Hacking your Prius

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For its part, Toyota recognizes that some Prius owners will want to hack their cars, but the company doesn't condone the behavior.

"There are people out there who have hacked into the system," said Bill Kwong, a Toyota spokesman. "The tech is out there for technicians. But we don't encourage consumers to do that."

Speaking about the hack that allows Prius owners to use the navigation system while driving, Kwong added, "It is hazardous. It's like talking on the phone or shaving while you're operating the vehicle."

But to Watson, whose company sells a system that allows use of the navigation system while driving, that's exactly the point.

"It's an odd situation," Watson said, emphasizing that Coastal Electronics thinks the system should only be used by the passenger in a Prius. "You can use the radio (and other equipment while driving). It's an arbitrary thing as to what is safe and what is not."

Pizer is also a fan of the hack that allows American Prius owners to switch their hybrids to all-electric mode while driving locally at low speeds. She hasn't installed the system yet that enables the on-the-fly switchover, but expects to soon.

And she's perplexed as to why the button that automatically performs the switch on European and Japanese Priuses is missing in the U.S.

"There's a blank spot on my dashboard where the button is supposed to go," Pizer said. "I mean, the whole point of getting this kind of vehicle is supposed to be reducing our use of fossil fuels."

The fact that the feature isn't available in the U.S. may have to do with the way the Environmental Protection Agency measures fuel efficiency in the U.S., and that such a dual-power system would upset such measurements, said Coastal Electronics' Watson.

Kwong said Toyota doesn't offer the switch to electric mode because of U.S. laws mandating that it offer a minimum eight-year warranty for the car's power system. Thus, he said, by disabling the switch, the company is able to ensure a longer battery life.

Torrone said that he thinks Prius owners are likely to keep the hybrid car among the most popular vehicles for hacking for the foreseeable future.

"I think that this might be the new hackable car platform, as there's more (and more) information out there" about the Prius' electronic systems, said Torrone. "Some of this is dangerous, but that's OK. So was modding cars in the 1950s. I think it's all the same, there's just more electricity involved now."

[05 Ladybug]

Not like it wouldn't benefit big oil!!??!!

From the article:<br /><br />"The fact that the feature isn't available in the U.S. may have to <br />do with the way the Environmental Protection Agency measures <br />fuel efficiency in the U.S., and that such a dual-power system <br />would upset such measurements, said Coastal Electronics' <br />Watson."<br /><br />From 05 Ladybug:<br /><br />Rather than being affected by the EPA, I rather believe that it is <br />not offered because it might offend Big Oil and sell more hybrid <br />cars. I've learned from friends that back during the Carter <br />administration, when solar credits were offered and interest in <br />solar energy was piquing, that many of the patents were bought <br />up by those in Big Oil so that they could "discourage" solar's <br />growth by not allowing it to happen.<br /><br />The possibility of getting 100 MPH on a Prius? Well, that is a <br />danger to the selling of gasoline and puts a crimp on Big Oil's <br />profits. They have a lot of influence--who is to say that they <br />didn't prevent the switchover to electric power in slow driving? <br />After the events of the last 5 years, I certainly would look for <br />answers within the most oil-friendly administration even.

[Dachi]

Read the next paragraph

I really don't buy your theory that the switch to electrictric button was removed from the car due to some kind of big oil conspiracy.<br /><br />This is just like "that carburetor" that gives cars 200 MPG that big oil companies crushed right?<br /><br />Maybe you should have read the very next sentance in the article (it crushed your conspiracy).<br /><br />"Kwong said Toyota doesn't offer the switch to electric mode because of U.S. laws mandating that it offer a minimum eight-year warranty for the car's power system. Thus, he said, by disabling the switch, the company is able to ensure a longer battery life."<br /><br />In other news: 9/11 was a plot by the Bush administration to get the people to accept a police state.

[zvonkman]

"Kwong said Toyota doesn't offer the switch to electric mode because of U.S. laws mandating that it offer a minimum eight-year warranty for the car's power system. Thus, he said, by disabling the switch, the company is able to ensure a longer battery life."<br /><br />I have a 2008 UK Prius. My model has the EV mode button, and also an eight year warranty for the car's power system. So frankly that excuse doesn't really hold water.

[Steven N]

Not able to use the navigation system while driving???

That 's rediculous... Isn't that the point of navigation system? That it is giving directions while driving?<br /><br />I wonder why they put multiple seats in the car? A bunch of kids in the back of the car can also distract the driver...<br /><br />Only in America...

[RichStevenson]

RE: Not able to use the navigation system while driving???

They're talking about being not able to enter a destination while driving.

[baswwe]

it is so you dimtwitted self doesn't crash into me while doing 50 on the

highway

[lconly]

Traffic Hazard

That's why when in stop-and-go traffic you see all of the Prius owners taking a large amount of time to start moving again.<br /><br />In my opinion, Toyota has created quite a hazard by locking out navigation features while driving over 5mph.

[davewhite5]

I agree its ridiculous. I have a Garmin and I can operate it while I'm driving so why are Prius owners deprived? At the very least why don't they activate it if there is someone sitting in the passenger seat. The car can detect whether someone is in the passenger seat for the airbag so why not use this to allow the passenger to operate the navigation system?

[juchestyle]

The "0,1 Revolution" Continues

I posted awhile ago that the internet is putting power back into average peoples hands. The big company has long been taking away our individual rights because the average person can't compete against lobbyiest, corrupt bribe taking officials, and big corporations.<br /><br />Enter the "0,1 Revolution"<br /><br />The ability to manipulate software is allowing the people to have the rights they desearve. Changing factory defaults is just another way "We the People," can choose our own freedoms.<br /><br />Respectfully,<br />Matthew

[jabbotts]

Testify!

Testify! Sing that opensource gospel!<br /><br />Serously, every day I see a new example of big business trying to restrict the customer (whom they claim to serve) in a new and inovative way that premotes gross profit. I'd go through the list but this would be a really long comment and would take away from the simplicity of the original statement.

[bigduke]

GPS in car

Since we got lower end machine, we depend on Garmin hand helds. Never, ever is it used by driver. With a second person at the GPS it is fine. With a pair of RINO's we can even find each other in WAL-MART on the intercom mode. Cells don't inside the emporium

[raitchison]

Can't "modify" the navigation system

As Steven already mentioned the navigation system still operates while driving but you can't enter new destinations/search while driving. Essentially they expect you to program your destination and then start your trip, if you change your trip you are expected to pull over and park to do so.<br /><br />In reality it would be much more dangerous to program your navigation system while driving compared to operating the radio or even making a cell phone call but the ludicrous thing is that even your passenger can't operate the system while driving. They could work around this by using the already present passenger seat sensor (used for the airbag) to activate/deactivate the controls if they wanted to.

[cohaver]

This could lead to open source hybrids

How does a company get ahead of it rival by using hackers and open source it? <br />A Prius Hybrid could get advancement in efficiency and get leap on it competition.<br />100 Engineers can?t compete against 10,000 freelance engineers college students and independent technicians. This kind of R&#38;D could cost billions of Dollars. Software companies hate and love them for making their software better. In end the world winning on that subject.

[Stan Kee]

At What Point

Will DMCA and other repressive laws be used to restrict car owners.

[X-mass]

prius doesn't sell much in europe

In europe we use diesals, ok we will probably see more hybrid diesals in the future as all it requires is a bit bigger starter motor and a bit bigger battery. But the principle reason prius doesnt sell in europe is the economy in a diesal is typically better than a prius, for example a VW lupo will do 70mpg

Prius Bluetooth hack needed

I think there's a need for a simple bluetooth hack to add bluetooth to the standard Prius easily.<br /><br />Jim Forbes

[Peter8105]

Power off/on switch

The reason for not being able to switch to full battery operation is obvious. Our Government has not been able to figure out a way of TAXING the milage driven while in electric mode. It is truly a shame that we as consumers care more about the environment than our representitives.

[grantbwilson]

Sequences are not a hack.

The story talks about turning the 'beep' off when reversing, and the key on/off sequnces to do so.<br /><br />Thats not a hack. Thats the way to do it.<br /><br />I have a Ford Freestar (canada) van that I use for work. I'm constantly in and out of the van and opening all the doors all day. The van automatically locks all the doors when you start driving. A quick look through the index of my manual tells me a simple 4 or 5 step sequence involving the ignition, and the power lock button. When done, the horn honks twice to confirm.<br /><br />In that regard... I've 'hacked' a ford freestar...<br /><br />Read the manual.

[grantbwilson]

Sequences are not a hack.

The story talks about turning the 'beep' off when reversing, and the key on/off sequnces to do so.<br /><br />Thats not a hack. Thats the way to do it.<br /><br />I have a Ford Freestar (canada) van that I use for work. I'm constantly in and out of the van and opening all the doors all day. The van automatically locks all the doors when you start driving. A quick look through the index of my manual tells me a simple 4 or 5 step sequence involving the ignition, and the power lock button. When done, the horn honks twice to confirm, and the doors no longer lock automatically.<br /><br />In that regard... I've 'hacked' a ford freestar...<br /><br />Read the manual.

[germanfive]

navigadget guide to hack prius navigation

Navigadget has some info on hacking your toyota prius navigation system:<br /><br /><a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2006/05/24/hack-your-toyota-prius-gps-navigation-system/" target="_newWindow">http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2006/05/24/hack-your-toyota-prius-gps-navigation-system/</a>

[joevitale]

OK <br />So how do I get rid of the anoying "beep" on my 2009 prius??