Microsoft has confirmed that its upcoming version of Internet Explorer will include tabbed browsing, a feature made popular by competitors Opera Software and Firefox.
In a Microsoft blog, IE product unit manager Dean Hachamovitch told consumers not to expect too much from tabbed browsing in IE's beta offering.
"The tabbed browsing experience in the upcoming IE 7 beta is pretty basic," he said. "The main goal for tabs in our beta release is to make sure our implementation delivers on compatibility and security. The variety of IE configurations and add-ins across the Internet is tremendous."
Hachamovitch said his team would seek feedback to help iron out bugs in the feature. "We've also looked closely at reported vulnerabilities in other implementations of tabbed browsing," he said.
The IE executive also explained the motivation behind keeping the feature--which has been available for some years in competing products--out of IE until now.
"Some people have asked why we didn't put tabs in IE sooner," he said. "Initially, we had some concerns around complexity and consistency--will it confuse users more than it benefits them? Is it confusing if IE has tabs, but other core parts of the Windows experience, like Windows Media Player or the shell, don't have tabs?"
Hachamovitch admitted he thinks his company made the wrong decision on tabs--a decision he is happy to reverse.
But the reversal is not good enough for at least one Firefox developer. The open-source browser's release manager and quality assurance lead, Asa Dotzler, posted a response on his own blog to the IE 7 update.
"I suspect that this announcement could be translated to 'we decided late in the game that we needed tabs and they're nowhere near done, so don't flame us when you see them,'" Dotzler wrote.
The Firefox developer contended that Microsoft's motivation in adding the tabbed browsing feature was more related to preserving its software monopoly than providing services to its users.
"Does this mean that the IE 7 user won't benefit? No, not at all. Just because their motivation is lame doesn't mean that the resulting software will suck. But I do think that all software bears the mark of the motivation behind its creation."
"With Firefox, I think our motives are obvious to our users. People understand that we're working to make the Web better for them," he added.
Hachamovitch, however, pointed out that people have been able to use tabbed browsing with the existing version of IE for some time by using freely downloadable third-party solutions like the one provided by Maxthon.
"I think all of these are great," he said. "They demonstrate how extensible the IE platform is. They also provide tabbed browsing in IE on top of Windows versions (like Windows 98) that IE 7 will not support."
I'm getting tired of this whole browser BS. I still use IE. Why? Because I install my patches, run a firewall and MS Antispyware. I havent had issues with IE since Windows 98. I've tryed Firefox and Mozilla, Opera and others. But really, All I want is a browser that takes me to the place I want to go. To me, The more features, the worst off you are. Tabbed browsing sucks, I dont need to "Skin" my browser, I could care less about autoscroll features. IE is still the fastest browser out there.
Since you seem to be interested in simplicity, there is a much simpler browser out there you should consider: Lynx...... No tab browsing, only text... At the end who need such a fancy graphical interface?
Tabbed browsing exactly does that, eases the navigation, so that you need not always search among the clutter of opened browser windows which one you want to open. Bottomline, Tabbed browsing saves time for me and improves my experience.
I use Firefox, but nobody is telling you that you must use the browser.
I honestly love the skins, not having MS add back the links I don't want every week, tabbed browsing is quicker and easier than having a dozen IE windows on the screen, and I rest at-ease knowing if Abe Vigoda is alive or not. It runs faster thanks to a few tweaks I made. It runs much quicker "getting me where I want to go" than IE.
I've enjoyed seeing all the dumb software and such install links and such for IE but not Firefox.
In all, it is in every way a better experience for me than IE. I don't think anything will bring me back to IE. Besides I don't think they are going to be smart enough to create a way to import my FF bookmarks.
I'm actually a fan of IE. Been using it since version 2.0. I've found myself using Firefox more and more for research though.
Reason 1: Tab browsing. In Firefox, when you center click on a link the page opens in a new tab. The key here is that the program doesn't put the new tab in the foreground (unlike opening in a new window in IE). This is extremely convinient when you're going through a list of search results. It lets you pick out pages potentially of interest while continuing to scan through the list. You can also close a tab without having to bring it into the foreground by center clicking.
Reason 2: The find bar. In IE you're stuck with the clunky find dialog box. Firefox has a slick tool bar on the bottom of the screen that searches the page as you type. It also stays put when you navigate to another page. That, again, is very convinient when you're going through search results.
May I just translate your argument into proper communicable English?:
I prefer a browser that works, plain and simple. So I use IE, which isn't even a browser by any standard, but compensate by downloading antispyware crap from MS. Unfortunately, all the viruses still get through, but I have a virus scanner to take up my RAM and CPU.
I could download Firefox and replace all this, but I don't have 5MB HD space and 20MB of RAM to spare...
Also, if you have ever actually used Firefox alongside IE when checking news sites and such, you'll note that IE is not the fastest browser out there, it just caches everything in RAM and displays it all at once.
You are a fool. Tabbed browsing is the correct and convenient way to browse. It sure beats having multiple "windoze" open simultaneously. But if you'ld rather use the worst browser available then so be it. Knock yourself out.
I'm getting tired of this whole browser BS. I still use IE. Why? Because I install my patches, run a firewall and MS Antispyware. I havent had issues with IE since Windows 98. I've tryed Firefox and Mozilla, Opera and others. But really, All I want is a browser that takes me to the place I want to go. To me, The more features, the worst off you are. Tabbed browsing sucks, I dont need to "Skin" my browser, I could care less about autoscroll features. IE is still the fastest browser out there.
Since you seem to be interested in simplicity, there is a much simpler browser out there you should consider: Lynx...... No tab browsing, only text... At the end who need such a fancy graphical interface?
Tabbed browsing exactly does that, eases the navigation, so that you need not always search among the clutter of opened browser windows which one you want to open. Bottomline, Tabbed browsing saves time for me and improves my experience.
I use Firefox, but nobody is telling you that you must use the browser.
I honestly love the skins, not having MS add back the links I don't want every week, tabbed browsing is quicker and easier than having a dozen IE windows on the screen, and I rest at-ease knowing if Abe Vigoda is alive or not. It runs faster thanks to a few tweaks I made. It runs much quicker "getting me where I want to go" than IE.
I've enjoyed seeing all the dumb software and such install links and such for IE but not Firefox.
In all, it is in every way a better experience for me than IE. I don't think anything will bring me back to IE. Besides I don't think they are going to be smart enough to create a way to import my FF bookmarks.
I'm actually a fan of IE. Been using it since version 2.0. I've found myself using Firefox more and more for research though.
Reason 1: Tab browsing. In Firefox, when you center click on a link the page opens in a new tab. The key here is that the program doesn't put the new tab in the foreground (unlike opening in a new window in IE). This is extremely convinient when you're going through a list of search results. It lets you pick out pages potentially of interest while continuing to scan through the list. You can also close a tab without having to bring it into the foreground by center clicking.
Reason 2: The find bar. In IE you're stuck with the clunky find dialog box. Firefox has a slick tool bar on the bottom of the screen that searches the page as you type. It also stays put when you navigate to another page. That, again, is very convinient when you're going through search results.
May I just translate your argument into proper communicable English?:
I prefer a browser that works, plain and simple. So I use IE, which isn't even a browser by any standard, but compensate by downloading antispyware crap from MS. Unfortunately, all the viruses still get through, but I have a virus scanner to take up my RAM and CPU.
I could download Firefox and replace all this, but I don't have 5MB HD space and 20MB of RAM to spare...
Also, if you have ever actually used Firefox alongside IE when checking news sites and such, you'll note that IE is not the fastest browser out there, it just caches everything in RAM and displays it all at once.
You are a fool. Tabbed browsing is the correct and convenient way to browse. It sure beats having multiple "windoze" open simultaneously. But if you'ld rather use the worst browser available then so be it. Knock yourself out.
The Firefox extensions are probably the first thing spyware developers etc will target (like they did ActiveX). Even with the most secure software the user is the weakest link. An uninformed user is as serious as any buffer overflow or remote exploit. That said, I find I use Mozilla almost exclusively for browsing and email except when I run Windows update.
The Firefox extensions are probably the first thing spyware developers etc will target (like they did ActiveX). Even with the most secure software the user is the weakest link. An uninformed user is as serious as any buffer overflow or remote exploit. That said, I find I use Mozilla almost exclusively for browsing and email except when I run Windows update.
I don't see what the big fuss about adding tabbed browsing to any browser is. I can recall a browser/editor program I used 10 years ago that had tabbed browsing and page pre-fetching. Can't say I recall the name of the software, but think AOL ended up buying it and killing it. Too bad, really as it was ahead of its time as tabbed browsers didn't go mainstream until Opera (though not wide-spread) and Firefox.
Dude, understand that no feature really matters until Pope Gates blesses it, then the great Church of Microsoft Media can trumpet the news. All the media care about is what Pope Gates has to say, and none will question the fact that he is once again late to the party. And once again the revisionist history will begin: Bill invented the PC. Bill invented the GUI. Bill invented the Internet. Bill invented the Browser. Bill invented downloadable music. Bill invented Tabbed Browsing. Barf. Barf. Barf.
I don't see what the big fuss about adding tabbed browsing to any browser is. I can recall a browser/editor program I used 10 years ago that had tabbed browsing and page pre-fetching. Can't say I recall the name of the software, but think AOL ended up buying it and killing it. Too bad, really as it was ahead of its time as tabbed browsers didn't go mainstream until Opera (though not wide-spread) and Firefox.
Dude, understand that no feature really matters until Pope Gates blesses it, then the great Church of Microsoft Media can trumpet the news. All the media care about is what Pope Gates has to say, and none will question the fact that he is once again late to the party. And once again the revisionist history will begin: Bill invented the PC. Bill invented the GUI. Bill invented the Internet. Bill invented the Browser. Bill invented downloadable music. Bill invented Tabbed Browsing. Barf. Barf. Barf.
Tabbed browser? WOW! What will the billion dollar R&D MS gang think of next? Our IE monopoly fell from 97% to 90% share of the market (so says MS & paid consultants).
Gee, Netscape,Safari,Firefox,Opera, etc. ALL have tabbed browsing features & have had them for quite awhile Uncle Bill.
The Internet is the Great Democracy of flowing information for the Public, not the "tollGATE" IE wants to be. Use what ever browser you wish, but don't start a new million dollar MS campaign about "GOT IE?" Jurassic Park in Redmond...been there,done that,no thanks Citizen Gates.
Tabbed browser? WOW! What will the billion dollar R&D MS gang think of next? Our IE monopoly fell from 97% to 90% share of the market (so says MS & paid consultants).
Gee, Netscape,Safari,Firefox,Opera, etc. ALL have tabbed browsing features & have had them for quite awhile Uncle Bill.
The Internet is the Great Democracy of flowing information for the Public, not the "tollGATE" IE wants to be. Use what ever browser you wish, but don't start a new million dollar MS campaign about "GOT IE?" Jurassic Park in Redmond...been there,done that,no thanks Citizen Gates.
that it really erks the IE guys that the whole argument they have been making Microsoft is breaking.
IE 7 is supposed to have better standards or "recomendation" support.
IE 7 is supposed to have tab browsing.
IE 7 is basically copying Firefox and Opera.
You know what though... I don't care. I am happy to see that IE is going to get features it needs. People can say what they want, but I have no doubt that these improvements are because of Firefox and Developers request.
Web developers are no doubt tired of trying to rewrite webpages to match every browser. I personally won't. I write my webpages based on standards that work across at least three browsers. Opera, Firefox/Mozilla, Safari, or Netscape. If it won't work in IE thats too bad.
I have people who don't like it, but I try to explain why it doesn't work and show them an alternitive. Some are ok with it. Some are not. Although I don't care for Microsoft as a whole I don't try to write code that is purposely incompatable with IE. However, I am not going to spend an extra week rewriting good code to make it work with one browser.
You can take this how you want, but even Microsoft is admiting that IE 6 isn't up to par. They are now making efforts to match the other browsers. If you can't see that then you are blind. Period.
that it really erks the IE guys that the whole argument they have been making Microsoft is breaking.
IE 7 is supposed to have better standards or "recomendation" support.
IE 7 is supposed to have tab browsing.
IE 7 is basically copying Firefox and Opera.
You know what though... I don't care. I am happy to see that IE is going to get features it needs. People can say what they want, but I have no doubt that these improvements are because of Firefox and Developers request.
Web developers are no doubt tired of trying to rewrite webpages to match every browser. I personally won't. I write my webpages based on standards that work across at least three browsers. Opera, Firefox/Mozilla, Safari, or Netscape. If it won't work in IE thats too bad.
I have people who don't like it, but I try to explain why it doesn't work and show them an alternitive. Some are ok with it. Some are not. Although I don't care for Microsoft as a whole I don't try to write code that is purposely incompatable with IE. However, I am not going to spend an extra week rewriting good code to make it work with one browser.
You can take this how you want, but even Microsoft is admiting that IE 6 isn't up to par. They are now making efforts to match the other browsers. If you can't see that then you are blind. Period.
People are switching because IE is made by one immoral company
Not necessarily because FF offers better user experience, but because it's good enough to dump IE and feel the cold stifling clasp ease. It's the era of communist dictatorship in the software industry, where Microsoft is the Communist Party and people using Firefox are defectors, enjoying democratic freedoms in a foreign land.
People are switching because IE is made by one immoral company
Not necessarily because FF offers better user experience, but because it's good enough to dump IE and feel the cold stifling clasp ease. It's the era of communist dictatorship in the software industry, where Microsoft is the Communist Party and people using Firefox are defectors, enjoying democratic freedoms in a foreign land.
Copy cats. Of course, IE will have to add a lot of Firefox/Mozilla and Opera features. Until Longhorn, Firefox will continue to gain more and more users.
Copy cats. Of course, IE will have to add a lot of Firefox/Mozilla and Opera features. Until Longhorn, Firefox will continue to gain more and more users.
Personally once IE has tabbed browsing (natively, not with some add-on) I will change back from Firefox to IE. Why? Because aside from being a CPU hog it cannot run each window as a separate process. If one window is busy (as it often happens with PDF files) then all are. If one window crashes (yes I am using the newest version with no plugins) that all do. At least once a week it crashes on me, and I loose all of those wonderful tabs.
Personally once IE has tabbed browsing (natively, not with some add-on) I will change back from Firefox to IE. Why? Because aside from being a CPU hog it cannot run each window as a separate process. If one window is busy (as it often happens with PDF files) then all are. If one window crashes (yes I am using the newest version with no plugins) that all do. At least once a week it crashes on me, and I loose all of those wonderful tabs.
look at it this way. MS doesn't make money off IE. it's simply a platform extension of the explorer shell. people use it because it feels familiar. because for a long time, it was freely available and offered built-in support for most web standards, something i find firefox is a little behind in. MS perhaps didn't feel like it needed to innovate IE b/c they had a dominant user share, there was almost no serious competition in browsers, and it provides no revenue. IE still holds 90%+ of the browser market. MS is not out to screw the users; they just got complacent. now firefox has momentum and is gaining in popularity and MS has been forced to take notice. now, they are beginning to make some changes. but do they absolutely NEED to? so what if firefox takes market share? does it hurt MS's balance sheet? perhaps just a little mind share.
on a tangent, with the web standards support, i do almost exclusively use firefox, but find that i still need to download java and flash extensions, etc. which don't always download properly. i also get a lot of pages that aren't displayed properly in firefox, but have never encountered this problem in IE. overall, i find the firefox experience is still much better than IE, which is why i use it. but i still keep IE around in case a form displayed in firefox is mangled beyond readability. that, plus the forced-acknowledge "cannot open" dialogue box that firefox pops up when it can't open a page kind of annoys me. i hope they eventually change it.
While Microsoft may not be explicitly "out to get" their users, they've just an extremely good job of doing just that. Using IE, I've otten one virus and around ten spywares. Since switching to FF, oth of those numbers have dropped to zero.
Also, as any good web programmer will tell you, IE is not even a web browser. It has effectively no standards compliability. All of my DHTML is perfectly standard, and IE can't even display it.
Simple incompetency? At least the second word is correct.
People use IE because: it's bundled and the default
They don't use it because it's better. Haven't you figured that out?
You have no clue as to the business aspects of this battle.
Why do you think Microsoft thought Netscape was a propblem?? It was becasue developers were writing software for the browser and this made hte Operatings System (Windows) secondary.
look at it this way. MS doesn't make money off IE. it's simply a platform extension of the explorer shell. people use it because it feels familiar. because for a long time, it was freely available and offered built-in support for most web standards, something i find firefox is a little behind in. MS perhaps didn't feel like it needed to innovate IE b/c they had a dominant user share, there was almost no serious competition in browsers, and it provides no revenue. IE still holds 90%+ of the browser market. MS is not out to screw the users; they just got complacent. now firefox has momentum and is gaining in popularity and MS has been forced to take notice. now, they are beginning to make some changes. but do they absolutely NEED to? so what if firefox takes market share? does it hurt MS's balance sheet? perhaps just a little mind share.
on a tangent, with the web standards support, i do almost exclusively use firefox, but find that i still need to download java and flash extensions, etc. which don't always download properly. i also get a lot of pages that aren't displayed properly in firefox, but have never encountered this problem in IE. overall, i find the firefox experience is still much better than IE, which is why i use it. but i still keep IE around in case a form displayed in firefox is mangled beyond readability. that, plus the forced-acknowledge "cannot open" dialogue box that firefox pops up when it can't open a page kind of annoys me. i hope they eventually change it.
While Microsoft may not be explicitly "out to get" their users, they've just an extremely good job of doing just that. Using IE, I've otten one virus and around ten spywares. Since switching to FF, oth of those numbers have dropped to zero.
Also, as any good web programmer will tell you, IE is not even a web browser. It has effectively no standards compliability. All of my DHTML is perfectly standard, and IE can't even display it.
Simple incompetency? At least the second word is correct.
People use IE because: it's bundled and the default
They don't use it because it's better. Haven't you figured that out?
You have no clue as to the business aspects of this battle.
Why do you think Microsoft thought Netscape was a propblem?? It was becasue developers were writing software for the browser and this made hte Operatings System (Windows) secondary.
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Bottomline, Tabbed browsing saves time for me and improves my experience.
I honestly love the skins, not having MS add back the links I don't want every week, tabbed browsing is quicker and easier than having a dozen IE windows on the screen, and I rest at-ease knowing if Abe Vigoda is alive or not. It runs faster thanks to a few tweaks I made. It runs much quicker "getting me where I want to go" than IE.
I've enjoyed seeing all the dumb software and such install links and such for IE but not Firefox.
In all, it is in every way a better experience for me than IE. I don't think anything will bring me back to IE. Besides I don't think they are going to be smart enough to create a way to import my FF bookmarks.
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You are complaisant with mediocrity - most people want things to progress and technology to be more innovative.
No one cares what you use. If it was up to you, the Internet would not have progressed past Internet Explorer 3 and Netscape 4.
Get lost.
Reason 1: Tab browsing. In Firefox, when you center click on a link the page opens in a new tab. The key here is that the program doesn't put the new tab in the foreground (unlike opening in a new window in IE). This is extremely convinient when you're going through a list of search results. It lets you pick out pages potentially of interest while continuing to scan through the list. You can also close a tab without having to bring it into the foreground by center clicking.
Reason 2: The find bar. In IE you're stuck with the clunky find dialog box. Firefox has a slick tool bar on the bottom of the screen that searches the page as you type. It also stays put when you navigate to another page. That, again, is very convinient when you're going through search results.
I prefer a browser that works, plain and simple. So I use IE, which isn't even a browser by any standard, but compensate by downloading antispyware crap from MS. Unfortunately, all the viruses still get through, but I have a virus scanner to take up my RAM and CPU.
I could download Firefox and replace all this, but I don't have 5MB HD space and 20MB of RAM to spare...
Also, if you have ever actually used Firefox alongside IE when checking news sites and such, you'll note that IE is not the fastest browser out there, it just caches everything in RAM and displays it all at once.
Bottomline, Tabbed browsing saves time for me and improves my experience.
I honestly love the skins, not having MS add back the links I don't want every week, tabbed browsing is quicker and easier than having a dozen IE windows on the screen, and I rest at-ease knowing if Abe Vigoda is alive or not. It runs faster thanks to a few tweaks I made. It runs much quicker "getting me where I want to go" than IE.
I've enjoyed seeing all the dumb software and such install links and such for IE but not Firefox.
In all, it is in every way a better experience for me than IE. I don't think anything will bring me back to IE. Besides I don't think they are going to be smart enough to create a way to import my FF bookmarks.
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You are complaisant with mediocrity - most people want things to progress and technology to be more innovative.
No one cares what you use. If it was up to you, the Internet would not have progressed past Internet Explorer 3 and Netscape 4.
Get lost.
Reason 1: Tab browsing. In Firefox, when you center click on a link the page opens in a new tab. The key here is that the program doesn't put the new tab in the foreground (unlike opening in a new window in IE). This is extremely convinient when you're going through a list of search results. It lets you pick out pages potentially of interest while continuing to scan through the list. You can also close a tab without having to bring it into the foreground by center clicking.
Reason 2: The find bar. In IE you're stuck with the clunky find dialog box. Firefox has a slick tool bar on the bottom of the screen that searches the page as you type. It also stays put when you navigate to another page. That, again, is very convinient when you're going through search results.
I prefer a browser that works, plain and simple. So I use IE, which isn't even a browser by any standard, but compensate by downloading antispyware crap from MS. Unfortunately, all the viruses still get through, but I have a virus scanner to take up my RAM and CPU.
I could download Firefox and replace all this, but I don't have 5MB HD space and 20MB of RAM to spare...
Also, if you have ever actually used Firefox alongside IE when checking news sites and such, you'll note that IE is not the fastest browser out there, it just caches everything in RAM and displays it all at once.
well firefox pretty much does all that..
Sooner or later, dispite what others will say, all OS's will need that protection.
That said, I find I use Mozilla almost exclusively for browsing and email except when I run Windows update.
well firefox pretty much does all that..
Sooner or later, dispite what others will say, all OS's will need that protection.
That said, I find I use Mozilla almost exclusively for browsing and email except when I run Windows update.
Gee, Netscape,Safari,Firefox,Opera, etc. ALL have tabbed browsing features & have had them for quite awhile Uncle Bill.
The Internet is the Great Democracy of flowing information for the Public, not the "tollGATE" IE wants to be. Use what ever browser you wish, but don't start a new million dollar MS campaign about "GOT IE?"
Jurassic Park in Redmond...been there,done that,no thanks Citizen Gates.
Gee, Netscape,Safari,Firefox,Opera, etc. ALL have tabbed browsing features & have had them for quite awhile Uncle Bill.
The Internet is the Great Democracy of flowing information for the Public, not the "tollGATE" IE wants to be. Use what ever browser you wish, but don't start a new million dollar MS campaign about "GOT IE?"
Jurassic Park in Redmond...been there,done that,no thanks Citizen Gates.
IE 7 is supposed to have better standards or "recomendation" support.
IE 7 is supposed to have tab browsing.
IE 7 is basically copying Firefox and Opera.
You know what though... I don't care. I am happy to see that IE is going to get features it needs. People can say what they want, but I have no doubt that these improvements are because of Firefox and Developers request.
Web developers are no doubt tired of trying to rewrite webpages to match every browser. I personally won't. I write my webpages based on standards that work across at least three browsers. Opera, Firefox/Mozilla, Safari, or Netscape. If it won't work in IE thats too bad.
I have people who don't like it, but I try to explain why it doesn't work and show them an alternitive. Some are ok with it. Some are not. Although I don't care for Microsoft as a whole I don't try to write code that is purposely incompatable with IE. However, I am not going to spend an extra week rewriting good code to make it work with one browser.
You can take this how you want, but even Microsoft is admiting that IE 6 isn't up to par. They are now making efforts to match the other browsers. If you can't see that then you are blind. Period.
IE 7 is supposed to have better standards or "recomendation" support.
IE 7 is supposed to have tab browsing.
IE 7 is basically copying Firefox and Opera.
You know what though... I don't care. I am happy to see that IE is going to get features it needs. People can say what they want, but I have no doubt that these improvements are because of Firefox and Developers request.
Web developers are no doubt tired of trying to rewrite webpages to match every browser. I personally won't. I write my webpages based on standards that work across at least three browsers. Opera, Firefox/Mozilla, Safari, or Netscape. If it won't work in IE thats too bad.
I have people who don't like it, but I try to explain why it doesn't work and show them an alternitive. Some are ok with it. Some are not. Although I don't care for Microsoft as a whole I don't try to write code that is purposely incompatable with IE. However, I am not going to spend an extra week rewriting good code to make it work with one browser.
You can take this how you want, but even Microsoft is admiting that IE 6 isn't up to par. They are now making efforts to match the other browsers. If you can't see that then you are blind. Period.
If something is a good feature, why not make your software with features that users enjoy in another app.
I'd have to rewrite all my apps to not copy features of another app.
If something is a good feature, why not make your software with features that users enjoy in another app.
I'd have to rewrite all my apps to not copy features of another app.
(and they spent no money on R&D to do it)
(and they spent no money on R&D to do it)
Also, if Firefox keeps crashing, you have Windows problems. I have never had this version of Firefox crash.
Don't go back to IE; all the programmers out there forced to hack their code to support that crap browser will hate you.
Also, if Firefox keeps crashing, you have Windows problems. I have never had this version of Firefox crash.
Don't go back to IE; all the programmers out there forced to hack their code to support that crap browser will hate you.
on a tangent, with the web standards support, i do almost exclusively use firefox, but find that i still need to download java and flash extensions, etc. which don't always download properly. i also get a lot of pages that aren't displayed properly in firefox, but have never encountered this problem in IE. overall, i find the firefox experience is still much better than IE, which is why i use it. but i still keep IE around in case a form displayed in firefox is mangled beyond readability. that, plus the forced-acknowledge "cannot open" dialogue box that firefox pops up when it can't open a page kind of annoys me. i hope they eventually change it.
Also, as any good web programmer will tell you, IE is not even a web browser. It has effectively no standards compliability. All of my DHTML is perfectly standard, and IE can't even display it.
Simple incompetency? At least the second word is correct.
Why do you think MS spent all that time, effort, and money to crush Netscape? For bragging rights? No, to help increase and defend its monopoly.
Microsoft does indeed make a lot of money because of IE.
You have no clue as to the business aspects of this battle.
Why do you think Microsoft thought Netscape was a propblem??
It was becasue developers were writing software for the browser
and this made hte Operatings System (Windows) secondary.
Got it now?
on a tangent, with the web standards support, i do almost exclusively use firefox, but find that i still need to download java and flash extensions, etc. which don't always download properly. i also get a lot of pages that aren't displayed properly in firefox, but have never encountered this problem in IE. overall, i find the firefox experience is still much better than IE, which is why i use it. but i still keep IE around in case a form displayed in firefox is mangled beyond readability. that, plus the forced-acknowledge "cannot open" dialogue box that firefox pops up when it can't open a page kind of annoys me. i hope they eventually change it.
Also, as any good web programmer will tell you, IE is not even a web browser. It has effectively no standards compliability. All of my DHTML is perfectly standard, and IE can't even display it.
Simple incompetency? At least the second word is correct.
Why do you think MS spent all that time, effort, and money to crush Netscape? For bragging rights? No, to help increase and defend its monopoly.
Microsoft does indeed make a lot of money because of IE.
You have no clue as to the business aspects of this battle.
Why do you think Microsoft thought Netscape was a propblem??
It was becasue developers were writing software for the browser
and this made hte Operatings System (Windows) secondary.
Got it now?