently, file sharers have claimed that they are opinion makers and style influencers.
Contrary to popular belief, digital file sharing has a direct impact on independent artists as well as major label artists. As an example, an influential artist in a niche music genre has established that the bulk of his catalog is available on torrent streams. Significantly, he has discovered his digital-only release on the streams. Though he continues to release well-received albums, he is not able to tour so record sales support his music career.
To his surprise, one infringer actually included an e-mail address in his torrent posting of the digital-only album. The artist contacted the poster to request that the album be removed, and nothing happened. The artist resubmitted the request. Responding with a proclamation that he was the artist's biggest fan and a sincere apology, the infringer removed the album.
Not content to apologize and move on, the infringer provided arguments why the artist was wrong not to have his digital-only release available for file sharing for free, including the lack of radio air play available for the artist. While the poster acknowledged in the response that his activity was illegal, he did not offer to compensate the artist for all the albums that had been transmitted through the torrent.
An invisibility cloak does more than just protect the identity of those who use the Internet for illegal or unlawful activity. It encourages individuals from taking responsibility for their actions. And in providing an invisibility cloak to its users, TorrentSpy has been converted from a passive participant to an active collaborator in their activities.
Biography
Nancy Prager, an intellectual property and corporate attorney, represents technology and entertainment clients on matters from privacy to music licensing. She maintains a blog at NancyPrager.wordpress.com and can be reached at nprager@pragerlaw.us.





(For the record I buy all my music, but only a tiny fraction of what I buy will ever see airtime on Empty Vee and the like...)
Another point (which doesn't really excuse theft of owned property) is that you shouldn't be allowed to live of the proceeds of your own misdeeds. Both the org. that you mentioned are dirty. Its been shown in court on numerous occasions that they "cook the books" , They steal from the artists and they're very capable of perjury (you might be correct if you want to argue that they're just plan stupid).
Your response is probably that these are misdeeds committed by individuals but I don;t really see how they're any different then the "MOB",hells angels, or for that matter the waffen ss (I'm not associating them with the Nazis but with the fact that an international court found that mere membership in the org. is illeagal)
What gets me is that when these logs are handed over everyone goes under the MPAA magnifying glass. Even the people NOT sharing illegal/copyright material. To me this is no different than a blanket wiretap... it is just the government giving the wiretap info to a commercial entity.
And...no I don't download any media files, but I also haven't bought any CD's or DVD's in years either. Screw you guys....I'm done supporting you cookie cutter crap anyways!
This is a load of crap. This statement is on the assumption that people pirating digital content would otherwise be purchasing the content if it were not available to them freely through piracy. This is a poor logical fallacy and there's no supporting evidence for this.
Nancy Prager is so invested in the music industry as it existed in the past that she suggests that people should not be able to use the internet anonymously because that allows for piracy.
Using the internet anonymously has always been important to everyone who goes online. Now the recording industry suggests that shouldn't be allowed because it cuts into their profits???
Why would anyone even listen to Nacy Prager?
Mark
What do you think?
Sure, there is always going to be piracy, but the RIAA/MPAA's tactics are just driving the tech savvy users onto private and/or encrypted networks. And the longer they use their big hammers the more the technology for trading copyrighted works are going to filter down to the average users.
I've read that as much as 30% of all illegal trading has already moved off the public internet. What happens when this increases to 60%? 90%.
Then all the court orders, pretexting, and other techniques currently used by the entertainment industry will be totally useless. And they still won't be increasing sales.
They would be much better off to fix their business plan while they still have some customers left.
If you can make a provable case that file sharing causes the artists to suffer a net loss of revenue, then perhaps you should create some sort of media malpractice insurance company to make up the difference. Of course, you cannot. The only people who are actually losing money from file sharing are the people in the old archaic media distribution business. Musicians, as a whole, are still doing well -- the entertainment dollar is just divided across a larger number of them. Basic economics, dear.
Another fine piece of yellow journalism sponsored by the Digital Rights Mafia and the media robber barons.
The RIAA and MPAA don't understand what filesharing is (or what internet radio is) or how to use it. Baen books does, and have helped several of their authors using it.
It always takes the same editorial form as well. The one's that kick-start the issue are always the one's with a vested interest in the subject, i.e, they depend on the laws for an income but are nearly always on the side lines "stoking the fires". Look at the "job description" of Nancy Prager for example!
As someone who has made a very good living out of producing copyrighted material and at the same time had it copied by so called pirates. I feel well situated to comment on the "Great Copyright Debate". I've come across some terrible copies of my material and talked to the people who have bought it, most say that it makes them buy a genuine copy.
The same old argument rolled out "that it stifles young talent" is absolutly rubbish in this day and age of "bedroom production". When a few of the "Fat Cats" at the top of the tree come clean that the "debate" is about protecting their riduculas saleries. Perhaps then, this whole issue will take a "back-burner" whilst the World concentrates on more pressing issues.
I don't own the music, I just bought the right to hear it. I own the CD not the music... OK. So how many times do I have to legally buy it?
I am a Hendrix fan. I bought at least 4 copies, I'm sure, of of ElectricLadyland on album (yeah I'm that old, hell I saw him live a few times). The worn out albums and cassettes I bought should cover the problem of downloading a copy right? You know like right now, the stick I have Ladyland on is in my car outside, so can I download a quick copy and listen to it now on my computer? How about format switching? Is that legal? Can I even have a memory stick in my car I made from a legal CD? It's all to complicated and too much BS. Guess I'll do what I think is right.
Now point two, copyrights.. never understood these . Why do "artists" get to claim their work forever? I am a modelmaker and if I create a model and it gets used multiple times, I only get paid once. Why in the world do heirs to copyrights continue to get proceeds from the long dead artist? Hell a few weeks ago we (my boss and I) came up with a process and mixture to make a skinlike plastic that feels and looks and moves right. Do we get anything for it? Nope the company I was working for owns it, even if we did invent it on our own time. IMO copyrights should last as long as the author is alive, after that it should be public domain.
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by enigma.foundry
August 5, 2007 5:25 PM PDT
- Since the origin of the DMCA, corporations who have chosen to control creative content unconstitutionally have used a litany of excuses to justify their behavior. The most popular excuse seems to be that only with legal regimes such as the DMCA can corporations not suffer from lost sales. Recently, corporations have claimed that they have intrinsic rights to violate the fair use rights of citizens.
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