July 5, 2006 5:45 AM PDT

Identity thief finds easy money hard to resist

Shiva Brent Sharma's account of his exploits provides an insight into both the tools and the motivation of a thief.
The New York Times

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Digital Duping
The article shows the massive impact one phisher can make in the lives of people. While his 100 returns from the fake AOL site of personal information may seem minute in comparison to the VA data leak, the reality of cleaning up the mess from ID theft to those 100 individuals is itself catastrophic. <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.essentialsecurity.com/Documents/article16.htm" target="_newWindow">http://www.essentialsecurity.com/Documents/article16.htm</a>

If the government is aware of sites like Carderplanet.com which are "an excellent opportunity to learn," as the rep from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service's international group stated, why not go after those who pose a threat to so many individuals. C'mon, to catch a thief, you have to think like one - and they don't all hang around nice places.
Posted by marileev (292 comments )
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Good suggestion but. . .
umm, as you know, one cannot just shutdown a website simply for providing information. The bill of rights protects the free exchange of ideas, legal or illegal.

For example, it is not illegal to talk about robbing a store or even commiting a murder - as long as there is NO intent to carry through.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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Digital Duping
The article shows the massive impact one phisher can make in the lives of people. While his 100 returns from the fake AOL site of personal information may seem minute in comparison to the VA data leak, the reality of cleaning up the mess from ID theft to those 100 individuals is itself catastrophic. <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.essentialsecurity.com/Documents/article16.htm" target="_newWindow">http://www.essentialsecurity.com/Documents/article16.htm</a>

If the government is aware of sites like Carderplanet.com which are "an excellent opportunity to learn," as the rep from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service's international group stated, why not go after those who pose a threat to so many individuals. C'mon, to catch a thief, you have to think like one - and they don't all hang around nice places.
Posted by marileev (292 comments )
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Good suggestion but. . .
umm, as you know, one cannot just shutdown a website simply for providing information. The bill of rights protects the free exchange of ideas, legal or illegal.

For example, it is not illegal to talk about robbing a store or even commiting a murder - as long as there is NO intent to carry through.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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Make counterfeiting ID the same crime as counterfeiting $$
Make the counterfeiting of IDs the same crime as counterfeiting money, and you see how easy it would be for these scums to "resist".

Better yet, make it a death penalty. They like to kill your ID, let's kill them for real. It's a good thing. Especially if you take them out before the spawn and further infest the gene pool.
Posted by kamwmail-cnet1 (292 comments )
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idiotic suggestion
another not well thought out suggestion. This comes up all the time.

Genetics are not the only shapers of behavior.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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Make counterfeiting ID the same crime as counterfeiting $$
Make the counterfeiting of IDs the same crime as counterfeiting money, and you see how easy it would be for these scums to "resist".

Better yet, make it a death penalty. They like to kill your ID, let's kill them for real. It's a good thing. Especially if you take them out before the spawn and further infest the gene pool.
Posted by kamwmail-cnet1 (292 comments )
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idiotic suggestion
another not well thought out suggestion. This comes up all the time.

Genetics are not the only shapers of behavior.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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Should be treated as a Real criminal
Steal $150,000 from a bank, you go to jail for a long time. Steal it from ordinary people, you get a "don't do it again" speech and put back on the street. What is wrong here? How can this be a deterrent to crime?

I work in internet security, and I don't get job satisfaction when I see the bad guys win.
Posted by Marcus Westrup (630 comments )
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actually no. .
Let us say for example, the bank is closing for the day and someone rushes in, and hands the bank manager a suitcase of money to deposit. For some reason, the bank manager puts the suitcase down. You are already in the bank, and you walk by, pick up the suitcase, and walk out. Guess what, you serve less time that the kid in this article. The reason people tend to do hard time for bank robberies. . . or at least (you think they do) is because the main robberies you hear about. . are armed robberies (yeah, blame the media). As you have no doubt figured out by now, armed robberies are more than being about the actual robbing of the bank. . . there is the use of a deadly weapon charge involved.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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oh and btw
he is a real criminal. . . so, by definition, he is already being treated as one.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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Should be treated as a Real criminal
Steal $150,000 from a bank, you go to jail for a long time. Steal it from ordinary people, you get a "don't do it again" speech and put back on the street. What is wrong here? How can this be a deterrent to crime?

I work in internet security, and I don't get job satisfaction when I see the bad guys win.
Posted by Marcus Westrup (630 comments )
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actually no. .
Let us say for example, the bank is closing for the day and someone rushes in, and hands the bank manager a suitcase of money to deposit. For some reason, the bank manager puts the suitcase down. You are already in the bank, and you walk by, pick up the suitcase, and walk out. Guess what, you serve less time that the kid in this article. The reason people tend to do hard time for bank robberies. . . or at least (you think they do) is because the main robberies you hear about. . are armed robberies (yeah, blame the media). As you have no doubt figured out by now, armed robberies are more than being about the actual robbing of the bank. . . there is the use of a deadly weapon charge involved.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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oh and btw
he is a real criminal. . . so, by definition, he is already being treated as one.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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Whatta Jerk
I love how the guy talks about "the most I ever made"--like it was his job and he earned the money. Try, "the most I ever *stole*." He doesn't seem to think that what he did was so bad.
Posted by stmon99 (32 comments )
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which guy?
Cuz, from what I could tell, both the author of the article, and the thief were using the same language to describe the guy's exploits.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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Whatta Jerk
I love how the guy talks about "the most I ever made"--like it was his job and he earned the money. Try, "the most I ever *stole*." He doesn't seem to think that what he did was so bad.
Posted by stmon99 (32 comments )
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which guy?
Cuz, from what I could tell, both the author of the article, and the thief were using the same language to describe the guy's exploits.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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We are the Morans
How many times in that article did the "Authorities" know he was doing it again, and they did nothing?

We the honest citizens in life are the ones that continually allow this to happen. Is there anyone that really believes he will stay clean and not do this again? He is in love with the challenge, and will do it again and again. Why? Because we refuse to do anything to stop him. It is too much work to do the right thing.
Posted by juchestyle (21 comments )
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We are the Morans
How many times in that article did the "Authorities" know he was doing it again, and they did nothing?

We the honest citizens in life are the ones that continually allow this to happen. Is there anyone that really believes he will stay clean and not do this again? He is in love with the challenge, and will do it again and again. Why? Because we refuse to do anything to stop him. It is too much work to do the right thing.
Posted by juchestyle (21 comments )
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A thief is a thief is a thief
What difference does it make how he got the money? Whether he stole it in person or stole it online, he's still a stinkin' thief! A slap on the wrist and a warning not to do it again are a sad commentary on our justice system (more like a "lack of justice" system). If Zippy commits identity theft after he's released, the cops better come down on him like a ton of bricks.
Posted by Get_Bent (534 comments )
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A thief is a thief is a thief
What difference does it make how he got the money? Whether he stole it in person or stole it online, he's still a stinkin' thief! A slap on the wrist and a warning not to do it again are a sad commentary on our justice system (more like a "lack of justice" system). If Zippy commits identity theft after he's released, the cops better come down on him like a ton of bricks.
Posted by Get_Bent (534 comments )
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Umm zero
Yep. According to the story, each time the authorities knew he was doing something, they setup a sting, then arrested him.

Perhaps you are an immigrant to America from some place where the mere suspicion that you were up to no good was enough to have you arrested and carted away. Perhaps in your country, if you stole a loaf of bread once, and one year later, a loaf of bread went missing, you would be immediately executed because "nobody else coulda done it". Perhaps in your country, it is foresight that is 20/20 not hindsight.

Well, I welcome you to America. Good luck.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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Umm zero
Yep. According to the story, each time the authorities knew he was doing something, they setup a sting, then arrested him.

Perhaps you are an immigrant to America from some place where the mere suspicion that you were up to no good was enough to have you arrested and carted away. Perhaps in your country, if you stole a loaf of bread once, and one year later, a loaf of bread went missing, you would be immediately executed because "nobody else coulda done it". Perhaps in your country, it is foresight that is 20/20 not hindsight.

Well, I welcome you to America. Good luck.
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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exactly!
You are absolutely right. And it starts when they are children!

We should execute everyone who steals. After all, if we catch them when they are still young stealing cookies, then they won't be around to steal our identities! Right?
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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exactly!
You are absolutely right. And it starts when they are children!

We should execute everyone who steals. After all, if we catch them when they are still young stealing cookies, then they won't be around to steal our identities! Right?
Posted by zboot (168 comments )
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What Did His Parents And Wife Think Was Going On?
Missing from this story is any information on just what the perps family and wife thought was going on. Where did they think a teenager was getting $150,000 from? The money to stay in luxury hotels? Maybe there is a reason his parents moved to Florida, a haven for con and scam artists.
Posted by CancerMan2 (74 comments )
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This guy is a horrible criminal.
He had stuff shipped to his home address? Transfered money to his own accounts? This guy will be in prison for the rest of his life in the near future.
Posted by dingleberry420 (21 comments )
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What Did His Parents And Wife Think Was Going On?
Missing from this story is any information on just what the perps family and wife thought was going on. Where did they think a teenager was getting $150,000 from? The money to stay in luxury hotels? Maybe there is a reason his parents moved to Florida, a haven for con and scam artists.
Posted by CancerMan2 (74 comments )
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This guy is a horrible criminal.
He had stuff shipped to his home address? Transfered money to his own accounts? This guy will be in prison for the rest of his life in the near future.
Posted by dingleberry420 (21 comments )
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typical of lax immigration policy
This criminal should have been deported back to Trinidad after his first crime.
Posted by Jackson Cracker (272 comments )
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Incorrect assesment
How the hell was immigration supposed to know that he will be like it. He immigrated when he was six!!!

It is in this country he gained his knowledge of computers and his tricks!!!

There are many native born citizens in this country who are doing the same. Trust me if he deported, he will be able to do the same things as he could do from united states. Atleast, when he stays in united states, he can be punished.

Commenting on immigration policy is prejudicial.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Aren't u judgemental
How the hell was immigration supposed to know that he will be like it. He immigrated when he was six!!!

It is in this country he gained his knowledge of computers and his tricks!!!

There are many native born citizens in this country who are doing the same. Trust me if he deported, he will be able to do the same things as he could do from united states. Atleast, when he stays in united states, he can be punished.

Commenting on immigration policy is prejudicial.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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typical of lax immigration policy
This criminal should have been deported back to Trinidad after his first crime.
Posted by Jackson Cracker (272 comments )
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Incorrect assesment
How the hell was immigration supposed to know that he will be like it. He immigrated when he was six!!!

It is in this country he gained his knowledge of computers and his tricks!!!

There are many native born citizens in this country who are doing the same. Trust me if he deported, he will be able to do the same things as he could do from united states. Atleast, when he stays in united states, he can be punished.

Commenting on immigration policy is prejudicial.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Aren't u judgemental
How the hell was immigration supposed to know that he will be like it. He immigrated when he was six!!!

It is in this country he gained his knowledge of computers and his tricks!!!

There are many native born citizens in this country who are doing the same. Trust me if he deported, he will be able to do the same things as he could do from united states. Atleast, when he stays in united states, he can be punished.

Commenting on immigration policy is prejudicial.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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Nothing but low down common thief
A leopard never changes it spots and neither will this guy be reformed--the cocky little s**t. They should lock him up for good and throw away the key. Otherwise, who knows, YOU may be his next victim!
Posted by WJeansonne (480 comments )
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Nothing but low down common thief
A leopard never changes it spots and neither will this guy be reformed--the cocky little s**t. They should lock him up for good and throw away the key. Otherwise, who knows, YOU may be his next victim!
Posted by WJeansonne (480 comments )
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