First, it's, well... green... I mean, I know green is kind of a trademark for Netscape, but so much green, well... Second, there's too much of everything on the screen picture you displayed: basically, it looks like Netscape.com with a taskbar and (granted) new iconography... Now, if this new version is faster than 7.2 (ad memoriam) and more secure than IE (who said sotto voce: 'ain't hard to beat'...?), and if the new AOL browser finally lets the user more leeway in the way he (or she) surfs the Net, maybe, and just maybe, I'll consider ditching my beloved Opera (which new preview3 7.60 version offers better clarity and a more space-efficient interface...), but remember I said 'maybe'. Could be the key-word for a lot of people...
I am pleased to hear that there will be another version of Netscape, regaurdless of it using Mozilla in the background (Mozilla does seem to have been spawned from Netscape to start with). The impending doom messages I heard about Netscape 7.2 being the last wasn't too pleasing, so news of a new release, is great news, even though I dont believe I like the idea of running the stinkin unsecure Internet Explorer engine... kinda distasteful for a compeditor... but what do you expect when AOL runs Netscape now and AOL signed a 7 year contract with Microsoft to use IE in its browsers... very distatseful.
The browser wars are starting again. It appears that Microsoft is loosing ground due to outdated technologies of IE but has ignored requests by vendors and consumers for a updated release. Tabbed browsing has been around for a while and IE should have incorporated this some time ago. Security issues have been ongoing and Microsoft has consistantly released patches but when it the product going to be secure enough that would make people "not want to" switch?
Love the look of it, very nice and clean design. But of course the efficiency will be the decisive factor. Too bad that people without personal knowledge about security issues comment on such. For you followers who only read articles from less competent authors about security issues in IE I?d like to inform you of certain facts. The IE as of today is not especially insecure. If you update your OS with security patches then you automatically patch the issues of IE. The problem IE has is that it?s attached to the OS, NOT that the engine is more insecure than any other, and I, with many others, DO hope it will be detached in a near future for security reasons. Most ignorant users think that IE is insecure and that other browsers are secure. Fact is that IE is quite secure as is now and most of what you read is not true. Other browsers too have security vulnerabilities every now and then too, of course not as often which is quite normal considering the amount of computers running the different browsers. You want to hack or spread virii, you code or search for breaches in the mostly used system/browser. Since the ignorant ones reading this will be hoping I?m as ignorant as them, I will let them/you know I run FireFox too, which I both love and hate. I work with computer security issues in Macintosh, Linux, and Windows environments mostly.
I do look forward to testing a new Netscape browser.
Just downloaded and tested the new browser: - MSN Browser tried this earlier with little success - too many buttons - the UI is much too "busy" for a browser, think opera on steroids - too complex to configure - placement of menus nonstandard - tab buttons are too narrow while other buttons are too big (the UI isn't efficient and smacks of an amateur UI designer)
My advice: Use Firefox instead and simply use the "View with IE" extension as needed
With the instability of IE and the integration of IE into Netscape browsing, the clear option for security and stability is Mozilla's Firefox browser. Try it... you'll love it!
You all sound like salesmen. Especially the so-called security expert.
Everyone by now knows that IE is extremely insecure...that's why all this is happening in the first place. You may think that IE6.0 covered by SP2 is the most secure thing available.... well....it isn't.
With each new incarnation and/or update, the security situation becomes worse.
AOL owns Netscape and is in bed with Mozilla. For this and ONLY this reason, I will never use Netscape, Firefox, the AOL browser, or anything else connected with AOL. Everything AOL touches turns into a security issue with advertising and too much ability for the user to be remotely watched and/or controlled.
The fact that these things are new is NO reason to use them.
As far as I am concerned, there are only two fixes for security problems.... 1) The lack of appropriate education on behalf of users MUST be addressed 2) Browsers need to start filtering out (ignoring...if you will) code that is embeded into the HTML, java, and other sources of webpages. I do not believe this is going to happen. For example: the html code that produces popups should be totally ignored by the browser---if it were, then there would be no need at all for installing additional software to close a popup after it has been downloaded. I know that HTML is not the only method used, but this is just an example.
What I see is that we are being lied to by these people because if we use their product...they make more money.
I am NOT interested in "bells and whistles". I want honesty.
The screenshot given shows the current temporature...this tells me that this new browser can go out to the internet and retrieve data for display...this to me is dangerous. I do not want my browser to "get" anything from the net that I didn't tell it to. Maybe it can be adjusted otherwise...but this gives it a thumbs down from me. Weatherbug does this and Weatherbug is spyware.
The point to all this..... Newer does NOT mean better, it just means newer.
I really don't think I will be using that browser. I tried Firefox and didn't like it. I truly dislike IE, so why would I want a browser that has two of the things I don't like incorporated in it? Why copy from others when you can just glorify what you have? Why do they think that what they have is inferior? Might want to figure out why people use netscape before they start copying the browser that their clients are "not" using?
I honestly hope the test market for it fails. If I have to, I will look for a different browser, although I do enjoy netscape. I will use this version until I it's no longer compatible with the sites I frequent.
Second, there's too much of everything on the screen picture you displayed: basically, it looks like Netscape.com with a taskbar and (granted) new iconography... Now, if this new version is faster than 7.2 (ad memoriam) and more secure than IE (who said sotto voce: 'ain't hard to beat'...?), and if the new AOL browser finally lets the user more leeway in the way he (or she) surfs the Net, maybe, and just maybe, I'll consider ditching my beloved Opera (which new preview3 7.60 version offers better clarity and a more space-efficient interface...), but remember I said 'maybe'. Could be the key-word for a lot of people...
Too bad that people without personal knowledge about security issues comment on such.
For you followers who only read articles from less competent authors about security issues in IE I?d like to inform you of certain facts. The IE as of today is not especially insecure. If you update your OS with security patches then you automatically patch the issues of IE. The problem IE has is that it?s attached to the OS, NOT that the engine is more insecure than any other, and I, with many others, DO hope it will be detached in a near future for security reasons. Most ignorant users think that IE is insecure and that other browsers are secure. Fact is that IE is quite secure as is now and most of what you read is not true. Other browsers too have security vulnerabilities every now and then too, of course not as often which is quite normal considering the amount of computers running the different browsers. You want to hack or spread virii, you code or search for breaches in the mostly used system/browser.
Since the ignorant ones reading this will be hoping I?m as ignorant as them, I will let them/you know I run FireFox too, which I both love and hate. I work with computer security issues in Macintosh, Linux, and Windows environments mostly.
I do look forward to testing a new Netscape browser.
- MSN Browser tried this earlier with little success
- too many buttons
- the UI is much too "busy" for a browser, think opera on steroids
- too complex to configure
- placement of menus nonstandard
- tab buttons are too narrow while other buttons are too big (the UI isn't efficient and smacks of an amateur UI designer)
My advice:
Use Firefox instead and simply use the "View with IE" extension as needed
Everyone by now knows that IE is extremely insecure...that's why all this is happening in the first place. You may think that IE6.0 covered by SP2 is the most secure thing available....
well....it isn't.
With each new incarnation and/or update, the security situation becomes worse.
AOL owns Netscape and is in bed with Mozilla. For this and ONLY this reason, I will never use Netscape, Firefox, the AOL browser, or anything else connected with AOL. Everything AOL touches turns into a security issue with advertising and too much ability for the user to be remotely watched and/or controlled.
The fact that these things are new is NO reason to use them.
As far as I am concerned, there are only two fixes for security problems....
1) The lack of appropriate education on behalf of users MUST be addressed
2) Browsers need to start filtering out (ignoring...if you will) code that is embeded into the HTML, java, and other sources of webpages. I do not believe this is going to happen. For example: the html code that produces popups should be totally ignored by the browser---if it were, then there would be no need at all for installing additional software to close a popup after it has been downloaded. I know that HTML is not the only method used, but this is just an example.
What I see is that we are being lied to by these people because if we use their product...they make more money.
I am NOT interested in "bells and whistles". I want honesty.
The screenshot given shows the current temporature...this tells me that this new browser can go out to the internet and retrieve data for display...this to me is dangerous. I do not want my browser to "get" anything from the net that I didn't tell it to. Maybe it can be adjusted otherwise...but this gives it a thumbs down from me. Weatherbug does this and Weatherbug is spyware.
The point to all this.....
Newer does NOT mean better, it just means newer.
- New Netscape embraces Firefox, IE
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- I really don't think I will be using that browser. I tried Firefox and didn't like it. I truly dislike IE, so why would I want a browser that has two of the things I don't like incorporated in it? Why copy from others when you can just glorify what you have? Why do they think that what they have is inferior? Might want to figure out why people use netscape before they start copying the browser that their clients are "not" using?
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(17 Comments)I honestly hope the test market for it fails. If I have to, I will look for a different browser, although I do enjoy netscape. I will use this version until I it's no longer compatible with the sites I frequent.