October 7, 2005 5:22 PM PDT

House backs Bush on Internet stance

Members of the U.S. House of Representatives said this week that the United States should resist international pressure to give up authority over key Internet functions amid a mounting feud over the issue.

In a letter to Commerce and State Department officials, the lawmakers said the Bush administration should retain strong oversight over the Internet domain name system, specifically the root servers that guide traffic to huge databases containing addresses for all the top-level domains, such as .com, .edu, and the country code domains like .uk and .jp.

"Given the Internet's importance to the world's economy, it is essential that the underlying domain name system of the Internet remain stable and secure," the letter said. "As such, the United States should take no action that would have the potential to adversely impact the effective and efficient operation of the domain name system. Therefore, the United States should maintain its historic role in authorizing changes or modifications to the authoritative root zone file."

The letter was signed by two Republicans and two Democrats, including Joe Barton, chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, and Fred Upton, chairman of the Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet. They addressed the letter to David Gross, U.S. coordinator for international communication and information policy at the State Department, and Michael Gallagher, head of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration.

The European Union and other nations are demanding that the U.S. share responsibility for the domain name system, including decisions over adding and deleting new top-level domains, with the United Nations. The Bush administration has so for resisted them. Officials on both sides are set to meet about the issue next month at a U.N.-sponsored summit in Tunisia.

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we started it, we control it.
we started the whole thing and we should control the whole thing. nobody was giving us money to help develope it, now everyone wants to get their stinky little hands into our cookie jar.

if ANYONE should have control over it, bill gates should get control. bill gates really did alot for computers and the internet. i mean as much as i hate to admit it, he has done more for internet/computers than anyone else period.
Posted by b34nz (6 comments )
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True
But the problem is that the US government does not even come close to actually owning it. I estimate (pulling this figure out of the usual place) that they would own under 5% of it. Thus, I hope you can understand that non-US companies (and even some US one) might be a bit concerned that something that they put money into could die over night (yes I know it is highly redundant) for reasons beyond their control.

I can see a second DNS style database being started in the next five years unless control is relaxed. What is there to stop anyone?
Posted by Andrew J Glina (1673 comments )
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Microsoft didn't have to be the only OS company for the PC revolution -- that is mostly a result of IBM making the underlying architecture of the PC open. MSFT just guaranteed they _would_ be the only OS company in the PC revolution by threatening OEMs for pre-installing anything other than Windows. Trust me; there were alternatives (OS2/Warp, BeOS).
Posted by alucinor (71 comments )
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rubbish!!!
A lot of the internet had input from other countries (not just to spread the networks into other countries) , who invented services and the bases technologies. For example one of the internets killer services WWW is in fact British, Tim Berners-Lee who is now head of the World Wide Web Consortium.

Also most of the internet uses private, education and research networks from all different countries. Why should a signal government control when they didnt fund it.

Governments just want to tax it!

I personally think there should be a global consortium that governs such matters with key members from each country.

Also&

Having Bill Gates / Microsoft in charge is stupid!!!! ( oh.. you do know that bill isnt the current ceo of Microsoft at the moment dont you?). you might as well sell your soul!
Posted by digitalgnome (228 comments )
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You might want to check your facts...
Here is the origins of the WWW as we know it:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_wide_web#Origins" target="_newWindow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_wide_web#Origins</a>

Keep in mind, the "internet" is not the WWW, but a part of it. The
US military did hire contractors who invented the precursor to
the internet, but it was closed to all but University Depts
working with the DoD, and other DoD sanctioned agencies and
contractors as a way to work more eficiently over large
distances. The modern Internet is as different from that as a
Ford Mustang is from a Model T. They're the same root, but very
different animals!

Eric
Posted by Eric W (30 comments )
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WWIII
lets just go to war over it.. whoever wins gets the internet. just kidding
Posted by (3 comments )
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How brilliant!
Do you realise that it is precisely that kind of attitude that is
hurting the image of the US abroad so much? What makes you
say that [the US] started the whole thing? Large parts were
developed at CERN for example, and the physical network has
certainly not been built by the US alone, has it?

Even *if* the US had some legitimate claim of "having started the
whole thing", does this give them the right to control it? Cars
were invented by Germans. Does this give Germany a right to
control car production in the US?
Posted by Martin Hairer (8 comments )
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Creation is not the reason for ownership
Companies from many countries pay for the hardware (including cables) which make up the net. If creation meant ownership then the following would be true;

- Your television channels and broadcasting would be controlled by the Scottish.
- Production of tanks (the ones with guns) would be controlled by the Austalians.
- Wine production would be controlled by the Italians (thanks to the Romans).

and you would not have control of many more things.

Why not wake up and smell the coffee, the net isn't a US thing anymore, a majority of it doesn't go near US soil let alone come under US juristiction, and it is used for developing useful products which without worrying aboutUS patent madenesses.

The rest of the world CAN afford to let you have your own little net which you can pass laws on while the rest of us get to use something truely useful to advance inter-country relationships in a peaceful way.
Posted by alsutton (4 comments )
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our red white and blues are showing
We are bleeding red ink all over the floor and the credit card companies now admit the cyber mafias have them beat and everyone is saying its someone else's fault which is singing the blues.

So we created it but we cannot defend it. We can attack other countries but not defend our money. I am a woman and if your wife had to choose between you keeping your money in your bank account or spending money on propaganday, what would she vote.

Let me put it another way, would you get any sleep? I love the web only because of the good on it but I got to admit it needs policing bad and the Cybercrime Treaty before the Senate admits that it is everyone's problem on enforcement.

The lawmakers cannot even agree what is illegal but the Newsweek July 4th 2005 issue made it simple. Its security OK. If the world is under attack by Russian protected cyber mafias, then it is war. OK only 40% of our accounts are affected.

My Grams in the UK is 79 years old and remembers running out kissing US soldiers when they came to fight Hitler. The French and even Dutch acted the same. Like Peacemaking, then, we should lead and not follow and recognize that whomever invented it, it is attacking everyone now.

Sorry for the rant but that's what I think. Ciao Now.

Janet
Posted by Iohagh (54 comments )
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Have no faith
Politicians are spineless cretins. If they can trade the Internet for
some other goody they want, we will be sold out in a heartbeat. If
Bush wants UN support for an invasion of Syria, then goodbye
Internet. If H. Clinton, as president, wants support for an
environmental treaty, then goodbye Internet. Any politician who
supports handing the Internet to the jackals and criminals at the
UN should be publically flogged.
Posted by nicmart (1829 comments )
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Concerns over DNS failure...
If the root DNS zone file were to "fail" for some cause of the US government, it would be rather trivial for any other government to take over the role and re-route the Internet infrastructure in their country to a new root DNS zone solution.

If the UN wanted to they could pass some legislation creating a "new International Internet" managed by the UN and using the existing infrastructure. It would have very little impact on the existing structure until they needed to make a branch. So in the end the US can refuse all they want and still lose if other powers simply take matters into their own hands.

Imagine a war of the future faught with missles, tanks and infantry over the control of the Internet. :)
Posted by zaznet (1138 comments )
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The UN is useless, helpless, and worthless...
... for any serious problems. That's been proven over and over
again. On the other hand, many UN personnel seem to know
exactly how to profit from any project they get involved in.

Somehow, I find the idea of such a defective organization trying
to control anything as essential as the Internet to be beyond
ludicrous.

And just exactly what part of the Internet does the US
Government supposedly fund ??????
Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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World drift towards 2 Internet versions
For non-US citizens this US control of the domain names feels like it's the USA controlling our currency production, as in the US making and controling the production of our ¬uro's, Pounds and Yens. This may seem of topic, but since the internet becomes more and more valuable and has become an asset on it's own. The control and ownership of the domain names has become the cornerstone of this value.

To compare it with money again: many European companies have more ¬uro's than most European governments ever see. However, it are those governments who make it. The ¬uro has been created because the French didn't like the idea of the German D-Mark to be the leading currency in Europe. And right they didn't like it, because, how could they influence their economy? They couldn't so it's transferred to the EU and now all EU members get one currency and control it joinedly.

Back to the net: the USA control on the internet doesn't only give nations an odd feeling that a "national symbol on the rise" is in the hands of a foreign nation. It can prefent them of effectively being able to make and design internet related policies. And example is the new .eu domain name. It has taken so many years before it was finally there. All because European nations had to wait for the USA to finally give a go-ahead!

Now as said, the "national symbol" is off course an exaceration. However, it can become one, more and more youngster are aware of the internet and design their identities according to it. Internet influences them and as such a .de or .nl or .uk become a mark. Also for companies, the made in Germany equivalent will be .de on the internet. And all this is in the hands of a foreign power. As if the flag and national anthem of the USA are designed and copyright protected in another nation.

The result will be that people will rally after politicians who want to reclaim national pride and control. And the presure will make that European countries, but especially proud nations as China (who dislikes any capitalist US control), India and Japan can opt for an alternative system. The technology remains, but they can create a new DNS system. Years ago I already saw an article on the alternative internet.... with domain names like .nomad and .biz (before ICCAN started to use the latest)...... that was created by a commercial ISP, so for an International body it would very well be possible to do the same, and get it widelly adopted, as the member nations will force their ISP's to adopt it.

The result: the USA will become once more islolated from the world. It becomes time they embrace the international community and stop bashing their allies. As their allies are getting fed up with the treatment of them by the USA. It's just not the way you treat your friends!
Posted by (6 comments )
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You beat me to it.
This looks like one more technology, in danger of going the way others have in the past - one standard for the US &#38; one (or more) for the rest of the world.

I'm a first generation American - I have family back in the UK. But I can't get their DVD's to work in my player (no universal code either) - just in my PC's DVD player, and additionally, I have NTSC they have PAL.

There is an isolationist movement in American society, that so many people are afraid to be participate with the rest of the world in anything - running things is OK. But some people are terrified of giving up control.

When it comes to an integrator, the US can not split its'self off. Do commerical websites want unrestricted, borderless access to 300 millioin American consumers or to 6 billion worldwide consumers?
Posted by (409 comments )
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No Gov Entity Should Have It
The Internet doesn't belong to the U.S. or the U.N. Granted, the underlying infrastructure the Internet uses belongs to each individual nation it runs through. But ultimately, what the Internet is, belongs completely to the private sector and to individuals.

Unfortunately, it is a fact of life that some semblance of order is needed for root domains. This is a very minor role, however. I don't see how the U.N. could be any more or less effective than ICANN.

This is a tiny role in making the Internet what it is. So really, this is more of a symbolic struggle than anything.

But because the role of choosing root domains is so simple, and mostly subject to recognizing national sovereinty, I think this is a task the U.N. could handle, as it's officious and trite: things they're good at.

But no government entity should have "the Internet". Not only is that practically impossible, but the fact that this argument is occuring like this at all just goes to show how little politicians understand the technology they're fighting over. The Internet is owned by PC users, by telecoms, by companies running servers, and by nation states.
Posted by alucinor (71 comments )
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Let's get rid of the busybody
Actually, the U.N. should be kicked off the face of the earth. It is littered with dictators that no one needs. As for the internet, well government likes to meddle in anything and everything, be them democrat or republican. So, what else is new?
Posted by casper2004 (267 comments )
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Who should be the master of all the Web?
Who should be the master of all the Web?

Although the worldwide web or Internet as we know it developed as a result of cold war needs to communicate without assets, meaning scientists, being put at risk personally, the cold war is over. At least the cold part of the war on the Internet since many of the cyber mafias doing the war of the worms and ID theft today are marginally or related to Russian gangs.

Our problems seem to be twofold. One how do we stop cybercrime and two who is the master web master and can we trust that person or entity to be trustworthy.

Cybercrime increases taxation indirectly since governments have to print more money to replace funds central bank guarantees guarantee so the problem needs to be addressed by all nations. This the cybercrime treaty does pell mell.

However, should the U.S., U.N., European Union, G8, World Bank or no one run the Internet is not so clear since none of these agencies can be totally trusted to represent the average users right to have access to all the date online available.

The problem is nations never set up authorities they cannot hobble with treaties or taxation so the appearance of independent actions is just that. The question begs to be asked does the Internet need a master?

The reason for this is clear if one says should one blame the road for the actions of a bad driver. The best road does not overcome alcohol or blindness or outright criminal stupidity and ill will.

Perhaps the problem we are looking at is not the problem that needs to be solved. People are up in arms at their ID and bank data being stolen and they would calm down if only a simple methodology could be developed to keep their ID offline.

That is the ID theft protection platform being built by EDI Secure LLLP that owns the single use credit card number ID patent since July 22, 2003. It is ok to debate this ad infinitum as long as citizens are no longer at risk financially. That is my opinion.
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The below is stated to update Mr. Alishtari's statements on talkback story.
The below is stated to update Mr. Alishtari's statements on talkback story.

A year ago, January 2006, EDI Secure LLLP was purchased by IDPixie LLC which owns the patent US 6,598,031 B1 granted on July 22, 2003 for APPARATUS AND METHOD FOR ROUTING ENCRYPTED TRANSACTION CARD IDENTIFYING DATA THROUGH A PUBLIC TELEPHONE NETWORK from inventor Jeffrey Ice. So to update EDI Secure LLLP's place in the marketplace, I add the above and below data.

My Pledge

I, Mr. Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Alishtari, pledge my Foundation to halt child slavery activities including his Global Peace Film Festival, Inc., at www.peacefilmfest.org. I pledge moral support of legal, peaceful activities and my non-profit gifts offshore, onshore and globally, primarily with philantrophy from my personal investment to help halt all fraud, violence and scams hurting innocent children, women and families so help me God.
Posted by Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Ali (53 comments )
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A question of trust Vs. ability
I don't trust the U.N. (oil for food fiasco, among others) any
more than I trust any other government body from any part of
the world to be in control of the internet. I definately have
objections to countries such as China and Iran having a hand in
it, when they have such horrible records on censoring and
censorship. (If you don't believe that, just ask google. They have
to filter their search results in order to operate in China.)

I also don't believe that any one country should have control,
however it was invented, financed and incubated here. That fact
alone gives the U.S. primary and majority control. I don't want
any country to have the ability to pull the plug. (The recent
Cogent and Level 3 mess comes to mind)

If anything it should transfer to a governing body setup
specifically for that task and consisting of members from each
interested country. I would also like to see this oraganization
consist of engineers and programmers, not politicians.
Otherwise, leave it as it is. The U.S. has not threatend anyones
ability to use the 'net, nor have they "unplugged" anyone from it.
I would even dare to say that you would be hard pressed to find
any other country that would be as benign regarding usage as
we have been. (there may be a few, but not many)

The bottom line is this; if other countries have tied their
financial well being to using a service that we invented, and are
not charging and have never charged to use, why do they think
they deserve to control it? Just because they use it? Nothing is
stopping them from creating their own version. The reason they
don't do so? They can't afford to. Once again America gives
something to the world, and all they can do is ***** about how
it's not enough.

I would support an international body setup for the specific task
of managing the internet only. I do not support U.N. control.
They have demonstrated time and time again that they have
long outlived their usefulness, and they are ineffective. Why
would any country so tied to the 'net for financial well being
want it controlled by an entity that can't even distribute food
efficiently,...
Posted by corelogik (680 comments )
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US haven't threatened?
Here in Europe people know differently and have experienced as such that they created an alternative already! <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://european.nl.orsn.net/about.php" target="_newWindow">http://european.nl.orsn.net/about.php</a>

European as they are they "This project does not represent an isolation from the "American" Internet, however, is supposed to limit the influence and control of the U.S.A substantially" Always in conflict minimizing mode!

Besides this European effort there are more efforts, some of them obsolete, some of them comercial (and contain SPAM), and some of them rather obscure and hard to join!

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root" target="_newWindow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root</a>

gives a rather good overview of the current alternatives for the ICCAN lead root server system!

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.opennic.unrated.net/" target="_newWindow">http://www.opennic.unrated.net/</a>

stands out in this as it is:
1) not commercial
2) nor government or UN controlled
3) international
4) democratic, so dictators and mafia can't control it, however, people from those countries can join and have 1 vote!

Because, saying China is a dangerous non-democratic country, and so is Iran, should not mean that we block the people from those nations to join in international democratic efforts

btw, there are people here who think that Bush was talking about himself when he went to war in Iraq, as besides Iraq, also the USA has:
3) a non-democratic elected president (in 2000, 51.30% of the people voted of which 47.9% voted for Bush and in 2004: 56.70% of the people went to vote of which 50.7% voted for Bush! Highly disputable numbers in Europe)
1) Weapons of Mass Destruction
2) the willingness to use them (as under the new Bush Doctrine: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3126141.stm" target="_newWindow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3126141.stm</a>)
And as such people rank the USA amongst countries like China! I just hope Americans come one day to good common sense and understand that many in this world try to be friends with them, but they make it so darn difficult! As back to the internet issue: it has been questioned: does the USA really think that companies will continue to use their system, to access 300 million Americans, or opt for an international alternative, being able to reach the other 5 or 6 billion people on earth? Because that's what will happen, wheter the USA has invented the internet or not. Besides, it's the European CERN who created th standards for the world wide web or WWW as we know and use it! <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#Origins" target="_newWindow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#Origins</a>
So let's use facts in this discussion, please!
Posted by (6 comments )
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I adjust Mr. Alishtari's comments to the buyout of EDI Secure LLLP
I adjust Mr. Alishtari's comments to the buyout of EDI Secure LLLP


A year ago, January 2006, EDI Secure LLLP was purchased by IDPixie LLC which owns the patent US 6,598,031 B1 granted on July 22, 2003 for APPARATUS AND METHOD FOR ROUTING ENCRYPTED TRANSACTION CARD IDENTIFYING DATA THROUGH A PUBLIC TELEPHONE NETWORK from inventor Jeffrey Ice. So to update EDI Secure LLLP's place in the marketplace, I add the above and below data.

My Pledge

I, Mr. Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Alishtari, pledge my Foundation to halt child slavery activities including his Global Peace Film Festival, Inc., at www.peacefilmfest.org. I pledge moral support of legal, peaceful activities and my non-profit gifts offshore, onshore and globally, primarily with philantrophy from my personal investment to help halt all fraud, violence and scams hurting innocent children, women and families so help me God.
Posted by Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Ali (53 comments )
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NO!!!
It is my personal opinion that the government should have absolutely no input in the matters in relation to Internet evolution...I think that any intervention on their part WILL Pollute the internet......
Posted by (2 comments )
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Are you that Ignorant? Uninformed? STUPID?
THIS IS NOT OVER YOUR ONLINE RIGHTS

This is over ICANN and the US's historic role of managing the internet's DOMAIN NAMES

The US Government STARTED the internet (remember the ARPAnet?) for scientific research and universities. When the internet became an business enterprise the US Created a corporation to handle all of the Domain Name Registrations: ICANN

With a corporation handling this, all of the .coms .nets and .whatevers have been able to register and operate smoothly.

The UN now wants to TAKE ICANN AWAY and be in charge of Domain names!

In my mind, the UN has NO RIGHT to do this. They've never even come up with solutions to things like internet sales taxing, online copywrights, or Internet censorship.

And now they want to take control of the internet

Screw that.

The un will just do another crappy job. Only this time, instead of screwing up a third world country, they'll crash the internet.

Lovely.





and andrew, do your research before you start screaming Bush Bashing statements like an jabbering idiot. You'll only look like an ignorant bastard if you get your political views from MTV. There has already been a story on news.com before, people only got involved here because Bush was involved. Do some research. it helps.
Posted by eviltoaster (31 comments )
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Pollution
Actually, government is the biggest polluters of everything under the sun.
Posted by casper2004 (267 comments )
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Flawed logic
Your monetary examples alone are reason enough never to trust
the Old World with control or even veto power on the internet.
The fact that you can never agree on anything puts your policies
in stalemate and liquifies whatever solution that is finally agreed
upon a decade later.

The common gesture when given a gift, let alone one which has
increased the world's economy on such a large scale, is to say
"Thank you". This is but the latest in a long line of snubs from a
group of countries whose liberty and freedoms were paid for
with American blood and whose economies have been stoked by
American ingenuity.
Posted by cowboy704 (3 comments )
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Yes - Very Flawed
USA economic and foreign policy for years has been specifically designed to HOLD BACK the rest of the world. What rubbish you spout with no backup in fact.

George Kennan, Cold War Planner for the USA in 1948:

"We have 50% of the world's wealth, but only 6.3% of its population. In this situation, our real job in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which permit us to maintain this position of disparity. To do so, we have to dispense with all sentimentality...we should cease thinking about human rights, the raising of living standards and democratisation."
Posted by richto (895 comments )
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It would still be an improvement...
One notch above nothing would be a definate improvement on what we have now. We now have no accountability and no consideration about what the rest of the world wants.

However the UN in fact is remarkably efficient at most things it does, considering how much it is restricted by vested interested of countries like the USA.

I must say I dont often hear about UN troops torturing prisoners, holding prisoners without access to legal council, imprisoning children or using cluster weapons on civilian areas...
Posted by richto (895 comments )
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What planet are you from?!?
&gt;&gt;However the UN in fact is remarkably efficient at most things it does,

RIIGHT. Like the Oil For Food Program. Hooray. Go UN. sheesh...

&gt;&gt;dont often hear about UN troops torturing prisoners, holding prisoners...using cluster weapons...

You must be blind. For crying out loud, man. Do you have any idea what countries make up the UN?!? Are you aware that Iraq under Saddam was a UN member??? He sure was a sweetheart.

Your "Anybody is better than America" attiude is awfully disturbing, especially considering the fact that the domain name system is functioning just fine as is, and you seem to have no idea of the topics you speak.
Posted by David Arbogast (1709 comments )
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oh really? rape isnt an offense?
"I must say I dont often hear about UN troops torturing prisoners, holding prisoners without access to legal council, imprisoning children or using cluster weapons on civilian areas..."

thats funny, but i thought that rape was a rather serious crime in most modern nations...

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42088" target="_newWindow">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42088</a>

its been over a year ago, so you must have forgotten, UN "peace keepers" are raping the people they're suppose to "protect".
Posted by sg (2 comments )
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Erroneous.
The DNS system cannot be owned by its very nature, DNS is a protocol and not a physical property owned by the US.

Furthermore, it would be trivial to set up a non-US controlled DNS system, I estimate it would take less then 4 days to do so, all it requires is setting up DNS servers and changing records. This is trivial and not even very expensive.

Also, I would like to point out to you that actually most of the world' root DNS servers are neither owned, located in nor controlled by US entities.
Posted by (20 comments )
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Internet owned? A laughable notion.
You dont 'own' it anyway and the US is rapidly becoming a minor player as far as the propogation of the Internet goes, China and the EU each seperately already have more Internet users then the US while the US is seeing a decline in actual Internet users those areas are still growing rapidly.

Hold on to your silly notions of owning 'The Internet' if you will but the reality is that you dont actually own anything, the US just controls some of the DNS root servers, replacing those is trivial.
Posted by (20 comments )
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Exactly the point...
.... no one person, company or nation owns the Internet. Any
person, company or nation can set up a root server. There is
nothing for the UN to control, just as there is really no UN to
control whatever it is that needs no control. All we have is a bunch
of squeaks from mindless complainers about how the big bad
mean US is not giving them their proper rights, as if they had any.

get real or get lost
Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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Amazed at the Ignorance
I'm amazed at the level of ignorance that is in this thread. The U.S. owns the Internet? I would suggest that some folks need to re-read their Internet history.

Yes, the Internet was originally engineered by the United States. Nobody can contest that. But, does anybody really believe that anything still exists of the original Arpanet? Maybe in a museum perhaps.

The Internet is a concept of decentralized information sharing. You may own the hardware that assists in the function of the net, but that does not give you title to "own" the Internet. There are many other parts of the world that assist in the function of the Internet.

The Internet could easily function without a single connection from the United States. So, somebody want to tell me again how the U.S. owns the Internet?
Posted by (5 comments )
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LOL
The US government is becoming the Microsoft of Nations...Pathetic.
Posted by SystemsJunky (409 comments )
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Sorta but not exactly.
As I know it,

The Internet was invented by the US military,
The WWW was invented by some guy in Britain.
Control of Top Level Domains is controlled by a US corporations with some ties to the US government.

I'm pretty cynical about the US governement.

However I think/know the the "US Centric" control of the internet (as it is now) is far better then one where less democratic nations have more of a say in control of the internet.

The internet has made so many breakthroughs, and revolutioned the world, in part because of its lack of restriction, control, and censorship (IMHO)

We dont need nations like Brazil trying to ban or censor certain types of content, or China being being able to have more power to block anti china/communist thoughts/people
Posted by Madrone (43 comments )
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Sorta but not exactly at all
The Internet as we know it know has it's origins at the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA)in the early 60's. The then ARPANET was created as a decrentralized network to maintain command and control, plus information exchange during a nuclear attack on the US. ARPA was part of the U.S. Department of Defence, not specifically the military.

The WWW was created by Tim Berners-Lee of CERN, and yes, he is British. I would classify him as more than some guy in Britain.

Control of the top level domains is not by US corporations with ties to the US government. If you did a little research you would find that while there are many TLD servers in the US, there are also top level domain servers all over the world.

I'm not sure what you have against Brazil, but there are many other countries mature enough to handle the responsibility. Your ignorance of the subject is incredible, and with a little effort you could educate yourself before posting nonsensical opinions about your view of the Internet.
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