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How quickly did the deal come together?
Iyar: It took about two weeks, 10 business days. But like I said, we had been in a dialogue with them for several years. The company was very familiar to us. Then we had to think, "OK, how do we feel about this and under what circumstances does this make sense?" My philosophy has always been the company wouldn't be sold, but it could always be bought by the right partner.

Do you think WebEx will be able to maintain the same entrepreneurial spirit once it's integrated into a multibillion dollar behemoth like Cisco?
Iyar: That was one of the criteria in doing this deal: Will the chances of success be the same or greater as part of Cisco? And we felt strongly it would be better. Cisco has done a fantastic job integrating start-ups. Charlie Giancarlo and Ned Hooper, who led the effort for the acquisition, came from start-ups Cisco acquired. That was a strong statement to us. And given the complementary nature of our services, plus the way (Cisco) handled the Scientific-Atlanta and Linksys acquisitions, it made us feel like becoming part of Cisco would be like putting us on steroids.

Being a public company puts constraints on the choices you can make. But being part of a larger entity with complementary skills can help grow the business faster, and it can be good for employees.

You mentioned that Charlie Giancarlo, chief development officer for Cisco, came to Cisco through an acquisition. How long do you think you'll stick around?
Iyar: I am committed to this. WebEx is my baby. I have built this company since day one. I invested my family's savings in this company for the first few years. So I am committed to ensuring its legacy. There are also legal commitments which are pretty typical.

Do you see a future with Cisco beyond your legal commitment? A lot of Cisco execs, like Giancarlo for example, stick around for years.
Iyar: I like building businesses. And doing it on your own is painful. I'm not as young as I was 10 years ago. So if I have the ability to be an entrepreneur, which I believe this company uniquely affords, I am committed and open to opportunities. I need a reason to get up every day and feel excited about something.

Do you know or have you worked with the Cisco execs in the past?
Iyar: My staff has worked with Cisco's unified communications staff. I've never worked with Charlie. But I've had friends who have. So when I did some cross-checking with key people, the feedback I got was extremely good. 

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What about Adobe?
by ktrueman March 19, 2007 6:55 AM PDT
You have to figure that Adobe was one of the interested parties, what with the addition of collaboration features to Acrobat, as well as the increasing use of Flash-based environments for collaboration...

Would have been a nicer fit culturally with an application than with Cisco that is a hardware shop...
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Better Fit with Cisco
by Bevo4138 March 19, 2007 7:20 AM PDT
Cisco is a networking company. WebEx is a communication-over-network company.

I use WebEx frequently with my company, and more often than not, we use the "share desktop" feature to look at other apps. Recording meetings is also great for training purposes. So I would think that being the best on the networking aspect is the most critical, where actual Acrobat type documents and Flash animations are distant secondary and tertiary features.
Best fit? More cash.
by Schratboy March 19, 2007 7:30 AM PDT
Cisco continues in its pursuit of end-to-end networking, fork-lift network replacement and promoting never getting fired for buying their stuff.

I think that beyond a certain point all these products and services being bundled together can actually deliver less value to the client. One-stop-shopping aside, I think it breeds customer laziness, not that there aren't raft loads of lazy IT administrators, such that if every conceivable product under the sun is right there, what incentive is there to do the right (and objectively best) thing for the company?
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Webex is the market leader! what about eAuditorium
by Dean_Ansari March 19, 2007 8:27 AM PDT
Try using Webex and then try using eAuditorium and you will see that whereas Webex is a nightmare to use, eAuditorium is a joy.
Because the user interface of Webex is so unfriendly & getting the Voice to work
is a total headache. And on top of that you pay more than $5,000 per month for a 100 Seats web conferencing through webex.
OTOH, eAuditorium is a joy to use. Because it has all the advanced web conferencing features and its user interface is so easy to use & just feels right.

On top of that eAuditorium is for free, we just pay for support. In fact a 100 eAuditorium
is only $995 for installation support & plus a mere $149 per month for ongoing support,
which is optional. Compare that to more than $5000 per month to Webex for same 100 seats.

So how the Hek can Webex claim to be the market leader!

In case, you want to try eAuditorium you can go here:
http://www.netdive.com/indexea.htm

Cheers :)
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Couldnt agree more
by caudio_roma March 19, 2007 9:24 AM PDT
We run a Forex trading web site from a small office here in Berlin where about 50 of us from around the world continuously trade currencies.
We needed a web conferencing solution that had great Voice conferencing for free and easy to use Application Sharing.
We 1st tried webex and it nearly drove us insane set aside costing us close to $3000 per month. Then we tried microsoft's live something and
it was even worst than webex and support was even worst.
Then we switched to eauditorium and we couldnt be happier since:
Great voice conferencing, easy to use App sharing and plus it costs us about $1K to install and we pay like $99 per month for support.
I highly recommend eaudo to all, if you want great web conf & low low prices.
This story really highlights a failure on the part of Microsoft
by mn39202 March 19, 2007 1:00 PM PDT
The only reason that web-based conferencing sites are popular is that NetMeeting isn't secure enough to meet the requirements of most corporate IT departments. What a waste to pay for a service like this when Windows already has a perfectly good tool built in.
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NetMeeting cannot handle more than 2 or 3 people!
by Manfred Levy March 20, 2007 4:47 PM PDT
Are you serious?
Netmeeting is fine for small meetings between 2 to 3 people, but a desktop PC & its typical bandwith are not setup to handle 50 in a web meeting, set aside 500, set aside 5000 which is our need. For large web conferencing needs you need a server based solution hosted on a professional ISP (datacenter) where the bandwidth is Upload & Download on a 1000 Megabit switch and not on a pathetic DSL or Cable modem at 1Mb/Sec. And there are many other reasons you could not hold a meeting of more than 2 or 3 via Netmeeting set aside the fact that Netmeeing is not for Web meeting, which is what Web conferencing is about. That is you just go to a web site and can instantly enter a meeting without having to download a software such as netmeeting.
Same here, I think eauditorium is the best 2
by kathy_torez March 19, 2007 2:13 PM PDT
We too tried many different web conferencing providers to offer Distant Learning for our online university here in Munich, including webex, and finally settled on netdive's eauditorium.
I just wished we had gone with eauditorium from the start, would have saved ourselves lots of money but more importantly would have saved on classes ruined and students lost the
1st year when we tried other web conferencing providers.

Beside eauditorium having best features and being superbly user-friendly, what I specially like about eauditorium is that we got its source code so we can change it's features as we want, saving us ton of money from being locked into a proprietary solution.

So i dont see either how the reporter is claiming "webex is market leader in web conferencing",
from my experience and everyone I have talked to eauditorium is clearly the best
web conferencing solution. I mean with web eauditorium you get the best web conferencing
technology, best user interface and it is free, you just pay for support.
Come on! Give us a break!
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My Vote goes to eAuditorium as well
by Manfred Levy March 20, 2007 4:40 PM PDT
I agree with assessment of some others here that eAuditorium is by far the best web conferencing solution. Sure in some instances webex & livemeeting are better, but when you want the best web conferencing features, total control of the web conferencing and very low costs & the source code then eAuditorium is hands down the market leader.

I say this from our experience which I will share with you:
We offer online classes to about 5000 students.
We needed a web meeting solution that would integrate with our SQL backend and our
JSP generated front end. We also needed access to the sources code so we would not be held hostage to any software company. And we needed it to be low cost too.

We looked into Webex and the cost for a 5000 Seat was in excess of $0.5Mill up front and
$100K per year in support, Oracle was close to $1.5Mill upfront, Livemeeting only offered
hosted solution. And none of these 2 offered the source code. OTOH, eAuditorium is free to license and we paid for support only which cost only $50K in annual support for 5000 seats and we got the source code for free too under netdive open source license.

Now you tell me: how the hek can webex claim that they are market leader!
For me when it comes to database MySQL is best choice, when it comes to OS Linux is best choice and when it comes to web conferencing eAuditorium is the best choice.
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